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[Pif]

Ok so seeing as we're meant to take everything Laura says as stone cold facts.

The battery of the Switch is mediocre
The dock has additional hardware that improves performance (despite Nintendo claiming the contrary)
Nintendo will be revealing full hardware specs before the end of the month
There is a multi-touch screen
Nintendo will be revealing price before the end of this month

I think at this point, if that's true, that Nintendo wants to avoid the "underclock" talk.

Since it is a console first, they will share maximum clock specs I suppose, and avoid the mobile underclocked performance to keep the image that it is always the same experience. With or without dock.

 

[phanphare]

Yeah, but in this case her comment does not really appear logical based on what we know and see. She definitely knows her stuff, but in this case it does not make sense unless we believe that somebody faked a dev kit that looks more or less exactly like the retail unit, which is more than just unlikely.

a gafer got pretty damn close to what the switch looked like in that concept art thread based on just the rumors

she could be wrong in this particular instance, I'm certainly not ruling that out, I'm just saying I'd lend her more credence than whoever posted that pic of the supposed dev kit

all of that is to say that for me personally I'd say it's fake until someone reputable claims otherwise

My only issue is why we're suddenly expected to believe everything as gospel now. As far as I know leakers generally don't always have reliable information.

The better leakers generally try and seek verification from multiple sources before leaking anything right? Which Laura claims happened with the naming of the console, she basically said she was told a name but couldn't verfy it from other sources so held back. But apparently the name she was given was Switch.

But with things like her claim of the battery life, I don't think it's unreasonable to wait for actual hands ons as opposed to being shot down unless you believe Laura and that it's mediocre.

I guess ultimately what I'm saying is that because someone has been right in the past does NOT guarantee that any future information will be 100% accurate 100% of the time.

I agree with this, but I tend to lend her credence until she proves otherwise. as far as I know her track record isn't near spotless it is actually spotless. I'm not saying to take everything she says as gospel, I'm saying I'm more inclined than not to believe her given her history and how she chooses to hold back and share information. I mean, for the Until Dawn VR thing she reported on it and it was officially denied shortly after (I forgot by who but it was either the developers or sony who denied it). then poof, it was real after all.

 

[jeffram]

The more I think about this system, the more I'm baffled by it's approach.

Nintendo is calling this their next Home Console, but they've done everything to untether it from the home, and reduce it's appeal as a home console compared to competitor. It looks like it won't ship with hardware to connect it to the TV, and it's severely underpowered compared to the competition.

It's gimmick is it's portability, but look at that thing, it's not portable. That's not a system you can easily carry around with you. Portables skew young, but this is going to be an expensive piece of kit compared to other portable devices.

As a home console: It's underpowered, requires accessories to play on the TV, and requires accessories to game on comfortably

As a portable: It's big and expensive and might have poor battery life compared to other portables

Maybe there's a synergy there that makes this all work together in an appealing way, but I'm hard pressed to see why that would be the case.

 

[munchie64]

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/

A rundown of rumours by Laura Dale. Looks like her sources are pretty legit.

 

[AGoodODST]

But are you guys seriously hanging on that one tweet and to say that a lady with blue hair decides what's right or wrong on the internet ?

Her claim is taken into consideration, nothing more.

What does being a lady or hair colour have to do with anything? Fuck off with that nonsense.

 

[OCD Guy]

A lot of parents have bought their kids iPad minis or just straight up iPads, which are more expensive most likely and probably more or equally as fragile. If the hype is there and kids ask for it they'll get it.

Yeah it's funny how anything Nintendo release would be too expensive, but ipads, playstations, Xboxes, Iphones are fine.

As you say if it's something that catches on, and is popular it will get bought. I'm obviously not saying that price doesn't matter, it absolutely does. But generally the most important thing is desire.

If something is not desirable it could be $10 and it won't sell. If people aspire and desire to have it that $300 won't stop sales. Look at the Wii and Wii fit bundles, they weren't that cheap but people desired them and splashed the cash.

While many "hate" YouTubers, I think people underestimate the pull they have, especially over a young impressionable audience. Young children take note of what their idols (yes idols) say.

If someone like PewDiePie or JackSeptic Eye, Pointless Vlogs, etc start playing these things it will blow up.

 

[Skittzo0413]

The more I read about Ninty not wanting to talk about games, specs, etc this year the more botched this seems.

Why keep these things secret? It's less than 6 months away and they don't even want to talk about games?

