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BREXIT MAFIA | Pro-Having Our Lynch And Pro-Eating It
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Then we could have had CCS claim to check me and Kalor check me on the same night.
I don't really see a reason not to reveal Zeemumu's 'role', after all what valuable town PR's are really left?
Yours too of course.
Also, what would the point have even been. If I'm a basic scum member playing a crazy game, I still show up as vanilla according to what Kalor said and it would seemingly go along with my claim.
I didn't check Flame because of Gorlaks flip. I was on the side of lynching Flame that day but I don't see a scenario where Gorlak chose someone else on the scum team. It's possible but I find it unlikely. Besides, he would have shown up as vanilla anyway.
You said it yourself, it's a way to "catch someone in a lie." We had a claimed vanilla
You don't know the bolded for sure, I could have lied/still be lying. Unless you do?
That's true. The though of catching him out that night never crossed my mind. I forgot that he came out and said that he was vanilla.
That's just referring to the idea of if you were scum. You could be a power role for all I know.
What made you choose the targets you did?
A vanilla cop makes a ton of sense for scum, who'd be interested in NK'ing power roles.
As for scum showing up as vanillas... Maybe there's a secret scum partner to be recruited and that's why that provision exists as part of the role?
I really don't see how it's anything but a confusing troublemaker as a town role.
As for scum showing up as vanillas... Maybe there's a secret scum partner to be recruited and that's why that provision exists as part of the role?
I really don't see how it's anything but a confusing troublemaker as a town role.
...oorrrrr
Kalor bungled his role claim because he doesn't know/care how scum would show up.
Because he's scum.
Crab was curiosity because I couldn't read his behaviour.
Ouro because of the miller claim.
Zipped because he was a blind spot for me.
Zeemumu for the same reason as zipped. Also because I had no idea who else to target last night.
I didn't bungle anything. I didn't have to mention that bit about scum. I could have just waited until someone asked me.
Just to be completely out there, what'd you get back for Crab and Zipped?
Not for Ouro or Zeemumu yet.
Poltergust
Member
Is there a point to voting for Kalor now? We are only one vote away from turboing him.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Shit, I fell asleep mid post and woke up after day ended. :/
HEADS UP
I'll apologise for two things.
1) Setting the night phase extra long (I blame Edinburgh)
2) For now setting the end of the night phase earlier.
I'm a bastard. Raise your complaints with your favourite community leader.
DAY 6 STARTS:
I will accept commands until 15 minutes before deadline.
I'll apologise for two things.
1) Setting the night phase extra long (I blame Edinburgh)
2) For now setting the end of the night phase earlier.
I'm a bastard. Raise your complaints with your favourite community leader.
DAY 6 STARTS:
I will accept commands until 15 minutes before deadline.
Guys I think it finally happened and I might be a decent mafia player after all.
Vote: Poltergust
Here's my reads list:
Lean town:
Flame
Kawl
BSB
Unsure:
Spoiled Milk
Ourobolus
Splinter
Lean scum:
Zeemumu
Poltergust
Also, I think it would be good if the other neutral survivor came forward, specially if they can assist town. To whoever you are: neither town nor scum have a reason to get rid of you. I believe that town knowing who not to lynch is of more value atm than scum knowing who not to night kill, since we're more likely to not lynch 1 scum out of a pool of ~8 than scum is to be unlucky enough to target you during the night instead of a town-aligned player.
What do the others think?
Vote: Poltergust
Here's my reads list:
Lean town:
Flame
Kawl
BSB
Unsure:
Spoiled Milk
Ourobolus
Splinter
Lean scum:
Zeemumu
Poltergust
Also, I think it would be good if the other neutral survivor came forward, specially if they can assist town. To whoever you are: neither town nor scum have a reason to get rid of you. I believe that town knowing who not to lynch is of more value atm than scum knowing who not to night kill, since we're more likely to not lynch 1 scum out of a pool of ~8 than scum is to be unlucky enough to target you during the night instead of a town-aligned player.
What do the others think?
Yep. Assuming the other neutral's wincon is the same as CCS's (and it should be), it makes sense. They'll be relatively safe since we don't need to lynch them, and scum doesn't need to NK them.
I'm assuming Kalor left mine off because he wanted a confirmed town kill since he was kinda screwed either way and his role would back him up regardless of whether or not he was town. More suspicious to leave it ambiguous after several non-ambiguous answers. Actually kinda clever.
Why zeemumu over Polter? Zee is just kinda...here, but Polter went balls-to-the-wall trying to link Kalor and me together yesterday for like, no reason whatsoever
other than that as a claimed miller they won't NK me so I need to be lynched
I don't understand most of this post. Do you think any townie is going to trust anything Kalor said about his night-actions?
My vote is also on Poltergust, but not officially.
The kill of KK does not make any sense to me. KK has previously said that they were a vanilla townie after using up their flag. To kill KK now just gives us 100% confirmation that KK could be trusted. If I was scum I'd have struck at someone whose role they don't know for sure and hope to get lucky/skilled.
