Batman v Superman - New Official Trailer

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Here's some thoughts:

Ben honestly looks and sounds amazing as Bruce Wayne / Batman.
"It's time you learn what it takes to be a man" is a great, great line.

Here's a potential spoiler / speculation about Jason Todd:
I think Jared Leto's Joker is actually Jason Todd.
 
Doomsday looks terrible and this trailer really gave too much away. Also seems like aquaman and wonder woman will be shoehorned in.
 
Not quite feeling it. Everything seems too basic, Zach Snyder's lack of imagination is kind of showing here. The only good part was Luthor's response to being called a psychopath, it sounded like such a Lex thing to say even if I think Rosenberg wasn't the right actor for the character.

esmith08734 said:
Here's some thoughts:

Here's a potential spoiler / speculation about Jason Todd:
I think Jared Leto's Joker is actually Jason Todd.
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Ugh.
 
esmith08734 said:
Here's some thoughts:

Ben honestly looks and sounds amazing as Bruce Wayne / Batman.
"It's time you learn what it takes to be a man" is a great, great line.

Here's a potential spoiler / speculation about Jason Todd:
I think Jared Leto's Joker is actually Jason Todd.
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Why has that godawful theory continually shown up?
 
hank_tree said:
Batman will skulk off to Lexcorp to get something to weaken Doomsday. Wonder Woman will restrain him and Superman will deal the final blow.
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They "beat" him and throw him into the sea, where he is shown to open his eyes again. Cue to after credit scene where Aquaman drags the now again dead creature on land and impales it so it stays dead, then looking around to find whoever threw that shit into his kingdom.
 
What big comprehensive EVENT ala Infinity Wars could The Justice League lead into?


The Blackest Night? can they even do that without the lantern corps?
 
Kenzodielocke said:
Can we discuss the fact that Snyder hasn't tweeted this out nor said anything about it ?

It kinda feels like he isn't very happy about this and WB is handling this 100 % from now on for whatever reason.
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It could be due to him preparing to shoot JL (I think it starts in January).

The more I think about it, the more I believe the Doomsday fight will show up somewhere in act 2 as a way to depower/injure Superman (ala the nuke in TDKR) and allow Lex to mind control him or capture Louis. The final act will contain armored Batman vs Superman before they take down Lex. If they have the main heroes fight before they take on Doomsday, they basically just copied the main beats from Avengers and WB has said they are doing things differently than the Marvel movies.
 
Alienous said:
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Reddit's Brentpierce0 was way ahead of you.
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Woah, he added smoke to hide Travolta's missing feet.
 
WhiteWolf said:
It could be due to him preparing to shoot JL (I think it starts in January).

The more I think about it, the more I believe the Doomsday fight will show up somewhere in act 2 as a way to depower/injure Superman (ala the nuke in TDKR) and allow Lex to mind control him or capture Louis. The final act will contain armored Batman vs Superman before they take down Lex. If they have the main heroes fight before they take on Doomsday, they basically just copied the main beats from Avengers and WB has said they are doing things differently than the Marvel movies.
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You're crazy. Doomsday is Act 3. Wonder Woman isn't gonna pop up in Act 2 and then just wait around while Batman and Superman go at it.
 
WhiteWolf said:
It could be due to him preparing to shoot JL (I think it starts in January).

The more I think about it, the more I believe the Doomsday fight will show up somewhere in act 2 as a way to depower/injure Superman (ala the nuke in TDKR) and allow Lex to mind control him or capture Louis. The final act will contain armored Batman vs Superman before they take down Lex. If they have the main heroes fight before they take on Doomsday, they basically just copied the main beats from Avengers and WB has said they are doing things differently than the Marvel movies.
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Well if you really want to know...
nope. Doomsday is act 3. Batman vs. Superman comes first, trinity vs. Doomsday is the climax.
 
hank_tree said:
You're crazy. Doomsday is Act 3. Wonder Woman isn't gonna pop up in Act 2 and then just wait around while Batman and Superman go at it.
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Could be something that distracts her like how the world engine in MoS sent Superman across the world. Lex is going to be manipulating everyone in this movie.