Seems stupid to keep speculation going until 2017.

It's very likely that they don't want to detract from any of their holiday sales, AKA Pokemon and Mario Maker 3DS. I doubt more announcements would actually affect those sales all that much, but Nintendo really has no reason to even test that.

Edit:

Also the NES Mini.

 

[Shiggy]

a gafer got pretty damn close to what the switch looked like in that concept art thread based on just the rumors

she could be wrong in this particular instance, I'm certainly not ruling that out, I'm just saying I'd lend her more credence than whoever posted that pic of the supposed dev kit

all of that is to say that for me personally I'd say it's fake until someone reputable claims otherwise

But this "faker" got the entire shape, design, placement of buttons and fan and card slot, and basically everything right. I haven't seen any mockups of the Switch beforehand that looked anywhere near as close as that. Just compare the "faked" dev kit and the retail unit; based on the leaked information, how would you get the shape and curves right? How about the exact shape and placement of buttons, the fan, and the card slot? How about the exact shape of the screen?

Simply does not make any sense to me. Unless somebody who had the retail unit decided to use his knowledge of previous Nintendo dev kits, and combine this knowledge and the design of the retail unit into an elaborated fake of a dev kit.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I really don't get the people saying its not portable. Being portable doesn't mean it needs to fit in your pockets.

 

[UncleSporky]

Ok so seeing as we're meant to take everything Laura says as stone cold facts.

The battery of the Switch is mediocre
The dock has additional hardware that improves performance (despite Nintendo claiming the contrary)
Nintendo will be revealing full hardware specs before the end of the month
There is a multi-touch screen
Nintendo will be revealing price before the end of this month

The quote specifically says the dock adds charging and provides power. I think it's overly hopeful to interpret "power" as "horsepower" rather than "electricity," but honestly the way it's worded...it's possible.

But don't expect it.

 

[XINTSUAI]

Imo the best setup I think for the system is use it with controllers attached, and when on the dock, start to use the Pro-Controller.. I don't see myself detaching the controles and mounting a controller lego like everytime I want to play on the TV.

This multiplayer with half controller is useless "for me".

Another thing I noticed is the lack os cameras or touch on the screen, at least they do not showed anything that indicate that we'll have this features, what seems weird. Or nintendo is just keeping some secrets to show on the next year.

As the system itself is basically the "tablet", I do believe that we'll have some models with different capacities... Maybe one with camera etc.. for a little more $$$.

 

[Melon Husk]

I hope "Switchtendo" catches on.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Just saw this over at r/gaming. Do you think this'll happen?

 

[Anth0ny]

I do wonder if parents are going to buy switches for their younger kids. Seems like this would be much more expensive and less durable than Nintendo's traditional handheld designs.

I expect it to be $199 or $249 at most.

Might still be hard to convince a parent when mobile gaming is a thing, or even a $99 2DS is still on the shelf...

 

[phanphare]

But this "faker" got the entire shape, design, placement of buttons and fan and card slot, and basically everything right. I haven't seen any mockups of the Switch beforehand that looked anywhere near as close as that. Just compare the "faked" dev kit and the retail unit; based on the leaked information, how would you get the shape and curves right? How about the exact shape and placement of buttons, the fan, and the card slot? How about the exact shape of the screen?

Simply does not make any sense to me. Unless somebody who had the retail unit decided to use his knowledge of previous Nintendo dev kits, and combine this knowledge and the design of the retail unit into an elaborated fake of a dev kit.

all of that was rumored though. the placement of the analog sticks and buttons were rumored, the split dpad was rumored, having a fan was rumored, using cards was rumored.

I'm trying to search for that NX concept that a gafer did because it was pretty damn spot on right down to the grey joy-cons and the black unit

 

[ryan-ts]

The more I think about this system, the more I'm baffled by it's approach.

Nintendo is calling this their next Home Console, but they've done everything to untether it from the home, and reduce it's appeal as a home console compared to competitor. It looks like it won't ship with hardware to connect it to the TV, and it's severely underpowered compared to the competition.

-The dock is going to come with the system, which will allow it to connect to a TV.
-Yes it is under-powered when viewed as a strictly home console device but if it means unifying Nintendo's home and portable development efforts, it will be well worth it.

 

[foppy79]

If someone like PewDiePie or JackSeptic Eye, Pointless Vlogs, etc start playing these things it will blow up.

They never will though, unless nintendo gives them shit tons of money or they get rid of their zealous youtube policy.

