Batman v Superman - New Clip

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Let's not forget Michael Wilkinson for his incredible costume designs.

Absolutely nailed it out of the park with the first 4, I have no idea how he's going to keep that high bar when Flash, Cyborg and Green Lantern. (please nail Flash and GL)
 
Gonna be as uneven as MoS I reckon judging by footage shown so far. I guess spectacle and action will make it successful like MoS I doubt this is going to trouble the ranks of comic book films that are also great films.
 
I'm honestly not trying to troll, but I'm surprised by how bad this looks. The dialogue, the delivery...everything feels so awkward.
 
I'm digging it. I've seen so many elseworlds variations of these guys that I can be cool with most small changes to character.

Bat's voice is an interesting take too.
 
Gonna be as uneven as MoS I reckon judging by footage shown so far. I guess spectacle and action will make it successful like MoS I doubt this is going to trouble the ranks of comic book films that are also great films.

To be fair, that's a very tiny list... in my head anyhow.

and most of them don't involve capes
 
Absolutely nailed it out of the park with the first 4, I have no idea how he's going to keep that high bar when Flash, Cyborg and Green Lantern. (please nail Flash and GL)

Curious how he'll handle Shazam and Black Adam if they do them. I think a robed look would work well. I liked elements of Regime Black Adam, though it's missing the iconic lightning bolt on the chest.
 
Maybe DC characters are supposed to look disengaged from the rest of the populace and uncomfortable due to their godly powers....

Fuck I don't know...looks bad.
 
Two things have immensely improved my opinion of the clip.

1. The idea that Superman might just be shit at intimidating people. Cavill goes from not being able to act to portraying the kind of timidity I'd expect of a good natured guy trying to tell Batman what to do.

2. And this is very likely a spoiler. Not of a major event but of the potential immediate context for the meeting in the clip (like what might have happened in the previous scene). Don't click if you don't want to know, and it's speculation so it could be wrong. I'll keep it as vague as possible, anyway.
That it isn't Batman going after Superman and crashing his car into him, but Superman deciding he wants Batman to stop fighting crime and intercepting the Batmobile.
It makes so much more sense than what I assumed the reason for the meeting in the clip to be. It's a neat way of portraying Superman, and Batman's "oh, we're going to throw down when I'm ready" attitude seems appropriate.
 
Two things have immensely improved my opinion of the clip.

1. The idea that Superman might just be shit at intimidating people. Cavill goes from not being able to act to portraying the kind of timidity I'd expect of a good natured guy trying to tell Batman what to do.

2. And this is very likely a spoiler. Not of a major event but of the potential immediate context for the meeting in the clip (like what might have happened in the previous scene). Don't click if you don't want to know, and it's speculation so it could be wrong. I'll keep it as vague as possible, anyway.
That it isn't Batman going after Superman and crashing his car into him, but Superman deciding he wants Batman to stop fighting crime and intercepting the Batmobile.
It makes so much more sense than what I assumed the reason for the meeting in the clip to be. It's a neat way of portraying Superman, and Batman's "oh, we're going to throw down when I'm ready" attitude seems appropriate.

On point two... there seems to be two popular theories/rumors out there (before the clip)

The first is what you said
The second is
Bruce is actually coming back from breaking into LexCorp and Superman sees the Bat in Metropolis and springs into action.
 
Two things have immensely improved my opinion of the clip.

1. The idea that Superman might just be shit at intimidating people. Cavill goes from not being able to act to portraying the kind of timidity I'd expect of a good natured guy trying to tell Batman what to do.

2. And this is very likely a spoiler. Not of a major event but of the potential immediate context for the meeting in the clip (like what might have happened in the previous scene). Don't click if you don't want to know, and it's speculation so it could be wrong. I'll keep it as vague as possible, anyway.
That it isn't Batman going after Superman and crashing his car into him, but Superman deciding he wants Batman to stop fighting crime and intercepting the Batmobile.
It makes so much more sense than what I assumed the reason for the meeting in the clip to be. It's a neat way of portraying Superman, and Batman's "oh, we're going to throw down when I'm ready" attitude seems appropriate.