I'm not saying I'm right or that I have any sources, just trying to think about this a little differently.
 
WhiteWolf said:
Could be something that distracts her like how the world engine in MoS sent Superman across the world. Lex is going to be manipulating everyone in this movie.

I'm not saying I'm right or that I have any sources, just trying to think about this a little differently.
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It just seems so unlikely. I can't see how it would work pacing wise. The whole movie is building up to the Justice League so it makes sense for the final act to be everyone putting aside their differences and coming together.
 
neorej said:
The main difference between Bats vs Supes and Avengers isthat Avengers was the product of multiple movies building up towards a team assembled by Nick Fury for the sole purpose of having a weapon to strike if something otherworldly would strike us.
None of the trailers showed how they ultimately set their differences aside and fought as a team. That trigger was kept a secret until you saw the actual movie (or an asshole friend told you about it).

Maybe, JUSTmaybe, Snyder is pulling a fast one on us and Doomsday isn't what brings the Trinity together, but given his reputation, it's a pretty safe bet it is. Which is a shame, but seeing that movie, and the fight between Superman and Batman escalates further and further, and then BOOM DOOMSDAY BABY! would make the room lose it's collective mind. Now, it's looking like that scene where Hulk saves Tony; 'owh yeah, I saw this in the trailer, was pretty awesome.'.
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Considering the scene in the original trailer of Batman and Superman standing face to face, and Batman in his regular outfit during the Doomsday fight, I think it's very likely that they resolve their differences before Doomsday appears
 
Triggerhappytel said:
Not sure how I feel about this trailer. Watched it a few times over the last few days, and I feel like tonally it's all over the place, Doomsday is a very boring villain, and they've essentially solved the conflict they've been building up between Bats and Supes by showing that they'll team up to fight Doomsday which ruins the point of the other trailers where the conflict between these two was the focus.

But I am interested to see them team up on screen, and especially to get a proper look at Wonder Woman. She looks badass in this trailer, although it's a shame she doesn't get any lines.

Not convinced by the casting of Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor at all, but I'm willing to give him a chance.
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Bolded exactly. I know they wont kill each other but this trailer pulled weight from that situation.

Edit. I fear that here happens same that happened with Saruman in last Hobbit movie. In trailer he says "leave Sauron to me" and you get idea that damn we gonna see Saruman kick Sauron back to Mordor. But it didn't happen. Now I wait for Batman to show Superman "what it takes to be a man" and fear that it will be just empty threat.
 
hank_tree said:
It just seems so unlikely. I can't see how it would work pacing wise. The whole movie is building up to the Justice League so it makes sense for the final act to be everyone putting aside their differences and coming together.
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Another way to bring them together is to have Batman and Wonder Woman save Superman while he is at his most vulnerable (being controlled/ manipulated). Lex is the main villain and beating him should be what brings the team together.

Blader said:
Well if you really want to know...
nope. Doomsday is act 3. Batman vs. Superman comes first, trinity vs. Doomsday is the climax.
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I guess this doesn't happen. Did the script leak or do you have inside info?
 
flintstryker said:
Are people here surprised that Doomsday is in the movie or are you just upset that they showed him? Because I kinda just had it as a given that there would be a bigger threat, the only think I didn't like was his design, looks generic as fuck
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I'm upset he's in the movie at all. Honestly I'm miffed that Wonder Woman, Cyborg, and Aquaman are in it too. I feel like they are just throwing a ton of stuff into this one movie in an attempt to "catch up" to Marvel, when I'd much rather they simply made a good movie of their own and not try to play the Marvel game.

Nolan did a good job with the Batman movies where he didn't try to include everything and the kitchen sink, he focused on a few characters and developed them thoroughly while writing a good script around them to make them into good characters. That takes screen time and some spacing. You can't accomplish that with a crowded cast and characters who just appear in the nick of time because marketing says they have to.