Nintendo's overuse of lawyers might be their downfall. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Joelstinton14]

Yeah it's funny how anything Nintendo release would be too expensive, but ipads, playstations, Xboxes, Iphones are fine.

As you say if it's something that catches on, and is popular it will get bought. I'm obviously not saying that price doesn't matter, it absolutely does. But generally the most important thing is desire.

If something is not desirable it could be $10 and it won't sell. If people aspire and desire to have it that $300 won't stop sales.

While many "hate" YouTubers, I think people underestimate the pull they have, especially over a young impressionable audience. Young children take note of what their idols (yes idols) say.

If someone like PewDiePie or JackSeptic Eye, Pointless Vlogs, etc start playing these things it will blow up.

And Nintendo are halfway there, they have made, seemingly by the video and images, made a really attractive, modern, slender, console. They've got some of the desirability there already. I agree, market this right, exposure with the YT stars etc, good games etc, and hopefully it will all fall into place.

From the reveal yesterday, i think is abundantly clear that Nintendo understand what they want the Switch to be and what it is. It was clear, well directed, well planned video, that reminded me of Apple. I really think Nintendo have got their shit together with this.

 

[spekkeh]

For the first time in a decade Nintendo will be able to focus exclusively on game design

Find this a pretty narrow view of game design. Their new control schemes offered great opportunities for innovative game experiences. Maybe you mean mechanics or systems design? Nintendo is not going to crawl up its own ass with those anyway, because they believe in low threshold playfulness. At best you can say they can't hide behind lazy gimmicks anymore (but can now hide behind lazy genre conventions instead), but then, have you played Wii U games? Some of their best work yet.

 

[OCD Guy]

The quote specifically says the dock adds charging and provides power. I think it's overly hopeful to interpret "power" as "horsepower" rather than "electricity," but honestly the way it's worded...it's possible.

But don't expect it.

To be clear I don't expect it at all.

Infact I was constantly re-iterating that any performance differences between docked and handheld would more than likely come from power state differences, e.g the Nvidia SOC downclocking itself while portable to promote better battery life, and then run at "normal" clocks while docked.

As opposed to the dock housing additional hardware from Nvidia along the lines of a processor or gpu. It just wouldn't make any sense, it would significantly add to the cost and would be extremely complicated to incorporate.

The only thing I could potentially see on the dock is active cooling, and perhaps additional storage.

 

[Stone Ocean]

But this "faker" got the entire shape, design, placement of buttons and fan and card slot, and basically everything right. I haven't seen any mockups of the Switch beforehand that looked anywhere near as close as that. Just compare the "faked" dev kit and the retail unit; based on the leaked information, how would you get the shape and curves right? How about the exact shape and placement of buttons, the fan, and the card slot? How about the exact shape of the screen?

Simply does not make any sense to me. Unless somebody who had the retail unit decided to use his knowledge of previous Nintendo dev kits, and combine this knowledge and the design of the retail unit into an elaborated fake of a dev kit.

Guessing the placements of things we knew existed isn't some herculean task. We had rumours about the size of the screen, of placement of things, the overall look of the hardware, and so on.

It's not unfair to expect that mock up to be based on real info, but saying that thing might be real is pushing it.

 

[spekkeh]

Another question I have and hope will be the case. With the use of cartridges... can the cost of a game potentially be less on the switch. Say 39.99 or 49.99? That could really sway some people (maybe). What do you guys think?

No cartridges are considerably more expensive.

 

[Enduin]

Yeah it's funny how anything Nintendo release would be too expensive, but ipads, playstations, Xboxes, Iphones are fine.

As you say if it's something that catches on, and is popular it will get bought. I'm obviously not saying that price doesn't matter, it absolutely does. But generally the most important thing is desire.

If something is not desirable it could be $10 and it won't sell. If people aspire and desire to have it that $300 won't stop sales.

While many "hate" YouTubers, I think people underestimate the pull they have, especially over a young impressionable audience. Young children take note of what their idols (yes idols) say.

If someone like PewDiePie or JackSeptic Eye, Pointless Vlogs, etc start playing these things it will blow up.

I think $250 is the sweet spot, for me at least. It's an attractive and relatively cheap enough price point compared to other electronics that most people won't balk at it, but at the same time is pricey enough that internally the system should have solid hardware to back it up.

