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Eric Wareheim is a fan of moe anime. Not even joking.
Believe it or not, gamers who like the Atelier series are NOT pedophiles
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Eric Wareheim is a fan of moe anime. Not even joking.
Delusibeta
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Ultimately, it comes down to a clash of cultures. Broadly speaking (and I realise I'm grossly oversimplifying things here) in Japan cute things sell, while in America manly things sell. That's not to say that manly things won't sell in Japan (see: Fist of the North Star, Dragon Ball Z etc) and cute things won't sell in America (see: Hello Kitty, My Little Pony etc), of course, but the generally speaking cute things don't sell as well as manly things in America and vice-versa for Japan.
It's interesting how the reaction to anime fans have been in this thread. I suppose it's for largely the same reason why the Friendship Is Magic fandom is reviled: a sense of "what do you mean, this isn't just for little girls?" and more widely a belief that animation is strictly for children and how adults shouldn't like cute things. (And yes, I realise that having a Poyopoyo avatar makes me a bit of a hypocrite analysing people who go out of their way to post on internet forums that they hate anime, but frankly I don't give a shit and neither should you)
I could go on and reference Brass Eye (most people in the UK will probably know that I'm referring specifically to the special they did sending up the media's reaction to paedophiles) but first I have to watch the bloody thing first (hurrah for Channel 4 uploading the entire shooting match, and indeed everything they've ever commissioned on YouTube, but that's another topic for another thread). We could also talk about how a lack of a religion that condemned outside-of-marrage sex for most of its long, long existence could have influenced Japanese media and wider society, in particular with reference to fanservice, but I am not an expert and will probably make a dog's dinner of the topic and that discussion will probably boil down to people making lists of anime avatars in a similar manner as to how this thread is going.
It's interesting how the reaction to anime fans have been in this thread. I suppose it's for largely the same reason why the Friendship Is Magic fandom is reviled: a sense of "what do you mean, this isn't just for little girls?" and more widely a belief that animation is strictly for children and how adults shouldn't like cute things. (And yes, I realise that having a Poyopoyo avatar makes me a bit of a hypocrite analysing people who go out of their way to post on internet forums that they hate anime, but frankly I don't give a shit and neither should you)
I could go on and reference Brass Eye (most people in the UK will probably know that I'm referring specifically to the special they did sending up the media's reaction to paedophiles) but first I have to watch the bloody thing first (hurrah for Channel 4 uploading the entire shooting match, and indeed everything they've ever commissioned on YouTube, but that's another topic for another thread). We could also talk about how a lack of a religion that condemned outside-of-marrage sex for most of its long, long existence could have influenced Japanese media and wider society, in particular with reference to fanservice, but I am not an expert and will probably make a dog's dinner of the topic and that discussion will probably boil down to people making lists of anime avatars in a similar manner as to how this thread is going.
Haku pissed me off more than anyone. He should've been a girl.
Pointing out the avatars of those who have no problem liking cute things in order to prove a point doesn't get anywhere. No shit their avatar is a girl with rosy cheeks, they like cute characters.
Personally, I don't play these games and have no interest in them. I'm not a fan of the aesthetics and the gameplay doesn't appeal to me either. I don't give a damn about others liking this stuff though. I find it pretty damn sad how closed minded people are about this type of thing, and it's exactly like others have said. Why is it that people find it so outrageous when a guy finds something cute. If a person sees a little girl tripping and thinks that's adorable, then just let them think it's adorable. It's pretty ridiculous that in this day and age we still think everyone should like the same exact shit as everyone else.
Personally, I don't play these games and have no interest in them. I'm not a fan of the aesthetics and the gameplay doesn't appeal to me either. I don't give a damn about others liking this stuff though. I find it pretty damn sad how closed minded people are about this type of thing, and it's exactly like others have said. Why is it that people find it so outrageous when a guy finds something cute. If a person sees a little girl tripping and thinks that's adorable, then just let them think it's adorable. It's pretty ridiculous that in this day and age we still think everyone should like the same exact shit as everyone else.