What I was really hoping for with BvsS was a Superman sequel that also featured Batman. A movie that fleshed out Clark Kent in the Daily Planet, a movie that introduced Lex as a serious and powerful (read: not comedy relief) foil to Superman. A Lex who could challenge BOTH Superman and Batman while maintaining some degree of safety behind the shield of the law and justice that the heroes serve and protect. I don't know, I guess I wanted something more like The World's Finest cartoon movie mixed with some repercussions from the Man of Steel movie. But there looks to be just as much wanton destruction, darkness, and fire in BvsS as there was at the end of MoS.



It just doesn't look very good to me at this point. Hopefully it was just a terribly bad trailer and the movie itself turns out much better.
 
Feel like that sheild moment with WW would have been cool to see in the theater.

Yeah, I'm not super feeling it either. I just don't like Cavill as Suoerman. Feel like he's just devoid of any real personality.
 
I don't get why people are getting so upset about Doomsday. "him showing up resolves the conflict of the premise of the movie in the trailer" no it doesn't actually. For all we know Doomsday could be the last half hour and the other 2 hours is still the central conflict of Batman and Superman. How the fuck can you say it spoils or solves the conflict if you haven't even seen the fucking movie
 
StaticJam said:
I don't get why people are getting so upset about Doomsday. "him showing up resolves the conflict of the premise of the movie in the trailer" no it doesn't actually. For all we know Doomsday could be the last half hour and the other 2 hours is still the central conflict of Batman and Superman. How the fuck can you say it spoils or solves the conflict if you haven't even seen the fucking movie
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Maybe put couple more curse words and I can take you more seriously. People have opinions, hopes and fears for this movie, why not discuss those? You get some feeling of overall story from trailer, it might not be something we end up with, but it's interesting to speculate and discuss.
 
Alienous said:
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Reddit's Brentpierce0 was way ahead of you.
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why is this funny? I'm assuming it's supposed to be.

tattooed_dwarf said:
Maybe put couple more curse words and I can take you more seriously. People have opinions, hopes and fears for this movie, why not discuss those? You get some feeling of overall story from trailer, it might not be something we end up with, but it's interesting to speculate and discuss.
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I don't know how you could not come up with the conclusion that they were going to team up based on the title of the movie. it has dawn of justice in the title, it's so on the nose and obvious that were was going to be an external threat that forced them to team up and realize that working together they are more powerful, like seriously it's so obvious. why the big surprise?

doomsdays seemed like the logical choice to make the team up happen in the movie, big physical threat that doesn't need any character development because he is just a dumb monster that destroys stuff.
 
tattooed_dwarf said:
Maybe put couple more curse words and I can take you more seriously. People have opinions, hopes and fears for this movie, why not discuss those? You get some feeling of overall story from trailer, it might not be something we end up with, but it's interesting to speculate and discuss.
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I'm not saying to not discuss it am I?
All I'm trying to say is that anyone who consistently says "lol don't need to see the movie the trailer showed it to me" is being just obnoxious
 
Marz said:
So ive seen the whole movie now?
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Cool. What's Aquaman's role in this? How was Wonder Woman? Who does Mcnairy play? What was the cliff hanger ending that was rumoured? How does Lex lose his hair? What's the deal with the parademons?
 
a916 said:
His whole backstory is, he's killed, he's brought back to life or he comes back to life, and he's resistant to whatever killed him before.



I said it before and I'll say it again this is wrong on so many levels. It's not a misfire. This is clearly what they wanted, this is the direction they choose to go with and Jesse is nailing that vision out of the park. It would be apt to say, I don't agree with the direction they are taking Luthor.
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I'm sorry, WB doesn't send me memos about all the creative liberties they take with characters. So the casting is a symptom of a character reinvention that I dislike. I'll rephrase it just for you, I dont agree with the direction they're taking.
 
ItsThatAsianBoy said:
Cool. What's Aquaman's role in this? How was Wonder Woman? Who does Mcnairy play? What was the cliff hanger ending that was rumoured? How does Lex lose his hair? What's the deal with the parademons?
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Don't forget to ask about Flash and Victor Stone. Any easter eggs? I fuckin' love easter eggs.
 