$200 though would be pretty insane and it could sell like gangbusters at that price even if the market reaction isn't through the roof at first, but personally that feels too cheap to me for a system that is supposed to be a console and handheld. I would fear for the capabilities and any chance of native 1080p titles. That said I think if the buzz is really strong and they have some great software that really excites the market they could get away with $300, if they pack in a must have Wii Sports type game.

Ideally though at $250 they'll have a killer app packed in, just like the Wii.

The biggest obstacle for them is informing consumers on what the system does and the appeal of having a system that you can play at home on your TV and then seamlessly take with you on the go. If they can sell that message and get people excited about it, which so far they seem to have done, then half the battle is won. They'll just need to have a really great lineup of games to support it and make that versatility a must have.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Guessing the placements of things we knew existed isn't some herculean task. We had rumours about the size of the screen, of placement of things, the overall look of the hardware, and so on.

It's not unfair to expect that mock up to be based on real info, but saying that thing might be real is pushing it.

uhhh.

you should take another look at it. That thing is not a product of guesswork whatever it is.

 

[GamerJM]

Just saw this over at r/gaming. Do you think this'll happen?

I hope they have a analog gate joycon for the left side. IMO that's a more important thing for Smash than the Gamecube button layout.

 

[VistraNorrez]

I really don't get the people saying its not portable. Being portable doesn't mean it needs to fit in your pockets.

It's really strange. I see so many people bring 10 inch tablets to events and use them as cameras. Plenty of people have ereaders and books that are also huge. Carrying a bag around is very common for both men and women now. Portability doesn't mean fit in a pocket anymore. Not that most portable things every fit in anyone's pocket. The original Gameboy never did. I had a Game Gear growing up and I needed to have a bag to lug that thing around. This desire to fit electronics in a pocket was maybe a 15 year trend.

Not to mention portability is useful even if you never leave the house. Not having a console tethered to one location in your house is quite nice. If my wife has a show coming on, and I'm not near a save point or really involved in a boss fight, I can keep playing the game with barely an issue.

 

[oni-link]

Find this a pretty narrow view of game design. Their new control schemes offered great opportunities for innovative game experiences. Maybe you mean mechanics or systems design? Nintendo is not going to crawl up its own ass with those anyway, because they believe in low threshold playfulness. At best you can say they can't hide behind lazy gimmicks anymore (but can now hide behind lazy genre conventions instead), but then, have you played Wii U games? Some of their best work yet.

I mean we have 10 years of Nintendo games and maybe 2 or 3 that were improved with the addition of pointer controls or double screen gaming

Meanwhile we have dozens of Nintendo games that are amazing because of how they are designed mechanically

Yes, I own a Wii U and use the Pro on every game that supports it

 

[AtomicShroom]

"Laura Kate Dale ‏@LaurakBuzz 22h22 hours ago
That "NX dev kit" which was floating around today was a mock up based on the rumours available. Dev kit looks very different."

https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/789137115120623616

she's been spot on with her info, not just in regards to Nintendo

no reason to doubt this

she was the one who reported the Until Dawn VR game

What if the devkit she knows about or saw is an older dev kit, and that this isn't a newer devkit model that she hasn't seen? Devkits go through many updates before the final release.

How do you explain that someone, prior to seeing the switch reveal video, based only on rumors, was able to come up with a "fake" mockup that is accurate down to minute details such as the shape/position of vents, game card slot, volume buttons, notches, etc. ? Go ahead. Explain me that. I want your detailed theory. All of it.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

And then you got crap like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocs3LVbAZM

 

[Steve Youngblood]

-Yes it is under-powered when viewed as a strictly home console device but if it means unifying Nintendo's home and portable development efforts, it will be well worth it.

My honest reaction when I see people argue the point that this isn't powerful enough is probably that you're not their market anyway. And by that, I don't mean that people are lying or being insincere when they say they wish that this was a meatier console for solid AAA third party ports, but I do wonder if they'd really wind up buying a Nintendo console anyway to play those games. I mean, sure, some people do really like Nintendo and would prefer only owning one box. But I think by and large if what you're after is Call of Duty, Battlefield, EA Sports, Assassins Creed, etc. you're already playing those games on another box and why wouldn't you just stick with that? They're already gaming on PlayStation, Xbox, and/or PC. Why would they switch to Nintendo for these games?

My answer to that mostly rhetorical question is that they wouldn't and Nintendo recognizes this fact.

 

[klier]

Guys, it is perfectly clear that the dock adds power. Just look at how BOTW looked on the go vs on the TV. It was very clear.

