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Welcome to DICE. You won't be getting anything for a long while. Enjoy your stay and "your team lost!"
Anton Sugar
Member
Stuff from Demize regarding upcoming patches.
Guided shell getting a nerf?
EOD Bot controls improved
Stinger buff confirmed.
What do you mean? And you've never ever joined a round in any other MP game right before it's about to end?
Guided shell getting a nerf?
EOD Bot controls improved
Stinger buff confirmed.
What do you mean? And you've never ever joined a round in any other MP game right before it's about to end?
The Faceless Master
Member
what's unorganized about that?!
people quit before the game ends, freeing up slots... people join and the game ends. are you saying they should not let people join at a certain point or not let the game count as a loss or something like that?
Teamwork nerfed, OMA buffed
Anton Sugar
Member
what's unorganized about that?!
people quit before the game ends, freeing up slots... people join and the game ends. are you saying they should not let people join at a certain point or not let the game count as a loss or something like that?
Teamwork nerfed, OMA buffed
The guided shell needed SOME sort of nerf--it is the most effective AA in the game and there is no real way (ECM jammer lol) to stop it. I would have rather they add a laser beam, similar to the SOFLAM, to the tank that's locking on, along with a lockon signal that differentiates between AA rocket launchers and laser guided. We'll see how it plays out, though...enjoy your super guided shells while you can!
Not sure how I feel about the stinger buff--I personally thought the stinger was pretty effective. If you are against a pilot with flares, you can get a hit while they reload. If there is a gunner with flares, it's rightfully not so easy.
Generally, I like the balance in the game as far as infantry goes, but the air/AA still needs some work.
The Faceless Master
Member
yeah, it definitely needs a different lock-on signal, and the SOFLAM-like laser beam is a good idea as well! 2HK will be weird, but oh well...
Glad to see they're fixing the EOD Bot controls. They nerfed the speed you can move the view/repair torch in the first or second patch and it's made it a complete pain to even repair a tank that's even slightly moving.
If they're going to buff stingers, they need to fix the instant-lock that happens all the time. It's pretty laughable they can't just make them detonate once they lose their original target instead of letting them find a new target like currently.
Why does DICE think that a 64 player game should have the same balance as a 24 player one? Are they so utterly stupid that they cannot even understand that the PC should not receive the exact same balance changes as console. Stinger is useless in a 24 player game and almost overpowered in a 64 player game. This one size fits all stuff has to stop.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I have a confession: I don't like the B2K maps.
Found myself hopping from Caspian to Caspian servers over the last two days. I could play that map all day.
Found myself hopping from Caspian to Caspian servers over the last two days. I could play that map all day.
Anton Sugar
Member
Oman and Sharqi are the only good ones. Come at me bro, but Shoots and Ladders sucks and Wake was neutered on consoles so it sucks.
EOD Bot sucks not because of the controls but because it's prone to clipping. :|
Also yeah, they need to fix that reload kit items bit when a previous one is still there. Either allow L1/LT/whatever on PC let you go to your deployed kit item (and remove the other one... but I guess this would be easy to point exploit for support) or something.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I don't even have a valid reason for not liking them... I just never have fun when playing them.
RebornYeti
Member
I love all B2K maps, although I wish they would remove the F35 from them. So useless.
Can't you do both? While leveling up the recon class, I was constantly spamming the spot button while using the MAV and road killing people if the opportunity presented itself. I would use it to roadkill people who are trying to capture a defenseless flag. That said, I'm not sure how I feel about the MAV. I like spotting the enemies for my teammates to kill and distracting enemies who focus on the MAV instead of my oncoming teammates, but sometimes I feel like I'm punking out by using it.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Anyone know how to use guided shell? It seems to work fine on vehicles but it never locks onto helis/jets?
it can only lock onto the air vehicles if they have been laser designated.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Thought so. Damn. No one ever does that for me, haha.
Well play with Norua, splinter and I. We need a fourth for our squad and we all have the third seat for laser designating.
Pretty much. The only kill I got in that shitty thing was roadkilling someone as I crashed.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
I am down. I added you on Battlelog. I play support 98% of the time but my first maxed class was assault so I can do either class extremely well.
AlmostMilk
Member
I wouldn't say so. I have found a way to make the F35 more maneuverable than the other planes, but I just can't let that secret out. Sorry.
The Faceless Master
Member
all i do is kill choppers and ground troops/vehicles... and the occasional n00b pilot that flies past me when i stoppie!