Judging by the last trailer Batman is turning a corner and sees superman and tries to swerve out of the way. He doesn't run head on into Superman. I imagine the kick was more beneficial than just letting him crash into him because Clark would probably demolish the car if he let it hit him.
 
Man, that clip was extremely cringy. Cavill's delivery is really void too. Hoping that in context this scene works way better (even if I doubt it.)
 
Superman isn't human. He is an alien. He carries himself how he percieves humans to be. Weak and insecure. Must I post Bill's observation from Kill Bill about the subject? "Consider this mercy."? No.....

Yeah except that he was all but born on earth. As in he literally came to earth as a baby and was Clark Kent for a lot longer than he was Superman. I'm not unconvinced that Superman is just a big wuss.
 
I'm in like, awe at how bad this looks. The first few trailers were cool, but I was hopeful that Snyder learned from his mistakes made in MoS and that this would be all the better for it. Especially with Affleck at the helm, allegedly helping out with the script. Am I right about that? But... shit. Cavil looks like he doesn't give a shit at all in that clip. Batman looks like... an egg. The dialogue is just silly and over the top, like a child wrote it.

I'd understand if they were going towards something like Marvel, but they're trying to build a "mature" audience with these movies, am I right? "No jokes," all that crap. If the delivery of so many lines comes across as campy in a Marvel movie, whatever. They're silly, fun romps. However, that's not what DC seem to be going for, and if the movie has enough scenes with such bad delivery it's not even going to be fun, it'll just be bad.
 
Okay. This feels like a fan film from the early 2000s that was given a Hollywood budget. I cannot believe how worse this keeps continuing to look.
 
They never said "no jokes". That was an unsubstantiated rumor.
Regardless, they're going for darker vibes than Marvel, that's irrefutable. The movie having such cheesy lines and all that is going to throw off the tone and make it come across as try-hard and silly instead of... whatever other vibe they were going for.

Look, I really, really wanna like this. The Dark Knight was one of my favorite movies of all time. I just recently read TDKR and loved it. I love Batman. This just doesn't look great to me. :(
 
Regardless, they're going for darker vibes than Marvel, that's irrefutable. The movie having such cheesy lines and all that is going to throw off the tone and make it come across as try-hard and silly instead of... whatever other vibe they were going for.

Look, I really, really wanna like this. The Dark Knight was one of my favorite movies of all time. I just recently read TDKR and loved it. I love Batman. This just doesn't look great to me. :(

Well, tbf we seem to get a better Batman in this movie so it has that going for it. And Zimmer is doing the score. Snyder is amazing at action scenes and Larry Fong is back. So there is that to look forward to. Surely some things that you might end up liking.
 
Okay. This feels like a fan film from the early 2000s that was given a Hollywood budget.

You got all that from a 90 second clip?

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Jokes are good, just not cheesy ones.
Dark is good, just not too dark.
Serious is good, just not too serious.

Got it now?

This Batman is branding fools and the Joker is probably going to torture Harley. DC doesn't fuck around.
 
Cavil is fine.
Batman looks horrendous in that shot though. Please hide the mask. He should always be in armor. My boy Snyder going out of his way to make superman look like a boss, and make batman look like a mark.
 
Regardless, they're going for darker vibes than Marvel, that's irrefutable. The movie having such cheesy lines and all that is going to throw off the tone and make it come across as try-hard and silly instead of... whatever other vibe they were going for.

Look, I really, really wanna like this. The Dark Knight was one of my favorite movies of all time. I just recently read TDKR and loved it. I love Batman. This just doesn't look great to me. :(

It's possible just because Batman looks bad. That's something I've noticed recently. The idea of Superman punking Batman out doesn't quite hit with people. Batman's been punking Superman out for decades so it feels odd.
 
Snyder is a self proclaimed supes fan. He will continue to make batman look like a punk.
And I'm happy with it.
 
Jokes are good, just not cheesy ones.
Dark is good, just not too dark.
Serious is good, just not too serious.

Got it now?

Nope

Why has "Cheesy" become "bad" for people. Cheesy jokes are awesome if done well.

Same with darkness. And darkness combined with cheese, if done well is a great combination.