 

[outunderthestars]

Just saw this over at r/gaming. Do you think this'll happen?

I love this idea.

I expect it to be $199 or $249 at most.

Might still be hard to convince a parent when mobile gaming is a thing, or even a $99 2DS is still on the shelf...

I am thinking $249 for the core system and $299 with a bundled pro controller and a demo cart of some sort or large micro SD card.

 

[opticalmace]

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/

A rundown of rumours by Laura Dale. Looks like her sources are pretty legit.

"Source B (Ubisoft) has said a maximum battery life of three hours."

Erm....

 

[spekkeh]

I really don't get the people saying its not portable. Being portable doesn't mean it needs to fit in your pockets.

Nobody wears a 3DS in their pocket anyway, you'd come off like a major bellend. I just walked around the campus, 99% were wearing bag (university is impossible without a laptop). The remaining 1% was jogging.

 

[Oddduck]

It's a good looking system. I really like it.

 

[runnin_blue]

It's gimmick is it's portability, but look at that thing, it's not portable. That's not a system you can easily carry around with you.

I honestly can't see much of a difference size wise. Other than a slight length differential. Who the hell has been shoving a Vita down their jean's pocket?

I've been a gamer 30 years and honestly never met a person who had a portable system in their pocket when out and about (well maybe a Game & Watch).

Backpack + gaming system = pleasant and normal.

 

[azyless]

I hope the Wii U Pro Controller will be compatible with this.

"Source B (Ubisoft) has said a maximum battery life of three hours."

Erm....

Damn. I mean I'll still buy it for Zelda alone but if I'm supposed to replace my 3DS with a "handheld" that lasts only 3 hours...

 

[OCD Guy]

They never will though, unless nintendo gives them shit tons of money or they get rid of their zealous youtube policy.

Nintendo's overuse of lawyers might be their downfall. Hope I'm wrong.

Yes Nintendo definitely need to relax on their copyright policy, trying to monetize other people's videos is not going to help them.

A lot of brands are realizing the pull YouTube has, Nintendo need to embrace it.

There's a reason Activision and EA are very successful, they have their marketing on point, and they keep up with the times. It's well known that they provide early access etc to key youtubers as they know the pull it can have. I'd argue that YouTUbe has made FUT in fifa as popular as it is today.

And Nintendo are halfway there, they have made, seemingly by the video and images, made a really attractive, modern, slender, console. They've got some of the desirability there already. I agree, market this right, exposure with the YT stars etc, good games etc, and hopefully it will all fall into place.

From the reveal yesterday, i think is abundantly clear that Nintendo understand what they want the Switch to be and what it is. It was clear, well directed, well planned video, that reminded me of Apple. I really think Nintendo have got their shit together with this.

I'm feeling as positive as you are.

Infact it shocks me that some people are thinking that this is the Wii U all over again. I watched the Wii U reveal trailer again to refresh my memory and I was absolutely shocked at it. It was like a reveal for a new controller for the Wii.

The Switch is completely clear what the device is, and what that device does. It also doesn't use any bright, garish colors. I feel that they've definitely tried to modernize the hardware.

I'm not saying it looks as slick as Apple Hardware, but for Nintendo it's a massive step up. It looked like less of a toy. Without causing offence the 3DS looks like an actualy plastic toy compared to the switch.

 

[Hindl]

The more I think about this system, the more I'm baffled by it's approach.

Nintendo is calling this their next Home Console, but they've done everything to untether it from the home, and reduce it's appeal as a home console compared to competitor. It looks like it won't ship with hardware to connect it to the TV, and it's severely underpowered compared to the competition.

It's gimmick is it's portability, but look at that thing, it's not portable. That's not a system you can easily carry around with you. Portables skew young, but this is going to be an expensive piece of kit compared to other portable devices.

As a home console: It's underpowered, requires accessories to play on the TV, and requires accessories to game on comfortably

As a portable: It's big and expensive and might have poor battery life compared to other portables

Maybe there's a synergy there that makes this all work together in an appealing way, but I'm hard pressed to see why that would be the case.

Almost everything you've said is speculation. Why would you think it wouldn't launch with the dock? That's a central part of the platform. We have no idea what the power of it will be, but severely underpowered is a stretch. It'll be weaker than the other consoles, yes, but I think it'll be closer than the Wii U - PS4/XB1 gap. It looks smaller than an iPad, and people don't have problems carrying around those, so I don't think portability is an issue. And you keep saying this is going to be an expensive piece of kit, but this'll most likely be sub $300, which seems perfect. Pretty much the only good speculation you have here is that it'll probably have mediocre battery life.

