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Blue Dragon (Xbox360) |OT|
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MikeHaggar
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i'm about 10 hours into the game and am loving it as well. i'm not an rpg fanatic by any means, but i've played most of the "classics" and so far this game stacks up well. not sure why it wasn't as well-received as it should have been. hopefully the game will see a boost in sales over the holidays.
Psychotext
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Just got
. There's a lot more left to do than I thought there would be. 
my very own mechat
Psychotext
Member
It's not the worst... but I have seen quite a few utterly mashed up sentences and few spelling mistakes. The English voice acting is very monotone in places too.Diablos said:
That said, it hasn't affected my enjoyment of the game but it has had me rolling my eyes a few times (same goes for my other half who has been playing it with me).
B-Rad Lascelle
Banned
The voice acting & direction are fine. It's the writing that's terrible... and, to be honest, I expect that's primarily due to the localization being a literal translation from the Japanese instead of spiced up liberally with an adaptation to ensure the dialogue wasn't mindless drivel.Diablos said:
Let's face it... this dialogue in this title isn't exactly riveting stuff regardless of whether it's spoken or written down.
FateBreaker
Member
Diablos said:
Eternal Sonata's dialogue is fine in one aspect, but it's sooooo exaggerated, goes nowhere, and ends up getting play boring. Sometimes it can be interesting. Blue Dragon, on the other hand, is so elementary in dialogue, but I think this has to do with the simplicity of the plot and lack of character development. Sure, it has its moments (the end is awesome), but for most of the game, the language just didn't seem very elevated. I mean, I'm not expecting Shakespeare, but better dialogue could be seen in Gears of War. (I have fully beaten Blue Dragon, but I stopped at Ch 4 in Eternal Sonata. I *might* finish it later.)
KingJ2002
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5) Shuffled Helmet item that adjusts magical and speed parameters (Magic +40 / Speed -40). Detrimental when used by itself because the speed parameter goes down by 50 points, but when equipped along with Shuffled Breastplate and Shuffled Splint, this item can quadruplicate the Magic parameters and reverse the Speed parameters. So it becomes the strongest equipment in the game. (Magic +160 / Speed +40)
where's the rest?
where's the rest?
flarkminator
Member
Am I fucked???
I have one save game located
and I have a SECOND save game located
I've killed EVERY fucking enemy I can find in that zone but the first boss I fight
fucking pretty much one shots everyone in the back row and when he does his stupid attack that hits everybody it pretty much kills all the casters. And even if my tanks are DEFENDING he can take off like over half people's lives it's fucking stupid. I can only assume I'm not high enough level. Like I don't get it I can't even grind it won't let me warp anywhere, and I can't leave this zone and the god damn enemies won't respawn...sooo.
My guys are all level 23 (I'm playing on hard mode but seriously wtf this isn't even fair)
I have one save game located
when you first get to castle jibral, and they won't let me out of town
just after that on Nene's ship
the guy with guns
My guys are all level 23 (I'm playing on hard mode but seriously wtf this isn't even fair)
KingJ2002
Member
i beat the game... man... i liked the ending... im glad i bought this game... the 360 needs more games like this. i didnt max out everyone (just kluke and shu) but now with a second playthough i can enjoy the game without worrying about grinding hard.
yep... i recall you needed to be on level 50 to put up a fair fight with the game on ultra hard mode.
flarkminator said:
yep... i recall you needed to be on level 50 to put up a fair fight with the game on ultra hard mode.
Psychotext
Member
I thought that was for impossible mode?KingJ2002 said:
Haha,flarkminator said:
Oh god it was so fucking hard!
I switched that new girl to White Mage and my Kluke to White Mage as well and Jiro to Black Mage, Shu is a Swordsman with high Guardian and Marumaro was a Monk with Magic Sword. Jiro should have enhanced item and double item equipped for double rezzing, be warned though there are 4 more bosses in the dungeon so use spells as much as you can. Put your whole team into one row, Jiro had support magic; he was casting wall on my whole team. It only gets worse from there though mate, I am still stuck in that dungeon...
The new girl needs as many MP+ accessories equipped as you've got. Shu needs all the Defence you can give him, Kluke needs extra Magic Attack and Jiro needs Extra HP. Jiro is your first priority for rezzing as he can rez twice in a single turn and protect the whole team from damage as well as casting for massive damage when he's not buffing, the new girl should be casting Zephyr most of the time. DON'T ATTACK WHEN THE ENEMY IS IN GUNMAN MODE! Just keep Shu and Marumaro attacking with (charged) magic sword and Kluke nuking him, Jiro needs to keep your team from being damaged and in emergencies healing, the new girl should be healing always.