CITV designating is useless. Tank has a vert lock and the CITV has too short (shorter than SOFLAM) range for it to be too useful unless you catch them off guard. And even then (on consoles anyway) it may take 5+ shots to take the fucker down because your lock-on-guided-shell mysteriously vanishes or doesn't chase them. WTF.
A constant Support would be better since none of us really play the class. I hate picking up a dead guy's kit because I don't have any bullets left. Infinite javelins would be nice too.
Strange we rape anything armored with it. We also play on the big boy maps too and never had an issue with range.
Shaundakahl
Member
I will respectfully disagree with you on the CITV being useless. It is my squads goto method in eliminating all flying vehicles. And while I sport the canister shell when I drive, my squadmates rock the guided shell and it has never let us down. We can take E on Firestorm and hold it against the near spawn against all comers. Teammwork, FTW
OttomanScribe
Member
Couldn't disagree more. CITV is immensely useful, especially against pesky choppers.
It would be worth its weight in gold just to have a third position on the tank for a dedicated repair/infantry defence player. I ride around, a third pair of eyes on the sky and rooftops, and when stuff gets hairy I'll jump out and repair. Or lend my RPG to a tank battle. Or flush out pesky infantry with a shotgun.
It is a great emplacement and conveys a serious tactical advantage when used well.
HDgaming42
Member
???
Most choppers on the servers I play will try to fly low to avoid SOFLAMS. Or they'll swoop low enough that the tank can get a shot. Besides, all it takes is an engy with a JAV to take advantage of CITV. Sometimes our gunner will jump out and take the shot.
I hate jumping into the CITV and having the driver freak out and start throwing smoke as soon as I've got a lock for him. "THAT'S ME!!!" I type, but few randoms can read it seems...
Or the wonderful cycle of "{name}, do you have rockets equipped? Is it worth my time to CITV for you?", get no response, try again, no response, switch squads, spawn on new tank, and repeat. Eventually leave server as its full of CoD smurfs who are incapable of communication.
Kind of a nice feeling to watch the same tank I've abandoned get raped by a Viper though. That's what a lack of teamwork gets you pal.
Range is too short, I feel. Same thing with SOFLAM, but SOFLAM has a better range because the tank/CITV's range is pitifully short on Operation Firestorm.
Me and another teammate get in a tank. He gets on the CITV and locks onto a jet. OH HEY GUI--WAIT SHIT THEY FLEW OVER US AND THE LOCK BROKE. SHIT SHIT SHIT. (slowly turn) LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK-ON! *FIRE* "EAT SHIT YOU ASSH--Wait, what? My missile mysteriously vanished? You turn 10 degrees and my missile doesn't follow? What the fu--*death*"
CITV can be useful when it works but it's too useless 98% of the time to be useful for that 2%.
After all the hype of "Laser Guided Win Bomb seat" I'm completely underwhelmed. Sure, that guided shell may be a OHKO (for now)... when it hits.
HDgaming42
Member
There's the problem. I don't even bother trying to lock jets anymore--I agree, its a waste of time. You've got to be a pretty bad jet pilot to be taken out by a tank.
Can't say I believe you without hearing this awesome "secret" or seeing some unedited video.
CITV is a big reason they are nerfing OHK with Javs/Guided Shells. It's the most powerful final unlock for vehicles. You are basically an armored SOFLAM/Jav combo that can have 2 Engineers ready to repair at any time.
Stop trying to SOFLAM/CITV jets. Focus on Helis and Armor. That's why you're not getting hits. Jets can outrun Javelins if they know how to fly right (note before people think this makes jets OP, it takes a lot of time to lose the Jav and if you're in a dogfight or being chased by the other jet, it's going to be almost impossible unless you out turn the rocket).
Lol slow? Maybe your a patch behind on consoles but the CITV station moves like a rabbit on crack, its so sensitive. And yeah dont target jets unless they are on a bombing run because at top speed jets can out run guided shells and javelins
I'm talking the guided shell in the tank. CITV is too short a range, guided in pilot seat has too slow a turn speed in addition to a vert lock to where all a flying vehicle has to do is fly over your head and then proceed to shoot you in the ass because you have a molasses turning speed to try to relock.
Combos not that good for what people hyped it to be.
Again you just crank vehicle sensitivity or the dpi on your mouse. Now stop complaining and join the dark side.