 

[tesqui]

i just realized the directional buttons are all separated. It reminds me of the n64 yellow buttons.

 

[The_Lump]

Trying to get my head round why that dock is so chunky at the back. Far too fat for just a few ports.

Options so far:

Contains psu?
Contains storage?
Contains other hardware?
Contains additional cooling?

Storage seems most likely I guess.

 

[Enduin]

Just saw this over at r/gaming. Do you think this'll happen?

I think this was floating around after the initial Eurogamer leak of info on the system.

It's a novel idea and could be really cool, for some games, but I think end of the day it's cost prohibitive. Unless those novelty controllers are like ~15 bucks, or really less, I don't see it working. People don't like clutter and they generally don't like buying extra shit. Maybe if they pack it in with the game it's for it might work out for some big games, but yeah.

At most I expect an official, or not official, Pro style Joy-cons that add in a real D-Pad and analog triggers with offset thumbsticks and buttons with some beefier grips.

 

[Davey Cakes]

I'm holding my prediction that Switch will be $249.99 for the base SKU in North America. It may even include some digital "pack-in" content. Not sure about elsewhere, given the considerations for different market needs.

In my opinion, Nintendo should just stick with one SKU, at least per region. I think offering too many options is a mistake, especially if one is obviously better than the other and appears more valuable to the consumer. Wii U clearly didn't need to have basic and premium options, and over time it seemed like the basic one was used in bundles merely to clear the stock out.

Simplification is key for them.

 

[runnin_blue]

Trying to get my head round why that dock is so chunky at the back. Far too fat for just a few ports.

Options so far:

Contains psu?
Contains storage?
Contains other hardware?
Contains additional cooling?

Storage seems most likely I guess.

Projector? Lol.

 

[UncleSporky]

Guys, it is perfectly clear that the dock adds power. Just look at how BOTW looked on the go vs on the TV. It was very clear.

It's been stated repeatedly in this thread that any game footage seen in the trailer was all faked/overlaid, and prerelease, no UIs anywhere. Do not use it to judge the strength of the console.

 

[Gorillaz]

I don't think I'll be able to go forward without calling this thing the Nintendo Hitch from now on.

Surprised Will Smith and Hitch jokes haven't been out there crazy

 

[Joelstinton14]

I'm feeling as positive as you are.

Infact it shocks me that some people are thinking that this is the Wii U all over again. I watched the Wii U reveal trailer again to refresh my memory and I was absolutely shocked at it. It was like a reveal for a new controller for the Wii.

.

I think in general, (i said this is a few times heh) the general reaction as been really positive, and nintendo will be pleased.

Just at the moment people are curious, asking questions, have a few natural concerns, and that is normal. When the pro got revealed a couple of weeks back, the same thing happened.

Problem with message boards is that we all like to think we know stuff, and become arm chair analysts. Which is ok, thats why we are here right? We love gaming. But we do also tend to talk out our backside, and in reality we don't really know anything.

And then you get a few shitposters, but that happens too.

But overall, the last 24 hours has been really good for nintendo. I think people are reacted really well to it. Outside gaf, people will be talking about it to their friends, colleagues etc.

 

[tr00per]

I think this was floating around after the initial Eurogamer leak of info on the system.

It's a novel idea and could be really cool, for some games, but I think end of the day it's cost prohibitive. Unless those novelty controllers are like ~15 bucks, or really less, I don't see it working. People don't like clutter and they generally don't like buying extra shit. Maybe if they pack it in with the game it's for it might work out for some big games, but yeah.

At most I expect an official, or not official, Pro style Joy-cons that add in a real D-Pad and analog triggers with offset thumbsticks and buttons with some beefier grips.

Whoa that is pretty cool but I agree with you on all points

 

[GurgleBot20]

i just realized the directional buttons are all separated. It reminds me of the n64 yellow buttons.

This put me off but we'll see. Luckily, the pro controller at least looks to have a traditional d-pad.

 

[Somnid]

Trying to get my head round why that dock is so chunky at the back. Far too fat for just a few ports.

Options so far:

Contains psu?
Contains storage?
Contains other hardware?
Contains additional cooling?

Storage seems most likely I guess.

Could be wrong but I think it's hollow to allow the dock to sit horizontal instead and run wires underneath.