"Stop having hobbies and have sex instead!"
Plans were accorded.
You sound "repressed"
but this can be solved with the ultimate fusion of cute and manly
and by that I mean Tokyo Jungle
What is the appeal of anime children?
What is the explanation for this:
What is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT2GRpwwS8M
When you support companies that sexualize children, you're supporting pedophilia, doesn't matter how good the "game" is. Especially when the rewards are putting these children in perverse situations.
If you want to end the pedophilia promotion stereotype that's continually reinforced by anime companies stop defending their material no matter how "good" it is. I love Mario, but if the end goal was to rape the child princess at the end I wouldn't be supporting it.
What is the explanation for this:
What is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT2GRpwwS8M
When you support companies that sexualize children, you're supporting pedophilia, doesn't matter how good the "game" is. Especially when the rewards are putting these children in perverse situations.
If you want to end the pedophilia promotion stereotype that's continually reinforced by anime companies stop defending their material no matter how "good" it is. I love Mario, but if the end goal was to rape the child princess at the end I wouldn't be supporting it.
I feel that it could be either one. Both are immature, ignorant attitudes to have.
Is it?
What exactly are you trying to imply here? Everyone with an avatar of a "little girl" is a child fucker?
What is the appeal of anime children?
What is the appeal of these characters?
What is the explanation for this:
What is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT2GRpwwS8M
When you support companies that sexualize children, you're supporting pedophilia, doesn't matter how good the "game" is. Especially when the rewards are putting these children in perverse situations.
If you want to end the pedophilia promotion stereotype that's continually reinforced by anime companies stop defending their material no matter how "good" it is. I love Mario, but if the end goal was to rape the child princess at the end I wouldn't be supporting it.
My avatar is cute. I like cute things. OMG A WOMAN LIKING CUTE THINGS
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Would the cute pictures be acceptable for females? lol Anyways i think in western culture it's a kind of norm for men to have this toughness about them and show no emotion attitude.Hell i can say my dad raised me with that mindset.Anything that's decidedly feminine by western standards in is "gay"
Well, the description quite clearly says,
"This is a collection of Ayu's Uguu moments from Kanon."
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Well... this thread has taken quite the turn. Um, the only thing that bothers me about the anime Loli (?), little girls in skirt... characters/games/avatars is the stigma that surrounds the situation. It's hard to take see them in any other light other than kind of creepy. It's not the user's fault. But yeah.
And its not even the "cuteness" factor.
And its not even the "cuteness" factor.
Boss Man
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Well, in my case at least, it's either a mod with a good sense of humor or a mod with no sense of humor.What is the appeal of anime children?
Is that the girl from Hyouka? I thought she was all messed up in the head and had the eyes of a serial killer.
Laughing Banana
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This thread is mindblowing.
To judge people just because of their avatar?
Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a Call of Duty/military themed avatars as stupid dudebro folks or those little children who screamed bigoted things through XBLA. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a real-life picture of themselves as avatar as bloody narcissists. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a picture of actor/actresses as their avatar as screaming fanboy/girls.
So bloody ridiculous.
To judge people just because of their avatar?
Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a Call of Duty/military themed avatars as stupid dudebro folks or those little children who screamed bigoted things through XBLA. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a real-life picture of themselves as avatar as bloody narcissists. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a picture of actor/actresses as their avatar as screaming fanboy/girls.
So bloody ridiculous.
Femmeworth
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Comparing violent (death, gore, guns, etc.) content to sexual content and their potential effects is a very flawed comparison. A person is more likely going to have sexual opportunities than such violent opportunities.
I think an obsession (particularly Japan's) with cuteness/innocence is inherently problematic, not that you are necessarily obsessed.