I killed him with 1 character left and no phoenix wings or talons left, 12 hp, 0 MP. It will be tough.
If you do want to grind though, there is a tunnel with an alarm that spawns enemies. I didn't grind but you're free to do so, I doubt it will help much though.
flarkminator said:
I had a similar problem way earlier in the game. You know where you first find that drill machine before the ruined hospital and that machine boss that goes on and on about its treasure and shit. I tried to beat that thing about 7 times. I was playing on Hard mode and was level 9. The enemies didn't respawn and I thought I was completely fucked. After about the 6th try and going through over 10 phoenix talons, I finally beat him but it officially killed any of the fun that I was having in the game up until that point. It wasn't even about strategy. It was all about luck. The battle probably lasted close to 20 minutes.
For the end of Disc One you need to buy a heaping crapton of potions for Hard Mode. Grind as much as you want to, but death is going to come frequently on the boss gauntlet. The gun boss was rather hard but you just have to play smart. The fire boss is bad too unless you picked up all the good fire resist gear and dispersed it fairly equally.
Also, FEAR AND AWE...
Also, FEAR AND AWE...
flarkminator said:
No you're ok, I was at the same spot. You need to get up to level 25-26 and you should be able to defeat the bosses with a little luck.
In order to level, go find one of the lasers, and trip it to trigger the alarm which releases a Robot. Just keep triggering the same alarm, until you get to level 25 or so.
It's boring as hell, but pretty rewarding when you finally do take em all down...
Cool. I was just about to ask about sidequests; where can I go? I'm right at the beginning of Disc 2.Brandon F said:
So what jobs did you guys give everyone?
Here's what my party looks like:
Shu
Primary Job: Monk
Secondary: Nothing, lolz
Jiro
Primary Job: White Magic
Secondary: Barrier Magic
Kluke
Primary Job: Sword Master
Secondary: Guardian
Marumaro (ftw)
Primary Job: Black Magic
Secondary: Support Magic
Zola
Primary Job: Assassin
Secondary: Generalist
This game is SO AWESOME. This could have been a Final Fantasy back in the PSX days, or even PS2 days, before Square completely lost their minds.
Joei
Member
I just got this game this past week. I'm about 10 hours in, shortly after the 2nd Sheep village, (I spend a lot of time just running around, messing with stuff, screwing around with the classes, etc.) and I have to say this game is awesome! The music is freaking great and the visuals are amazing. The battles are surprisingly fun and when you get party combos you can even throw in a little strategy with attacks. This was definitely the RPG I needed!
flarkminator
Member
Thanks for the replies.
I dunno I put the game aside. I was afraid I'd have to grind on the alarm bots, but I guess that's my only option right now.
This game has been REALLY really really awesome up until this point. I mean all the fights were tough but FAIR. And everything was really strategic, I mean usin every skill in your repertoire. But MAN this guy is rape city!
I'll give it a shot this weekend and just grind for a few hours =(. Too busy with work to play during the week haha. =(
I dunno I put the game aside. I was afraid I'd have to grind on the alarm bots, but I guess that's my only option right now.
This game has been REALLY really really awesome up until this point. I mean all the fights were tough but FAIR. And everything was really strategic, I mean usin every skill in your repertoire. But MAN this guy is rape city!
I'll give it a shot this weekend and just grind for a few hours =(. Too busy with work to play during the week haha. =(
Psychotext
Member
Regarding barriers...
Any other lists anywhere? It's driving me nuts.
Try as I might I just can't find the last green one. The list I have and my confidence I've checked them:
Lot Wilderness West - 75% it's a big place but I see no chests I haven't opened.
Forest of the dead - 100% I think this is the wall one with the chest behind it.
Gul Mountains Caves - 100% Recall specifically opening it and been back to check.
Alumaru Village - 100% It's the one by the shop.
Wire Highlands - 100% Went back to check, I know I opened a red and a green here.
Flesh Eating Forest - 75% I've been through the place a number of times, can't see anything.
Lot Wilderness West - 75% it's a big place but I see no chests I haven't opened.
Forest of the dead - 100% I think this is the wall one with the chest behind it.
Gul Mountains Caves - 100% Recall specifically opening it and been back to check.
