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Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC

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Servbot24

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Jesse would do better than you guys give him credit for, the problem is that he's one of those guys who is extremely difficult to get motivated.
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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Wow this is pretty interesting. Who would think studio interference would make a scene better:

12:04 p.m.: Cranston again brings up Jane's death. The original version of the script had Walt explicitly pushing Jane onto her back when she started choking to be sure she died. Cranston says AMC and Sony gave Gilligan a note that this was too quick for an act that egregious to happen. Vince came up with a different plan, and they worked it out on the set, where Walt jostling Jesse would accidentally put Jane on her back. "The culpable moment for Walt is when he recognizes the girl could die, and what does he do then?" He loved the way the note from the network and studio made the scene better.
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100% agree that it would have been too soon for something like that.
 
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Cornballer

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Regarding Skyler:
Sepinwall said:
12:11 p.m.: A female fan from Ireland suggests she's in the minority by having Skyler as her favorite character. How do Gilligan and Gunn feel about other fans villainizing her over the "hero" Walt. (Cranston: "Did you have to use the air quotes?") Gunn says she and the writers were confused about that reaction at first, but, "In a show, you need a protagonist and you need an antagonist," and this show has the anti-hero as the protagonist, which puts the audience behind Walt. "If she becomes somebody who becomes really sympathetic and you start siding with her too much, then I think it weakens how you feel about him." She also thinks "it says some things about the way some people may see women and men, and roles of wives and husbands. But that's a very complex subject." Gilligan says the audience isn't a monolith, and have different reasons for liking characters. He cites a conversation with a writer for "Key & Peele," who told him, "People don't like characters who are powerless," and Skyler finds herself in a box, which begins after she tries to kick Walt out of the house again and he insists she call the cops on him. "People don't want to identify with powerless characters," he says.
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Sean

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Spoiler description of the new scene:

#BreakingBad premiere spoiler: Flashforward continues with bearded Walt returning to his house, which has been seized and abandoned. #SDCC

Just saw sequence from Breaking Bad premiere. "Future" Walt from S5 premiere returning to abandoned (!) White house and retrieving ricin!
 
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Servbot24

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Sean said:
Eh I'd rather they just not answer this question cause the scenario they described here is pretty far-fetched. The way it was handled in the show (no explanation) was perfect.
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It might have been neat if, in the scene where Walt visits Jesse's house and sits next to Brock, Brock had asked his mother "Why is the juice box man here?" or something like that. Of course that would have put a ton of extra heat on Walt and changed the season quite a bit.
 
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Frank the Great

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Servbot24 said:
Jesse would do better than you guys give him credit for, the problem is that he's one of those guys who is extremely difficult to get motivated.
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BannedEpisode said:
That is how I feel. He just needs to "apply himself".
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Indeed. There are a million factors that go into kids failing in HS, and innate or natural intelligence is not one of them--succeeding in education is truly a test of how motivated you are, and plenty of people of below average intelligence do perfectly fine in HS and college with the proper work ethic. Jesse doesn't have some secret talent that has come through in his meth production; he just finally has some motivation to do something with his life.

Obviously, if he had motivation in high school, he would have done well. But on the other hand, that goes for the vast majority of kids who fail . . .
 
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EBCubs03

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Sean said:
Eh I'd rather they just not answer this question cause the scenario they described here is pretty far-fetched. The way it was handled in the show (no explanation) was perfect.
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I wouldn't say it was perfect. I know some people who had no idea what was going on in that episode because for one reason or another they missed some crucial point in the narrative that helps explain what is happening (like walt looking at the plant outside in his backyard). It was also a little bit unfair because Breaking Bad hadn't really done anything like that with its narratives before that point--it usually let the audience know everything that Walt knows (everything that is relevant to the situation). All of a sudden the audience had to think for itself and the reality is a lot of people don't like that in television writing
 
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MiKeD

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So they showed Walt getting an M60 in the first episode of S5. Hank knows about Walt, but he ends up with an M60. Me thinks Hank dies, Walt gets payback.
 
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Judderman

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They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
 
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killertofu

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Judderman said:
They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
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OH MY FUCKING GODDDDDDD
 
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Frost_Ace

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Judderman said:
They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
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So much want.
 
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AlimNassor

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Judderman said:
They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
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holy fucking shit i cant wait
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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Also that scene makes me think:
Walter is gonna use the ricin on himself and go out in a blaze of glory of some sort, maybe a rescue mission maybe a general suicide mission, who knows.
 
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Dai101

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Judderman said:
They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
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Not reading any of that
 
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Game-Biz

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Dammit. You guys are making it really damn hard not to read that scene description. I'm remaining strong until someone uploads a shitty off screen youtube video of it :p
 
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NaughtyCalibur

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I read the spoiler wall and it sounds awesome. Honestly it's not THAT spoilery, but I know how GAF is with that. It sounds like something that they'll release in a preview video soon enough.
 
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Omzz

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Judderman said:
They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
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Omggg. NEED THIS NOW FUCK
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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I don't see why they'd release what's tagged there before the episode airs so those avoiding it will have to wait till then. It's a description of the cold opening.
 
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Judderman

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IGN put up a much more descriptive summary of the scene.

NaughtyCalibur said:
I read the spoiler wall and it sounds awesome. Honestly it's not THAT spoilery, but I know how GAF is with that. It sounds like something that they'll release in a preview video soon enough.
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Walt's house being completely abandoned with HEISENBERG written on the wall? Pretty spoilerish. The way IGN describes the house reminds me of the crack house Walt finds Jesse in after Jane's death.
 
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Insane Dead

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Judderman said:
They showed the whole pre-credits scene from the first episode from the first episode of the second half of the fifth season. Set after the events seen in the season five premiere, Walter is seen driving up to the White household, which has been totally abandoned. He walks through the house, which is totally empty and destroyed, and one wall spray painted with the name “HEISENBERG” on it. He goes to an outlet at the back of the house and unscrews it, taking out the poison that is hidden behind the outlet cover. As he returns to his car, he turns and sees that his old neighbor, Carol, is standing and staring at him in her driveway, holding a bag of groceries. They stare at one another and Carol drops her groceries. Right before the credits, Walter simply says, “Hi Carol."

Guys...hold me.
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I can't wait for this show to return. Only a few more weeks!
 
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