I think the marketing has been a bit of a mess, but the underlying content for the film still looks solid
 
Okay. This feels like a fan film from the early 2000s that was given a Hollywood budget. I cannot believe how worse this keeps continuing to look.

I feel like at its heart that's what it'll probably be, for better or worse. And I'm not criticizing Zack Snyder for it; it's hard to imagine what it must be like getting to make the Batman v Superman film, especially when you are a fan of comics (or at least The Dark Knight Returns). But it does have that feel where you can almost imagine Zack Snyder acting out this scene with toys - 'then what if Superman was like 'consider it mercy' and boom flew up into the sky'.

It seems to have solid writing behind it, so whilst it might visually look like a big-budget fan film it could also be a good movie. I'm a fan of the narrative choices we know they've made so far, like tying Man of Steel's ending into BvS, so it could be a really great film. I hope Snyder pulls it off because he's jumping directly from this to Justice League Part 1, and I can't imagine that being good if BvS isn't.
 
Didn't you hear mama Kent? He doesn't owe this world a thing! Next he's going to the UN to laser eye all the dictators.

This Superman is the ultimate troll. Owh, there is a flood? Too bad, let me just stay up here and watch you drown. *moustache twirling Superman laughing like a maniac*
 
Nope

Why has "Cheesy" become "bad" for people. Cheesy jokes are awesome if done well.

Same with darkness. And darkness combined with cheese, if done well is a great combination.

I think the marketing has been a bit of a mess, but the underlying content for the film still looks solid

I'm really unsure of Superman in this, like despite people's gripes in here with the voice and suit I'm sure he's gonna end up okay.

Superman still looks like he's going to be a distant angry jerk, we really need to get into his head.
 
Nope

Why has "Cheesy" become "bad" for people. Cheesy jokes are awesome if done well.

Same with darkness. And darkness combined with cheese, if done well is a great combination.

I think the marketing has been a bit of a mess, but the underlying content for the film still looks solid
Because Snyder sucks, Cavill can't act, and Affleck is overweight. Got it now?
 
Regardless, they're going for darker vibes than Marvel, that's irrefutable. The movie having such cheesy lines and all that is going to throw off the tone and make it come across as try-hard and silly instead of... whatever other vibe they were going for.

Look, I really, really wanna like this. The Dark Knight was one of my favorite movies of all time. I just recently read TDKR and loved it. I love Batman. This just doesn't look great to me. :(

The context is important. There's nothing wrong with an angry Supes if the situation calls for it. If you really, really want to like this, then give it the benefit of the doubt.
 
They should stop trying to save face from blowing their load too early with the last trailer by releasing shit like this and doing damage control interviews. Doesn't help their cause.
 
They should stop trying to save face from blowing their load too early with the last trailer by releasing shit like this and doing damage control interviews. Doesn't help their cause.

Lmao What kind of mentality is this? Were they supposed to not release commercials to promote the movie? Were they supposed be in interviews and say, "Yea, we have no idea what the hell we are doing. Please excuse our terrible handling of things. Don't even bother with the movie."
 
Isn't it a bit odd that the Batmobile seems to be in such catastrophic failure after just bumping into the side of a building?
 
Lmao What kind of mentality is this? Were they supposed to not release commercials to promote the movie? Were they supposed be in interviews and say, "Yea, we have no idea what the hell we are doing. Please excuse our terrible handling of things. Don't even bother with the movie."
They should of just said, "This is Mercy"
 
Lmao What kind of mentality is this? Were they supposed to not release commercials to promote the movie? Were they supposed be in interviews and say, "Yea, we have no idea what the hell we are doing. Please excuse our terrible handling of things. Don't even bother with the movie."

Really, the only winning play is to cancel the movie. Hell, the whole 'verse. Dissolve DC, sell the decent characters (so just Batman) to Marvel.
 
The context is important. There's nothing wrong with an angry Supes if the situation calls for it. If you really, really want to like this, then give it the benefit of the doubt.
Never said I didn't like Superman being mad or aggressive; that's what I was expecting from the movie! They're fighting after-all. It's just that the delivery of the line comes across as silly, not menacing.
 
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