LunaticHigh
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they like playing and experiencing rpg systems in a world that's relaxing, cute and colorful? Possibly want to be carefree, like they were when they were a child again, without having to build a time machine?
I can word things like that, as well.
So why do people like games where they get to brutally murder innocent people?
You can extract what you want from the games, on both sides. It just doesn't have any relevance.
You can extract the good parts of shooting games, like the feeling of the combat, or the competitiveness if you wish to point out the qualities of it, but anyone who enjoys the feeling of murdering people is satisfying that desire, which is the same argument made towards these games. In both cases, they are not valid, and can only be potentially true.
It's important to remember that while something can exist, it doesn't mean it has to exist.
yes the games could be used as that, likewise, playing shooters could lead to someone murdering people.
But its not the end all be all, and it certainly isn't a gateway in that sense.
I get what you mean. That was the best arc of the show.
MotionBlue
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You misspelled trolling.
Seriously. After all the Shipudden episodes with some great characters, Zabuza is still my favorite.
There was a little bit of discussion along with clear stupidity on both sides of the argument.
Regardless, I'm not on either side. I'm just enjoying this thread.
LunaticHigh
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I don't know, I'd be willing to be there are a fairly comparable number both. And there really isn't any solid factual evidence to support either side.
Infact, i'm going to scratch that, people are definitely more prone to being violent.
I'm not sure if that is actually true?
If we had cycling avatars I'm sure your avatar would cycle through all the avatars you quoted. Would have been nice
firehawk12
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She has no eyes and half a face!
Those delicious, delicious plans.
Is HidaSketch good or bad for those plans?
D3RANG3D
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This thread is mindblowing.
To judge people just because of their avatar?
Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a Call of Duty/military themed avatars as stupid dudebro folks or those little children who screamed bigoted things through XBLA. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a real-life picture of themselves as avatar as bloody narcissists. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a picture of actor/actresses as their avatar as screaming fanboy/girls.
So bloody ridiculous.
Umm it really isn't, people who shit on Western games usually have anime/manga/Japanese game avatars, the opposite is true for people who shit on Japanese games.
Dedication Through Light
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I think their relationship worked better as it was done, Naruto could easily relate to him better, and Zabuza saw Haku as a powerful weapon to use, who was, unlike most of the female characters in the series, actually competent and skilled, so it made sense in the context of the series. The arc would have fell flat if Haku was a girl.
With terms that nebulous, it could really mean anything, so it's hard to say if it's true or not.
So was I right or not?
Pop-O-Matic
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This thread is mindblowing.
To judge people just because of their avatar?
Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a Call of Duty/military themed avatars as stupid dudebro folks or those little children who screamed bigoted things through XBLA. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a real-life picture of themselves as avatar as bloody narcissists. Maybe I should start thinking anyone with a picture of actor/actresses as their avatar as screaming fanboy/girls.
So bloody ridiculous.
Considering what I've seen on GAF, this is completely accurate, save for the real-pic comment.
One thing this thread has made clear is that the only way of not being judged by the narrow-minded is having a uniform white square as your avatar. Though probably even that will be taken as some kind of statement/affiliation.
Well, to be fair, the OP lays out the appeal of the Arland games very well. It just went downhill from there.
Yes I know, but still, he looked like a girl. Great arc by the way.
TheBaronOfNA
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Let's ban Lolita, is a filthy book about a pedophile. Let's ban Stephen King's It because that
the child orgy
Also, lets ban military shooters and Mortal Kombat because they create killers
While we're on the subject, hate is not strong enough to express my contempt for your avatar and anything even tangentially related to T&E.
I'm pretty sure you're a cool guy, and I might agree with most of what you post if I could read it without being angry.
But why does the main character turn into a nude teenage girl
Theonik
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Legal age is 16 in most countries!
Being a woman doesn't relieve you of those charges! You are bound to the laws of the GAF like everybody else. You will be judged.
Crash Station
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You know you love it.
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