broncobuster
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I know. In fairness, these people weren't alive when that Ghostbusters came out, and certainly not when the cast was on SNL.
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I know. In fairness, these people weren't alive when that Ghostbusters came out, and certainly not when the cast was on SNL.
Friday 2009 was actually a decent commercial success. It pulled in $91 million WW on a $19 million budget. I imagine they skipped a sequel for another reboot (ugh) because the legs on it were horrible. Same goes for Nightmare, though that was less successful ($115 mil pull on a $35 mill budget).
The other three are part of Sony's 80s reboot cinematic universe. I forgot they rebooted The Karate Kid in 2010. IIRC that's their only success so far.
BronsonLee
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Yo Karate Kid made a SHITLOAD of money
Jackie Chan is bulletproof
Jackie Chan is bulletproof
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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alfredofroylan
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BronsonLee
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ViewtifulJC
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they did all that shit moving the Karate Kid movie to China with Jackie Chan...and they didnt release the movie in China????
The Karate Kid isn't exactly an effects heavy spectacular.
remember the one with hilary swank that had tv movie production values
abolisher6812
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It's a shame about Star Trek as I thought the movie was fantastic. I would like to see Paramount put a UHD box set of the 3 movies together and bundle them with 4K TVs for this holiday season.
tkscz
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Both GhostBusters and Robocop am sad.
On another note, why is Sony doing all these 80's reboots?
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What the hell? They also did Total Recall, which also bombed
I think Into Darkness ruined the momentum the Star Trek series had going, along with the long time inbetween the sequels. The first one had many people excited and it delivered for the average joe, but the second one just didn't fare all that well.
I agree with this. GB is kind of it's own thing in many ways. Just comparing it with the usual American comedy does the potential of GB short, I think. Though I do agree with the notion that GB isn't a Star Wars or even Jurassic Park kind of blockbuster series warranting (multiple) films with massive budgets, I think the box office numbers could've been a lot higher with a different approach (and, offcourse, having a film with great overall reception/word of mouth).
I agree with this. GB is kind of it's own thing in many ways. Just comparing it with the usual American comedy does the potential of GB short, I think. Though I do agree with the notion that GB isn't a Star Wars or even Jurassic Park kind of blockbuster series warranting (multiple) films with massive budgets, I think the box office numbers could've been a lot higher with a different approach (and, offcourse, having a film with great overall reception/word of mouth).
VistraNorrez
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It's more in the Horror Comedy genre than Sci-Fi Comedy. And the Horror Comedy genre does not light up the box office. The biggest success in that genre was the original Ghostbusters at $242 Million. Ghostbusters II made half as much money ($121 Million), and that was 5 years later. You can talk about the success of the cartoons but they are still cartoons and old ones at that. They mean little to today's audience. Really, no one should have expected a reboot to do anywhere near the original. $150 was probably going to be it's max domestic take no matter how good it was. A sequel or soft reboot would have done better because it could rely more on nostalgia.
OK, Horror Sci Fi Action Comedy.
I feel you, though. As I've said in my first post on it here, it was never going to be that big of a success even if they did soft reboot with great marketing. Just treating it as a "comedy that shouldn't have been given that big of a budget" is very disingenuous on what a new Ghostbusters would set out to do, what studio expectations are like, and how blockbusters are made. Sony clearly wanted this to be a big hollywood tentpole movie and treated it as such. In that regard, it failed.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I can confirm that Tarzan increased
Pretty wild that Beyond had that good of an opening in the scheme of things. I really hope Paramount doesn't back off from that announcement of ST4.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Ghostbuster is beat for beat an action movie with a comedy angle towards its performances.
"horror" or "comedy" is a genre marker. Genre does not relate to the structure of a story / script. ALIEN could just as well have been a musical comedy for all you care (Hello my baby! Hello my darling! ), or a costume drama (check please! ). It isn't those things, because it is an action sctructure with a horror angle (or style / genre).
Read the Max Landis pitch for a third movie if you don't buy my word on this. Beat for beat, Landis describes an action structure. But I'm sure he's just an idiot who gets scripts sold, right?
"horror" or "comedy" is a genre marker. Genre does not relate to the structure of a story / script. ALIEN could just as well have been a musical comedy for all you care (Hello my baby! Hello my darling! ), or a costume drama (check please! ). It isn't those things, because it is an action sctructure with a horror angle (or style / genre).