Alumaru Village - 100% It's the one by the shop.
Wire Highlands - 100% Went back to check, I know I opened a red and a green here.
Flesh Eating Forest - 75% I've been through the place a number of times, can't see anything.
Any other lists anywhere? It's driving me nuts.
Psychotext
Member
Bah, I need maps / pictures or something. I suck. :lol
Does this help? ...
For the 6th Green Barrier (the one in the Forest of the Dead), after removing the Barrier you need to insert the Epistle of the King (found in the Exile forest) into the chest. Then take what is inside the chest and that should complete the Green Barriers for you..
Psychotext
Member
Roxas said:
I picked up the crown of the king ghost which I think is behind this one. Maybe I should concentrate on this lot wilderness thing.
[Edit - Nope, I definitely have this one: http://www.bluedragon-360.net/walk/018.jpg - Flesh eating forest is last option.]
[Edit - Nope, I definitely have this one: http://www.bluedragon-360.net/walk/018.jpg - Flesh eating forest is last option.]
Psychotext
Member
Got it! Ended up having to draw myself a map of
. Thanks all.
Ended up having to draw myself a map of
Devour forest
Griding is for pussies, switch everyone but Shu to mage and just keep attacking. All the bosses will attack your party no matter where they are so put them all on the front row and keep using Wall on your whole team. If you don't have a Barrier mage then you're screwed.flarkminator said:
Psychotext
Member
Oh wow... I should really read manuals sometimes. 60 hours in and I only just found out I could change which char I see running around the map. :lol
Diablos said:
it's something that's done on a lot of 360 games. i'm pretty sure the dithering only occurs on things that should be alphablended (semi-transparent). it's a performance thing to allow you to have a lot more alphablending on screen. if you're playing at any normal distance from the tv in a high res mode, it's not typically noticeable.
i think Saints Row and VP were among the first to really use this a lot.
Psychotext
Member
Finished this tonight, awesome.
Just beat King Poo and Gold Mecha Robo too, not as hard as I was expecting though King Poo was a close fight at the end because I screwed up a move.
Plus the Toripo easter egg at the end there... I don't know why but I just had a feeling something was hiding at the back!
Just beat King Poo and Gold Mecha Robo too, not as hard as I was expecting though King Poo was a close fight at the end because I screwed up a move.
I will try updating soon. Thanks for the info.
Ok, so I just got
and now I'm wondering what to do. Seems like there are a lot of sidequests, but which ones are worth it and how do I
Ok, so I just got
teh AIRSHIP!!!!!
trigger an event that lets me get to Nene so I can kick his ass once and for all?
FateBreaker
Member
Bebpo said:They are all worth it.
Have fun! You're at the best part of the game
he speaks the truth. I am not one to "complete" RPG's, but, man, it's just so rewarding in this game.
Hurry up Lost Odyssey.
Diablos said:
I really found it nice how the game sort of pinpoints all of the endgame sidequests on the pause map. Or at least all the places of 'special' interest. There are a few other more subtle sidequests that may require a faq to discover(like recalling where all of the colored locked chests were), but unlike say...FFX's infinitely horrible optional quests, Blue Dragon has a very pleasant...dare I say 'tactful' approach to presenting them to the player.
I will argue that some of the bonus quests are pretty meh though; nice rewards, but pretty bland dungeons.
Oh and be prepared for visual OVERLOAD when you feast your eyes on the area the final dungeon inhabits.
Psychotext
Member
Yup yup yup.Brandon F said:Oh and be prepared for visual OVERLOAD when you feast your eyes on the area the final dungeon inhabits.
Ok, I'm at the final dungeon -- this place is confusing as hell.
The door that's kinda black/purple, where Jiro says "omg this doesn't feel right!!!!" -- do I have to go through that, or is it optional, because I already got another key, and I can't find the friggin' door!
This game is NOT super easy. Yeah, it's not as hard as some classic jrpg's I'm sure, but it does have a fair amount of challenge. It is most certainly not a "beginner's RPG".
The door that's kinda black/purple, where Jiro says "omg this doesn't feel right!!!!" -- do I have to go through that, or is it optional, because I already got another key, and I can't find the friggin' door!
This game is NOT super easy. Yeah, it's not as hard as some classic jrpg's I'm sure, but it does have a fair amount of challenge. It is most certainly not a "beginner's RPG".
Psychotext
Member
Diablos said:
If I recall correctly you have to backtrack past that door to get to the one your key will open