TrumanBurbank
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How come no trailer yet for S5B? What are they waiting for?
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Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC
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There's nothing wrong with disliking her but there is something wrong with calling her a bitch.
Steelyuhas
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Dean Norris has slimmed down considerably over the last few years, good for him.
I don't think there's going to be one.
metalslimer
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Agreed saying she is a bad character is fine. The vitriolic hate while praising walt comes off as weird
Cornballer
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We have a little over two weeks before the premiere. I imagine they have a few more tricks up their sleeves whether it's more of the short character teasers or a full trailer. In any case, they're getting a lot of press and buzz even without a full trailer. Having the show premiere after Comic Con and the TCA gives them some free advertising, too.
Not really, I mean who in their right mind gets upset about using an emergency credit card when you have virtually no money.
I understand lying to your spouse about cancer while concocting a plan to make meth, but worried about paying bills and being up front about it? What a grade A bitch.
killertofu
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I loled
Meh, Walt 100% decided to let him go. But the moment the guy tried to stab Walt, Walt knew he had to kill him. Even if he had let him go, Krazy 8 would have just killed him. Or kept coming back to hurt him or his family.
I call self-defense. But I get what you are saying. Still, I think MIke was the ONE time he had no reason to kill him outside of just being angry. Everyone else either died because of some outside reason or self-defense etc. That is what the poster was trying to say. Personally though, I think the writers messed up with Mike. I think Walt should have realized that Mike was the last loose end to the Hazard Pay, and should have just went out there to kill him in the first place. The way they had Walt be like: Oops, I could have got the list from Lydia was dumb dumb dumb.
And before someone says: But but but Mike would never roll on Walt. I call total BS on that. While it's true Mike is a very loyal guy (as seen by the great lengths he went with the Hazard Pay), you have to also keep in mind that MIke was invested in it more so, BECAUSE if they rolled -- he would be the first one to go down. So there was a reason why he was so adamant on being loyal to the guys in jail and making sure they got their pay. Also, Mike never liked Walt and never respected him. Walt basically is to blame for bringing down his job with his reckless behavior (and is also to blame for having all his money he saved up for his granddaughter confiscated by the feds). If Mike had a choice between spending the rest of his life in jail (and never seeing his granddaughter again outside bars) vs. rolling on Walt, I think he would do it in a heart beat. And even if you DONT agree with me, I don't see why Walt wouldn't be thinking along those lines.
Makes no sense that Walt was totally okay with Mike skipping country. Mike could have been caught at any time crossing the border, and by that point, Walt would be powerless to do anything about the last person that could flip him (well besides Jesse). I really wasn't a fan of how they executed the Hazard Pay plot. Honestly, I would have even liked it better had Walt realized that no one in jail could ID him. That Gus was smart enough so that only Mike + Victor (his top assistants) knew who his cooks were. Would make sense that none of the other workers had ever seen or talked to Walt. So the moment Walt realizes that Mike is the only reason the Hazard Pay is in play, he decides to just kill him to end that problem (and this could have been fueled by Walt's anger that Mike decided to peace out on their meth business. Would have been ruthless, and wouldn't have been as sloppy (ie. the Prison Shankings, ie. Walt going out in a field to get the list from Mike, then accidentally shooting Mike in a herp derp way).
PezDispenser
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While I've seen countless examples of misogyny wolf-crying, I don't think I've ever seen a single example of this that wasn't obvious trolling.
This seems rather arbitrary. So the determining factor in whether a faceless person on the internet is a misogynist is their choice of wording in the disapproval of a fictional character, and not the disapproval in itself? Interesting.
Well, words mean things. When you say them, you're responsible for the meanings you communicate. When someone communicates derogatory terms about a woman who does nothing wrong except wonder what her husband is up to, it's going to raise some serious red flags about that person.
I think one issue about Skyler is the fact that she's basically the obstacle in the way of Walt doing what he has to do. I mean just in terms of writing structure, I think Walt's wife regardless her personality, was always going to be seen as annoying to fans. Her constantly asking why Walt is always missing, and always being up in his face about his bizarre behavior in the context of this plot, is going to be annoying because it's an obstacle. It's hard to separate fiction to reality when it comes to character motivations sometimes. Like, would Skyler really be wrong for doing this in real life? Would she really be obnoxious for acting the way she did if this was a real situation?
I would hope most people would say NO. That she is totally justified and is a victim. That said, I definitely think there is some bizarre misogyny from certain portions of the fan base. And I've also seen fans struggle with the idea of Walt being a full on anti-hero or even an antagonist (they always want to go back to Walt being a hero/protagonist, and have a hard time accepting the character moving away from that. So they try to justify all his actions and be sympathetic with him, even when his own motivations weren't always pure).
Point being, on some level I just think it's a conflict for people within the writing (and Skyler's character takes the brunt of that). But I definitely see some really vehement reactions from some fans, and makes you raise an eyebrow.
Well, because Walt was doing it for his family. Why couldn't she understand. EVERYTHING he did was purely for his family. He sacrificed himself for them.
Or something (being sarcastic obviously). I notice a HUGE wave of hate after the I fucked Ted episode. That to a lot of people, was like the defining moment where people decided she was an evil bitch. People also forget that Walt basically was holding her hostage in her own home, and wouldn't leave.
PezDispenser
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But she's not a real person. It's not the same thing as calling a real person a bitch just for trying to figure out what her husband is up to (a description which conveniently glosses over any problems people might have with her character by the way). I think it's also important to note that an audience's reception towards a character has little to no bearing on whether their actions were moral or defensible in a hypothetical real-world comparison. Going back to the Dark Knight, if a near-unanimous group of fans and critics has communicated nothing but heaps of praise for a murderous psychopath like the Joker, then what kinds of red flags should that raise about society?