Error said:
I don't know how you could not come up with the conclusion that they were going to team up based on the title of the movie. it has dawn of justice in the title, it's so on the nose and obvious that were was going to be an external threat that forced them to team up and realize that working together they are more powerful, like seriously it's so obvious. why the big surprise?

doomsdays seemed like the logical choice to make the team up happen in the movie, big physical threat that doesn't need any character development because he is just a dumb monster that destroys stuff.
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I'm not arguing that it spoiled surprise or the plot. I mean it shows how they are unhurt by their confrontation and seemingly quickly join forces. Yes it have been clear they join together for bigger threat. I just hope they really challenge each other, and especially Batman mentally beats Superman. I don't think movie is ruined for me or anything, I just feel some weight have been lost from heroes confrontation.
 
neorej said:
What's this obsession with the "How does Lex lose his hair"-plotpoint?
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Because it's sometimes seen as a key part of the Clark/Lex/Superman dynamic

Sometimes it comes from his exposure to the K

Sometimes, it comes from being sent to prison

Sometimes, it's naturally

Think once it was an accident Superboy caused
 
I just realized that Lex says at the beginning of the trailer "I love bringing people together". Nice little references to the Mark Zuckerberg influence to this version of Lex.
 
Alienous said:
"So, how many people are in this 'League' of yours?"

"Just us"

BATMAN V SUPERMAN
Dawn of Justice

DIRECTED BY
Zack Snyder
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"What rhymes with Smustice Smeague?"

"Justice League".

BATMAN V SUPERMAN
Dawn of Justice

DIRECTED BY
Zack Snyder

I apologise, I'll show myself out
 
StaticJam said:
I don't get why people are getting so upset about Doomsday. "him showing up resolves the conflict of the premise of the movie in the trailer" no it doesn't actually. For all we know Doomsday could be the last half hour and the other 2 hours is still the central conflict of Batman and Superman. How the fuck can you say it spoils or solves the conflict if you haven't even seen the fucking movie
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I'm talking about from the marketing perspective. In the previous two trailers they've focused on a more sinister tone and the conflict between Batman and Superman. In this one it just feels quite different, with generic dramatic music, quips from Lex and then Bats/Supes, and showing the two working together to defeat the big bad. It deflates the sense of conflict established previously because we know that they team up to fight Doomsday. I mean, obviously we know that they would team up by the end of the film, but this has basically spoiled how that happens.

I mean, in my opinion these two trailers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfUnkBfdZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWzgGyAH6Y

are much more effective and compelling than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fis-9Zqu2Ro

StaticJam said:
I'm not saying to not discuss it am I?
All I'm trying to say is that anyone who consistently says "lol don't need to see the movie the trailer showed it to me" is being just obnoxious
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Maybe you can show us where someone said this? It's one thing to think a trailer spoils too much of the plot. It's another to think that there's no need to see the film having watched the trailer, and I don't think anyone is suggesting the latter.
 
I enjoyed fhe bleak tone of the first trailer, this one has the camp standard we'd expect more, I'm mostly worried I will be tonally inconsistent and long-winded which is the most likely outcome imo.
 
Triggerhappytel said:
Maybe you can show us where someone said this? It's one thing to think a trailer spoils too much of the plot. It's another to think that there's no need to see the film having watched the trailer, and I don't think anyone is suggesting the latter.
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boiled goose said:
This looks awful. I was intrigued after the first trialer. Now i feel like ive seen the movie. Superman vs Batman is just a minor scuffle without consequences.

That trailer game too much away. Unless reviews are glowing, not gonna watch in theaters
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And there's really quite a few more like it. All of the "I feel like I've seen the whole movie" comments are basically saying that there's no need to see the movie.
 
I find it funny that the ones attacking people for not liking the trailer and calling them Marvel fanboys are acting like the very thing they are accusing people of being. A lot of us have already stated we are huge DC fans or loved the previous trailers or that we were hype. This trailer was just bad for many reasons already stated. It doesn't necessary speak to the end product, but we are not talking about that. We are talking about this trailer. Gaf isn't alone on our thoughts on it. Just accept we got different opinions and move on, yeeesh lol.
 
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