Read the Max Landis pitch for a third movie if you don't buy my word on this. Beat for beat, Landis describes an action structure. But I'm sure he's just an idiot who gets scripts sold, right?
BronsonLee
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Are you saying that Beyond is the Tokyo Drift of the Star Trek series?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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You're the guy who bids $1 more.
Mr. Pointy
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140m OW, $375m final for Suicide Squad.
It might be more comparable to the Mission Impossible franchise. 3 brought the franchise back after the disappointing second one, it did okay but not great. 4 and 5 were the real money makers in that franchise.
BronsonLee
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You shut up swiss
Tokyo Drift is ass
3 wasn't very good while 4 and 5 were definitely a huge jump up in quality. MI4 would be like Fast Five a bit.
ElBoxyBrown
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Tokyo Drift is the best live-action Initial D movie.
FTFY
Mr. Pointy
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Rogue Nation being F&F6 makes sense. MI6 needs to add more Family©* and Tom Cruise doing insane shit to get its box office past that $700m mark.
*Copyright NBC Universal/Original Film/One Race Productions/China Movie Channel 2001
ElBoxyBrown
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I can't let you all tarnish 3 like that. Lucas Black worked hard to speak Japanese with his country accent.
BronsonLee
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FTFY
I mean if you think about it, F&F has no right being the blockbuster franchise it is now
Minority ensemble starring cast
Based on a stupid drag racing movie from 2001
That was a remake of fucking Point Break
And yet here we are
Freeza Under The Shower
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so not me. I thought SS would do rather poorly.... :\
Considering what's coming out in August, it would probably do the best in that month, or at least good enough.
Rock's shitty return championship run is only eclipsed in the awful inverting camera Rock Bottom in Fast 7
Well it's still tracking over 100 million OW and not everyone reads review so there's still a chance.After today's reviews I am going to guess that Suicide Squad doesnt get that 5 weekend run at #1
Secret Life of Pets hits $300M domestic today.
What?
Feig's Ghostbusters film is a comedy. Both of Reitman's Ghostbusters films are comedies.
Are you seriously placing these films alongside Die Hard?
C'mon.
Unproduced pitches are proof of nothing. It's like saying I drew a picture of a UFO thus aliens are real.
Possibly. But I have a feeling that Suicide Squad, more so than BvS, will probably the one true 'critic proof' film we get this summer.
The terrible people who will be dressing up as Harley Quinn and Leto's Joker for the next ten years will go and see this film regardless.
Staying #1 for all 5 weekends depended on good (for a comicbook film) weekend drops. I cant think of any poorly reviewed comic film that ended up with good legs.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Suicide Squad theater count is on BOM: 4,255.
20th widest release of all time, and more theaters than BvS or Civil War got. Make of that what you will.
20th widest release of all time, and more theaters than BvS or Civil War got. Make of that what you will.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You talk as if a minority ensemble case is a negative, when that's never been proven to be case. There's plenty of bankable minorities in hollywood and there would be plenty more if hollywood producers and directors, removed their heads from their respective asses
BronsonLee
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Quick, name a real good one besides F&F that's hit 700mil plus. It isn't a negative, but F&F is the one that sticks out, and it took a while to get there.
Don't put words in my mouth too please, I said what I said, don't extrapolate further
Secret Life of Pets is officially over $300M domestic. To the surprise of no one, Universal announced a sequel for 2018. I don't see how Pets misses $340M at this point, so expect it to pass Zootopia domestically in the next few weeks.
Dory should be pretty close to passing the Phantom Menace domestically after this weekend.
Dory should be pretty close to passing the Phantom Menace domestically after this weekend.
unknownstranger
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Nice. I ended up enjoying Pets a little more than Zootopia but it came at a really awkward time for me (we had our cat we've had since I was 3 put to sleep a week later).
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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So we're about an hour away from the first previews starting on the East Coast. Suicide Squad is at 61% on movietickets.com and has hit 300k tweets for the day, according to boxoffice.com. Any last predictions people feel like making? Reviews and Olympics be damned, I think it's going to get very close to BvS's opening weekend.
I said $150m months ago but that was with the caveat that a BvS style critical implosion could muddy up the waters and bring the number down.
Well..., the film had a BvS style critical backlash but I'm still going with $150m domestic and I'm also going to say that the film sets some new opening records for August in some foreign territories too.
I think teens are going to be all over this and the critical reception isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to them.
PhoncipleBone
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I'm going to give a wide range of $110-125m. It will beat the August opening record, but by how much?
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