Baroquemantic
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I'm sure this has been posted already, but it's my first time seeing it and I can't stop watching.
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Breaking Bad - The (Beautiful) Finale - Season 5 Part 2 - Sunday on AMC - OT3
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you know lydia? that was actually brock in disguise investigating the death of his mother.
Perspicacity
Banned
They better not have sliced that pizza it's like, democratic bro
Anyone who thinks "Walt dies at the end" ruins the show probably shouldn't bother watching.
PeskyToaster
Member
That "obituary" is pretty cool. Breaking Bad has had a pretty big impact on ABQ. Good for them!It's hopefully no longer just a place where you forget to take lefts.
New theory - Walt doesn't actually die at the end, and those aren't cops, they're hired goons he sent beforehand just in case his plan didn't work. He's passing out because of how happy he is. The lotto ticket he gave Skyler isn't the real one, it points to a new location for them all to meet up. Junior just screamed at him on the phone to fool the people in the school into thinking he would never trust his dad. Next stop: Belize.
Just in case it hasn't been done yet, and I'm not sure if the link will work, but this is long overdue.
Cornballer
Member
- Sepinwall: The 'Breaking Bad' finale, revisited
Lamel
Banned
The real ending.
bigboss370
Member
Finished watching it yesterday. Wow, what a show. The entire scene where Walt breaks into his former colleagues' house is my favorite. Just total boss there. Loved the ending.
Skyler needs to rot for the rest of her life, she's the one that should have died. Walt's family betrayed him first imo. Skylar smoked while she was pregnant and now she's still smoking with the baby in the house, that just pisses me off to no end. She's the cancer! >_>
also, Flynn flipping so quickly on his dad was just odd, that transition was way too fast. Walt should have left the money to Holly not Flynn.
LOL
Skyler needs to rot for the rest of her life, she's the one that should have died. Walt's family betrayed him first imo. Skylar smoked while she was pregnant and now she's still smoking with the baby in the house, that just pisses me off to no end. She's the cancer! >_>
also, Flynn flipping so quickly on his dad was just odd, that transition was way too fast. Walt should have left the money to Holly not Flynn.
LOL
It's amazing how these never get old lol
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Very much late to this, but the Bad Breaks mixtape is not only great listening, but it shocked a legitimate lol out of me when BobaFatt dropped "Jane" by EPMD into the mix.
So good.
So good.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
I like this theory. The ending, while not exactly described as a "happy" one, was just... to perfect? In how it flowed. Everything essentially went the way as Walter White had planned it. I guess the real problem here was the foreshadowing of the M60 machine gun, the ricin, all the way down to the little mechanism walter white had manufactured. There were no surprises.
This is why Face Off is still essentially my favorite episode of the series, It just keeps on throwing curve balls at you until the very end, and the pay off was so good.
LMAO at the Kill Bill music.
Cuban Legend
Member
what if the series ended with holly watching that at age 20 or so? sad town here I come.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Who's Phonte?The Wire is Jay Z and Lost is Kanye: Phonte has thought a lot about which rappers correspond to which classic television shows
Some more at the link. These are great
One-third of Little Brother and one-half of The Foreign Exchange. He's a rapper and a singer.
Cornballer
Member
Sony put it together when they were filming the last eight episodes. It's included with the collector's edition DVD/blu-ray for the series.
You guys are surprised Walt's plan succeeded? Why? Except these final 2-3 episodes where he runs out of luck, every season before that was him outsmarting and beating everyone that opposed him. The man is an evil genius.
What they're seeing (and is basically true) is that he usually has to improvise more. Or restart plans from scratch when they go horribly wrong somehow.
I'm sure they would include some improvisation if they had enough time. The fact remains that Walt's plans rarely fail. As much as I hate him, we have to give him that.
Oh sweet. Interesting.
The Wire is Jay Z and Lost is Kanye: Phonte has thought a lot about which rappers correspond to which classic television shows
Some more at the link. These are great
The only things I've watched in that list is some of mad men and breaking bad (never finished mad men)
Even if i include close friends in my pool of family members, no one of us have watched The Wire, Oz, Sons of Anarchy, or Law and Order.
Now if you said Star Trek, Criminal Minds, Hannibal, Vicious, Game of Thrones, Seinfeld, that 70's show, malcom in the middle, family guy, south park or the like then I could agree with you.
Meh, you go on what you see. What you see is his plan going off more flawlessly than usual. They've certainly showed his plans having more problems in less time before.
I don't think it means that it was a fantasy at all, but I do think there's a deliberate sense of ease to Walt's actions in this episode and I don't think it's because of limited time.