If your turret speed is slow, adjust your vehicle sensitivity or get a mouse with DPI adjustment. Also, you can get a lock with Guided Shell/CITV far before a heli can get above you. The range is identical to a ground-based SOFLAM. If the heli is sneaking up on you, that's another story and you just need to have your jets and other teammates spot helis when they take off.
Hes a console player. Thats why he must join us
Buy me a PC and maybe.
Anton Sugar
Member
Ugh, I hate this. Happened a bunch this afternoon--driver never responds when I am in CITV. DO YOU NOT REALIZE THE POWER AT YOUR FINGERTIPS???
Spl1nter and I had a good run in a MBT though.
Consoles must be different, because CITV on PC means instant death for any airborne choppers and a super advantage against enemy armor. It's kinda ridiculous.
elrechazado
Banned
heh, just stop
Build your own!
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
Everytime I try to connect to a game it gives me a black screen but can hear menu audio in the background. Have to restart the console
HDgaming42
Member
OMG no!! If a chopper has unlocked ECM and has any skill its already nearly impossible to get a lock. Flares aren't a problem, but a good chopper pilot is able to throw ECM and duck behind something to break any re-locking attempts on Caspian or Operation Firestorm.
I rarely kill good chopper pilots the way it is, but at least CITV is a deterrent and they usually break off their attack and leave us alone for a while.
We're going to have to put TWO missiles in them to take them down? Oh god...they won't bother breaking off and just straff us all to hell knowing we can't get two shots on them before we're dead...
I'd agree that without ECM, CITV is instant death to choppers, but once unlocked it really evens the score. All I can do is scare off competent pilots as it stands with "OHK", if they nerf CITV I'm going to have to start flying a chopper...
HDgaming42
Member
glad to hear I'm not the only one frustrated by this!
I can see where it can be ridculous, but... again... that's if the damn guided shell hits. Even against helicopters the range is pitiful in comparison to SOFLAM and Javalin. I can see why they're nerfing it, but they should fix the CITV range. Otherwise it's basically a "hold your dick in your hand while twirling the mouse/right-stick + L1/right-mouse click to IRV" seat. :|
To give you an idea of how short the range of CITV is: Go to Kharg Island. "A"/flag in Conquest, Second Set in Rush. Tank spawn in Rush to the front edge of the building on defense in Rush. That's how short the range is.
Compared to a Sniper running up the mountain first set/RU(?) base in Conquest. Putting a SOFLAM up there. Being able to lock on to air vehicles at the edge of the beach and (IIRC) possibly lock on to the boat in Rush.
I'd take the Javalin and SOFLAM combo any day over praying the CITV will attempt to lock and the pilot/me is able to lock on in time.
Give me the money, I meant.
The Faceless Master
Member
what's funny seks is just today i missed TWO guided shells in a row on a helicopter FLYING RIGHT AT ME... that was strange to me... i mean, occasionally the first misses, but the 2nd? WAT!?
still, i disagree, guided shells = awesome
i'm gonna cry for the nerf.
still, i disagree, guided shells = awesome
i'm gonna cry for the nerf.
I don't disagree with that. I rock Guided Shells because it + one aimed normal tank shell = disabled tank. But I do disagree that it + CITV (which is what I'm bitching about) = TEH GODLY. Sure, it OHKOs... if you get the damn shell to hit with the damn short CITV range.
HDgaming42
Member
Maybe it works differently on consoles? Once I've got a lock, that choppa's goin' down. I've seen the missile hit obstacles between it and the chopper, but I've (luckily?) never had it miss.
Also, it frustrates me to see high level engineers play 12 matches in a row and not once switch to JAVs. I light up armour every match--hell guys, you don't even need line of sight! Just point at the big glowing triangle on your screen and fire. Near-instant lock. Free points.
I can see how only having 2 JAVs sucks, but that's why you squad up with a support for more ammo.
I'd love to play a map where other players paint as much armour as I seem to be doing. Then I could switch out of CITV and actually score more than my measly spotting and target bonuses.
Patrick Bateman
Member
I'm playing MW3 right now, just out of curiosity to know how it is, and one simple thing is FAAAR better than BF3: You can skip the whole logo and intro shit.
OttomanScribe
Member
Yeah I've noticed I die disproportionately to it
weird.Any Aussie players feel free to add me, my forum name is the same as my battle log one.
I wonder why they give you so few Javs. Never made sense to me.