As another example, I can't stand the main character on Scrubs. I can't exactly describe why, but something about him just rubs me the wrong way, and I think he's a total douchebag. I'm sure his character didn't wind up doing anything completely terrible on the show and I can assure you that if he was a real person I wouldn't be casually slandering him on the internet, but if I call his character an insufferable jackass right now, how many red flags does that raise about my personal character? If it doesn't, then what's the difference?
As I said before, if Breaking Bad was a real life scenario there's no question that Skylar would be one of the few defensible people involved. But when it comes to fiction, I don't see any problem with people exaggerating their tastes and reactions, and I see it as just an extension of the exaggerated nature that all fiction is inevitably steeped in to some degree. There's this odd sentiment that's taken root in BB discussion where everyone is expected to react to these characters and events as if they were actually part of reality (doubly odd considering the almost cartoonishly black-comic tone of the show) and all I'm saying is, if you are so invested in the events of the show to the point where exaggerated fan reactions towards characters on internet forums are interpreted the same way as rants of hatespeech towards living, breathing people, then that could very well be indicative of a condition that's much more socially debilitating than misogyny.
Steelyuhas
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I wouldn't be surprised at a few more character teases like the one's they've released so far, but personally I don't expect a full trailer, especially considering that given the timing, Comic-Con seems like it would have been the perfect time and place to show a trailer.
Cornballer
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Yeah, the clock's ticking. As time goes by it makes less and less sense that they'd release a full one.
a secret-boss
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Got tears on my eyes. Just rewatched Crawlspace.
Such a great scene
Such a great scene
Yeah, the clock's ticking. As time goes by it makes less and less sense that they'd release a full one.
Holy crap. Skinny Pete in a suit? Now I've seen everything.
Pimpn Drop Bear
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Me either haha
My favorite 10 minutes ever spent in front of a screen.
hey_monkey
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Skinny Pete is awesome. I've always really liked Jesse's friends.
Just rewatched Dead Freight. Goddamn, you guys. Goddamn.
Just rewatched Dead Freight. Goddamn, you guys. Goddamn.
a secret-boss
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PaperFlame
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I dislike skylar because she's interfering with Walt's plans.
I watch this show to see Walt become evil and corrupt. I want to see him do terrible things because it's entertaining and fun to watch.
I understand she's a good person and what she's doing is the right thing, but it's not entertaining.
It has nothing to do with her being a female. It's the fact that she's slowing down Walt making it less entertaining.
I watch this show to see Walt become evil and corrupt. I want to see him do terrible things because it's entertaining and fun to watch.
I understand she's a good person and what she's doing is the right thing, but it's not entertaining.
It has nothing to do with her being a female. It's the fact that she's slowing down Walt making it less entertaining.
Might be best 10 minutes, but last 15 minutes of Face Off are superior. God damn that was a great finale, so satisfying, with such a great choice of music.
Black Mamba
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So you hate Hank, too?
Or is trying to catch Walt entertaining, but trying to make sure Walt doesn't fuck everything up not?
Hank is fun to watch because he is cracking the case step at a time despite the world being against it and him not having the slightest bit of actual evidence for it all. Not to mention he's hilarious and smug in a way that's comedic.
Skyler knows everything, is smug, and she's just a big NoFunAllowed.jpg
Although it's realistic, but yeah.
PaperFlame
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Hank is entertaining because he's a detective trying to solved the mystery. He's not slowing down Walt, he's trying to stop Walt and end the story.
However, Hank does gets terribly boring once he can't use his legs. He doesn't bring much to the story, and isn't very entertaining.
Skylar doesn't do much to continue the story, just slows down the action and builds character development. It's just isn't fun to watch in my opinion.
Nah, minerals are awesome.
But seriously, I find Hank's scene entertaining and Skylar's mostly boring, that's all there is to it. Breaking Bad does good cops and robber routines and amazing meth cooking montages, but I think it's pretty weak in family drama.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Sometimes I wish they gave us some juicy Walter Jr. plotlines - then I remember The Sopranos and I'm ok with not having them.
Unfortunately I spent too much time thinking about it and figured out what happened, so the finale was a bit tainted for me.
Bobby Roberts
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When the hell did people start calling her fucking "SkySky."
Jesus.
Jesus.
blame space
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I think copernicus started it like three years ago.
Indeed
I agree with this. Which is funny, because the family drama part was what sucked me in.
damn...
I much prefer her season 4 counterpart.
Yeah fucking right.
Bobby Roberts
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That should have been deaded in it's tracks like the train they robbed last season.
Cutesy-ass livejournal nicknames and this show don't really go together
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That should have been deaded in it's tracks like the train they robbed last season.
Cutesy-ass livejournal nicknames and this show don't really go together
This queen deserves the best.
That should have been deaded in it's tracks like the train they robbed last season.
Cutesy-ass livejournal nicknames and this show don't really go together
Team Waljess or Team Walsaul?
Cornballer
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killertofu
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Yeah, the clock's ticking. As time goes by it makes less and less sense that they'd release a full one.
Jesus, Skinny Pete kinda looks like a meth-ed up Walt Jr.
Good news for Netflix UK folk. We're going to be getting each episode of the final season, with only a 1 day delay after US.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/07/26/breaking-bad-final-episodes-uk-air-date-confirmed
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/07/26/breaking-bad-final-episodes-uk-air-date-confirmed
Time traveler plot spoiler alert!
ZedIndyLil
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Sheesh, I can't even remember who Pete was. I need to rewatch 5.1.
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