I mean, think about the final two episodes of season 4. Where Walt's plan failed at the end of End Times and had most of Face Off to reconstruct another one. If they want to pull of improvisation, they need time to build tension, throw viewers off and then rebuild tension again. Especially when there's high stakes like a series finale.
The ease in Felina can be attributed to his carefree attitude. He accepted who he was and fully embraced what he did and enjoyed it more than usual. You can see that when he's rigging the M60 and he's exuberantly singing El Paso.
Mr. Saturn
Member
If it was his fantasy, why didn't he get to say goodbye to his son then? I mean its his fantasy so why doesn't he do that?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Because it wasn't actually his birthday, it was the birthday listed on the fake ID made for him by Robert Forster.
It's the last day he's going to live - he might as well make bacon numbers.
No answer for the switch in time?
I will answer your question anyway.
This is my opinion
Walt's fantasy is based in his own reality or he would never be able to convince himself that it were true. He had just been rejected by his son, it would have been false for him to reconcile with his son, that is why he leaves him all the money, no separate trust for Holly.
Why is it Winter in New Hampshire and September in New Mexico?
He tells Elliot and Gretchen the night before his birthday that it is "10 months and 2 days" until Walter junior's birthday. Walt's birthday is Sept. 7th, Jnr's is June 8th.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Because New Mexico is way farther south than New Hampshire? Maybe it's not "winter" there. Maybe it's early fall. There are places in the United States where snow happens a lot earlier than in other places. So even if it ACTUALLY was September 7th, the idea that it would be sunny and somewhat pleasant in New Mexico and cold and snowy in New Hampshire is in no way out of bounds.
edit: Dude- it's not a fuckin dream sequence
It's really obviously not.
Mr. Saturn
Member
Well thanks for answering, unfortunately I didn't have an answer for the supposed switch in time, though I wasn't thinking about it either, I guess I was focused more on the fantasy aspect and if its his fantasy, he should what ever he wants since its not real.
The answer you gave makes sense I guess. As the time thing I think BobbyRoberts had a pretty good explanation
That is stupid, the seasons are the same no matter where you are in the Northern Hemisphere. If it was September when Walt left for New Mexico he would have had to arrive in NH by July since he received at least 2 monthly visits.
There is no snow in New Hampshire in either July or September. It is clearly Winter, there are no leaves on the trees when he arrives in Granite State.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No, not really.
Are you actually arguing that the weather in the Northern Hemisphere is more or less the same in all instances? That being farther north, in higher elevations, doesn't affect the weather in those regions?
That's a wrong assumption to make, man. Sorry.
Beyond which - again - it's really obvious it's not a dream sequence aside from that. Like, the textual evidence in the show itself bears this out.
I am telling you seasons are the same in the northern hemisphere. It is clearly winter for all the time spent in NH. He arrives at least 2 months before he leaves. It is Winter in NH and has been for at least 2 months but in New Mexico it is September.
I certainly don't
He's an unlucky shmuck who finally attained a position that demands the "respect" he never had. I empathize.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Okay, all seasons are not "the same" in the United States. Some start earlier, and some start later, some are more severe, some are more temperate.
Also, you're predicating the idea that it's actually September in New Mexico based on Walt's birthday, based on his free breakfast at Dennys, which is based on his having his real birthday on the fake ID made for him, a fake ID that would be sort of missing the point if it had the same birthday as the person it's trying to hide.
Also, to point out how different the seasons are in regions of North America, the back half of Season 5 was actually shot in winter. Winter in Albuquerque looks a lot different than winter in New Hampshire. In fact, Winter in Albuquerque looks almost exactly, on film, like summer in Albuquerque.
It's not a dream sequence.
Of course it's a dream sequence. Walter would never order food at Denny's, as evidenced by Box Cutter when he orders nothing (!), as he's much too intelligent to even entertain the thought of buying any of that awful stuff. Ergo, he was dreaming when he ordered that food, which means he was dreaming through the rest of it too, for reasons. You're welcome.
No I am basing it on Walt's conversation with Gretchen and Elliot where he says that it is 10 months and 2 days until Walter junior's 18th birthday. The show has told us when both these birthdays occur and places the conversation on September 6th.
The shows tells us it is both mid winter and September. This can't be true so one of these must not be real. It isn't September except in Walt's mind.
Monocle
Member
Odds are you caught a mistake, you're remembering incorrectly, or you're overthinking it. Why can't you just accept that a straightforward episode was a straightforward episode? BB isn't a show that uses cheap tricks to throw off the audience.