The kill of KK does not make any sense to me. KK has previously said that they were a vanilla townie after using up their flag. To kill KK now just gives us 100% confirmation that KK could be trusted. If I was scum I'd have struck at someone whose role they don't know for sure and hope to get lucky/skilled.
Poltergust
Member
I agree with Fireblend. Scum would prioritize trying to kill "confirmed" townspeople or people who can help out town the most. kingkitty was basically the only person everyone agreed was town.
Drawing the neutral out is interesting. If we really do have just one scum left (which is a safe bet at this point) then it would be in the neutral's best interest to get this game to finish as quickly as possible by helping town.
I want to bring back my argument for the Thunderdome. While I picked the wrong side on who scum voted for, I am still pretty confident that all scum players funneled to one side (the ones the voted Flame_AC) based on Flame_AC's scumminess prior to that day and the lack of mobility in votes.
Drawing the neutral out is interesting. If we really do have just one scum left (which is a safe bet at this point) then it would be in the neutral's best interest to get this game to finish as quickly as possible by helping town.
I want to bring back my argument for the Thunderdome. While I picked the wrong side on who scum voted for, I am still pretty confident that all scum players funneled to one side (the ones the voted Flame_AC) based on Flame_AC's scumminess prior to that day and the lack of mobility in votes.
Poltergust
Member
Oh, and with how close the vote count turned out to be, too.
So with the remaining players, I'd rank scumminess like so:
Spoiled Milk >> backslashbunny >= *Splinter
So with the remaining players, I'd rank scumminess like so:
Spoiled Milk >> backslashbunny >= *Splinter
what happened to "if Kalor flips scum then Ouro is extremely likely to be scum?"
Poltergust
Member
You'd be right after *Splinter. =P
No. That's why he said nothing. If he had defined town and scum claims for everyone then you could easily just dismiss it all, but to say nothing on his results after saying that he had them warrants some extra thought.
And your reasoning for me is kinda...bad. If I knew that lack of activity was a scum thing then why would I do it?
That makes no sense. We don't even know he really targeted you so why would we have to think about something he probably made up on top of that. There's no extra thought needed, just dismiss everything about what he said. Unless you really do know something more?
Gotta say Splinter you might be onto something.
I don't, and he didn't. You wouldn't trust what he said because he was scum but you would know that he could see roles which would cause you to analyze his actions, or lack of action
Me Voters:
Spoiled Milk
Gorlak - Scum
backslashbunny
Poltergust
*Splinter
Kalor - Scum
Bolded are scum. Isn't it interesting that scum hasn't killed a single person from this list? Almost as if they don't want to thin the potential targets town has to choose from. In this list we have the Day 1 target (besides me) in Spoiled Milk, I find it somewhat unlikely that we were going to have lynched a scum member right off that, but maybe. Backslashbunny I've read as town for most of the game so I'd prefer to go after other targets before her. Which leaves us with Poltergust and Splinter, one of these two are the last scum in my mind.
Gorlak Voters:
Crab
CCS - Neutral Remain Voter
Flame_AC - Town
zeemumu
KingKitty
Kawl_USC - Town
Fireblend
Zippedpinhead
I would be shocked if Kawl turned out to be scum. Look at their callout of Kalor's bandwagon vote to try and save Gorlak and his play throughout the game and you have a very solid town player. I'm still me (town). This leaves zeemumu and Fireblend from the Gorlak voters as people who aren't as immediately clearable.
If the neutral survivor partner of CCS comes forward, I won't try and lynch them as it'd help us thin out our list of people to choose from. There's no reason not to come forward, we waste a day killing whoever you are and scum certainly wouldn't want to waste a kill on you.
Of course, Ouro isn't in the discussion above, but their actions speak for themself...
Spoiled Milk
Gorlak - Scum
backslashbunny
Poltergust
*Splinter
Kalor - Scum
Bolded are scum. Isn't it interesting that scum hasn't killed a single person from this list? Almost as if they don't want to thin the potential targets town has to choose from. In this list we have the Day 1 target (besides me) in Spoiled Milk, I find it somewhat unlikely that we were going to have lynched a scum member right off that, but maybe. Backslashbunny I've read as town for most of the game so I'd prefer to go after other targets before her. Which leaves us with Poltergust and Splinter, one of these two are the last scum in my mind.
Gorlak Voters:
Flame_AC - Town
zeemumu
Kawl_USC - Town
Fireblend
I would be shocked if Kawl turned out to be scum. Look at their callout of Kalor's bandwagon vote to try and save Gorlak and his play throughout the game and you have a very solid town player. I'm still me (town). This leaves zeemumu and Fireblend from the Gorlak voters as people who aren't as immediately clearable.
If the neutral survivor partner of CCS comes forward, I won't try and lynch them as it'd help us thin out our list of people to choose from. There's no reason not to come forward, we waste a day killing whoever you are and scum certainly wouldn't want to waste a kill on you.
Of course, Ouro isn't in the discussion above, but their actions speak for themself...
"if X was a scumtell I wouldn't do it!"
"aha! that's just what scum would say!"
Do you really want to waste time like this.
That's the basis for your argument so yeah
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