Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Titled

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FeD.nL said:
Sounds like a billion dollar movie.
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Batman alone is a billion dollar franchise. MoS wasn't hugely popular but i think a good sequel could have gone close. This just doesn't seem like a necessary move (and if it fails fucks over more than one franchise).

On a personal level it just annoys me because i liked MoS and wanted a sequel. That plus i want more standalone batman movies.
 
If anything the marvel films are more fan films than the DC ones, at least those seem like the people involved know about the characters they are making movies about.
 
xtrasauce said:
Batman and Superman are two of the most iconic and recognizable characters in the history of fiction; it's pathetic that Warner Bros doesn't trust people to get what the movie is without that horribly clunky title.
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Wanna know what the funny thing is? There were people on this board that hated/disliked the "World's Finest" name because of that reason - the audience wouldn't know who the fuck the World's Finest were.
 
Amentallica said:
Dawn of Justice... So either Batman or Superman is a villain?
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There will be a moment 2/3 of the way into the movie where Bat and Supes realise they've been fighting the wrong person the whole time (aka each other) and then team up to beat the real bad guy (luthor?) destroying 40 blocks of gotham city in the process.
 
Future Foundation said:
Wanna know what the funny thing is? There were people on this board that hated/disliked the "World's Finest" name because of that reason - the audience wouldn't know who the fuck the World's Finest were.
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lol...

yeah i suppose WB want to target the audience that does NOT know all that much about Comic lore since those people were already gonna watch the movie anyways!
 
This needs cameos (however subtle) from Justice League members to set up a future expanded universe of movies, and of course, the "dawn" of the Justice League.
 
TitusGroan said:
My sarcasm meter is clearly broken.

MoS was great. Fuck what the haters say.
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It could have been great if

1) Pa Kent did any little thing to remotely hint at guiding clark to being a hero. That his characters entire point for being part of the superman story but they failed. Something as simple as instead of tellin clark that maybe he should have let those bus kids die, instead tell him that he needs to be more careful because if he gets found out and caught he wont be able to save anyone.

2) That last battle should have been shorter and not in the middle of the city. You had supes vs world engine scenes, army vs spaceship scenes and the supes v zod. That should have been all the same thing, get rid of the world engine and just make their ship the terraformin device. Supes fightin side by side with the military clearing a path through the kryptonians so the jets and stuff can take out the ship or something. Set it at the port just of the city, you can still have some buildings blown up and maybe do some cool shit with docked boats instead of makin it look like Superman is partially to blame for the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people (even if thats not the case thats what it looked like)
 
I don't get the "It's not a Superman movie" stuff. Besides Bats, Alfred, and WW, the cast is all Superman characters. We don't know anything about the story - a fact that I think alludes most people when talking about this movie - but that fact combined with the fact that it's a followup to Man of Steel suggests there will probably be a pretty heavy focus on Superman.

SomewhatGroovy said:
Avengers made a lot of $$$.

Fox want to make same amount by throwing a bunch of Xmen characters together too $$$
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You mean....making the same X-Men movies they've always made?

I know we're all enamored with the idea of Marvel Studios being this cool kid rebel disrupting the Hollywood status quo with his perfectly adequate movies and forcing everyone to weep silently as they try to catch up, but are we really going to suggest that an X-Men movie has a ton of characters because Fox wants That Avengers Money™ and not because it's a fucking X-Men movie?

Unless you're just trolling, in which case, I fell for it and kudos to you sir.
 
pieatorium said:
There will be a moment 2/3 of the way into the movie where Bat and Supes realise they've been fighting the wrong person the whole time (aka each other) and then team up to beat the real bad guy (luthor?) destroying 40 blocks of gotham city in the process.
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What I am imagining or hoping would be something like Bruce and Lex know each other through their business side of lives and Lex tricks Bruce into thinking Superman is a threat to the world so Bruce with his money and as Batman works to combat Superman. Cue two battles at least one where Superman beats the shit out of Batman and the next where Batman gets the upper hand.

2/3 of the way into the movie they realize they are on the same side (JUSTICE!) and they really need to fight Lex and whatever he has cooked up.

End of movie leads into whatever master plan Lex has which has to be dealt with by the Justice League.

Arkos said:
Wow, that is astonishingly bad. Luckily I guess I don't need to bother getting my hopes up. I'll expect something dumb and marginally entertaining out of Redbox (like MoS)
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Oh so if the title was something you thought was cool you would have been looking forward to the movie? But because the title is clunky you don't need to get your hopes up?

I guess I shouldn't be shocked anymore but still really people? You get hyped or depressed about a movie based on a title?
 
All we know is that Lex is the Villain
Batman is older
Batman doesn't really trust/like Superman
Wonder Woman shows up at some point.

That's literally all we know of this story.
 
You ever have a hunch that even though the signs point towards "this movie won't be good", the movie will ACTUALLY be good? No idea why but I'm on the hype train for this. It's literally the exact opposite feeling I have for Jurassic World.
 
Assuming they're still heavily influenced by the Dark Knight Returns,
It's possible that an inexperienced Superman may be led by the government or Lex to stopping Batman, it would be similar to what happened in the DKR comic
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Batman being hostile while Bruce Wayne is friendly to Lex also would make for an interesting dynamic between the two.
 
EekTheKat said:
Assuming they're still heavily influenced by the Dark Knight Returns,
It's possible that an inexperienced Superman may be led by the government or Lex to stopping Batman, it would be similar to what happened in the DKR comic
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Batman being hostile while Bruce Wayne is friendly to Lex also would make for an interesting dynamic between the two.
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Based on the events of Man of Steel, if nothing else it would be Lex working with the military to stop Superman. And Batman probably trying to stop him in his own ways

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Superman 1 type stuff in here with Lex and/or Bruce testing Superman's limits to see what his weaknesses are...

Because he has no established ones so far
 
BumRush said:
You ever have a hunch that even though the signs point towards "this movie won't be good", the movie will ACTUALLY be good?
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All you gotta do is look over at what's happening with X-Men: Days of Future Past to get a decent idea how much "conventional wisdom" is worth. :)
 
Penguin said:
Based on the events of Man of Steel, if nothing else it would be Lex working with the military to stop Superman. And Batman probably trying to stop him in his own ways

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Superman 1 type stuff in here with Lex and/or Bruce testing Superman's limits to see what his weaknesses are...

Because he has no established ones so far
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His biggest weakness is that he can't kill peop....wait
 
effzee said:
It was never really announced as MOS 2 was it?

It was clear after MoS they wanted to move along towards JL so this is the next phase of that move. Not necessarily a MoS 2 but Batman and Superman.

Also those worrying that this makes Batman the main character because they just revealed him and his car...you do realize its because this is a new Batman. The Nolan-Bale Batman is gone so they sort of have to re-introduce him. Superman is played by the same actor and at most will have minor touch ups on his suit.

I still can't believe people crying so much over a title. Yes Batman will fight Superman in the movie. We all know this is how it will at least start off and by the end or even in the middle they will join forces. Doesn't Batman is automatically the main character but the marketing might focus more on him because its Batman and he is being re-introduced.

Whether the movie sucks or not won't be decided by the title. Good news is Snyder's visuals are awesome and the re-write was done by a much better writer than Goyer. Let's at least see them together in footage.
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I remember even Snyder said this was a Superman movie with Batman in it, it was probably in the Bluray special with Kevin Smith if my memory doesn't fail me.

If Im wrong then I dreamed of it, but I was always thinking this was going to be a MoS2 film featuring Batman too.

That's why my little sadness in seeing that there is way more attention to Batman in what suposed to be a Superman movie.
 
Yeah, that "v" is super dumb. It's clear they wanted to avoid the full "vs" so as to not give the false impression that Batman and Superman would be duking it out. They could have simply called it "Dawn of Justice". There's no way people would miss that it's a DC film; marketing for it will be everywhere.
 
farisr said:
This is definitely going to be retitled.
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When has that ever happened? Especially after a big-ass press release and logo reveal?

(I guess there was Revenge of the Jedi becoming Return of the Jedi after some initial teasers & posters)

But I doubt we're getting a new title with this.
 
What has been confirmed:

David Goyer has ruined the script
Chris Terrio won't be doing anything.
Gal Gadot is too thin.
Ben Affleck is too fat.
Snyder looks great on a moped.

My source is LatinoReview
 
BobbyRoberts said:
When has that ever happened? Especially after a big-ass press release and logo reveal?

(I guess there was Revenge of the Jedi becoming Return of the Jedi after some initial teasers & posters)

But I doubt we're getting a new title with this.
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All the time? The third Hobbit movie just got renamed like a month ago.
 
neorej said:
Opening shot of the movie:

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You guys are so funny.
 
Blader said:
All the time? The third Hobbit movie just got renamed like a month ago.
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Because of backlash from internet fanboys? The same people that tried to start an e-petition to have Ben Affleck removed from the movie?

And one or two instances isn't "All the time" when hundreds of movies are released every year. It's much more likely that, like many other movies, people will bitch about the name when it's announced and that fury will slowly but surely subside as the movie gets closer to release and most people just get used to it.
 
Blader said:
All the time? The third Hobbit movie just got renamed like a month ago.
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The third Hobbit movie wasn't actually officially NAMED until that release, though, wasn't it? People were just rolling with it being called "There and Back Again" based on what it was called before they added a third movie to the schedule, but there was never an official name for the third flick until they announced it, I believe.

I'm sure there's a couple instances I'm not thinking of, you're right - but usually, once marketing material starts getting rolled out (and the press releases kick that off, usually) the titles don't change.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Because of backlash from internet fanboys? The same people that tried to start an e-petition to have Ben Affleck removed from the movie?

And one or two instances isn't "All the time" when hundreds of movies are released every year. It's much more likely that, like many other movies, people will bitch about the name when it's announced and that fury will slowly but surely subside as the movie gets closer to release and most people just get used to it.
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I'm not saying they'll change it particularly because of internet backlash, or that they'll change it at all. Just that a movie changing titles from announcement to release is hardly unprecedented.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
All we know is that Lex is the Villain
Batman is older
Batman doesn't really trust/like Superman
Wonder Woman shows up at some point.

That's literally all we know of this story.
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Yeah but I think Lex will be behind the scenes a lot. Batman will definitely be Supes main antagonist for a good 2/3 of the movie, then team up in the last act and shake hands in the final shot. Of course Bats will never trust Supes even after shaking hands, but more like a cease-fire.
 
Raptor said:
I remember even Snyder said this was a Superman movie with Batman in it, it was probably in the Bluray special with Kevin Smith if my memory doesn't fail me.

If Im wrong then I dreamed of it, but I was always thinking this was going to be a MoS2 film featuring Batman too.

That's why my little sadness in seeing that there is way more attention to Batman in what supposed to be a Superman movie.
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Well like I said Batman is getting a new look, new actor, new suit, and new car.

Of course he is being re-introduced first and being highlighted. Also yes at this point of time he is the more popular and bankable character. So he might not be the whole movie, he might even be only 30-40% of the movie but the sell and appeal here is Batman & or VS Superman and since we already know and have seen this new Superman, Batman gets the front seat for promotion.
 
Batman v Superman
Justice

Anyone else immediately think about a court case? Guarantee Superman is on trial or something because of his actions in the first movie.
 
people still crying about the title? Batman v Superman is gonna rake in the billions with that name, deal with it.
 
flkraven said:
Batman v Superman
Justice

Anyone else immediately think about a court case? Guarantee Superman is on trial or something because of his actions in the first movie.
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what actions? saving everyone?

the world engine is what did most of that damage. the rest was zod.
 
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