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Suairyu

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I think the way I deal with people is odd since I very much enjoy company and when I'm in flow I am very garrulous and conversational, but I am naturally an introvert and run out of charge after about 12 hours and need some decompression space. This weekend for instance I got home (after talking to strangers on the train for another hour following the meet), and when I got home the mrs was up so I chatted to her for another hour. But it wasn't till she went to bed that I could properly relax and take a load off. To do three days of socialising... jesus I might actually cry if I had to to that.
Oh hey, you're just like me.

The lady-duck has been around since Friday evening. She has now gone to her parents' and won't be back until Wednesday. Much as I'll the sex and waking up next to her, I'm so glad I get to just have some 'me' time now.

... unfortunately, housemates are picking me up from work and taking me to the beach, so I'll need to be social just that little bit longer. Perfect day for it though so I aint complaining. Once I get in I'll shut out the world and play some SINGLEPLAYER videogames (even playing multiplayer like L4D2 feels like socialising effort to me sometimes).
 

Mikeside

Member
The fact that you managed to be around folks for three days in a row this weekend shows that you are a social fella and an extrovert, if I'm even with my wife for three days in a row I get antsy and want to go away for a while for some solitude.

I think the way I deal with people is odd since I very much enjoy company and when I'm in flow I am very garrulous and conversational, but I am naturally an introvert and run out of charge after about 12 hours and need some decompression space. This weekend for instance I got home (after talking to strangers on the train for another hour following the meet), and when I got home the mrs was up so I chatted to her for another hour. But it wasn't till she went to bed that I could properly relax and take a load off. To do three days of socialising... jesus I might actually cry if I had to to that.

I think this is what you get as the only child of a single mother - lots of alone time in my childhood and I loved it.

It's funny you should call me an extrovert because I consider myself very introverted - only child of a single mum too! - I definitely need my alone time to recharge but its outweighed massively by how much I enjoy the company of others.

I still get a lot of social anxiety - I think a few people here (jed, musha and dean definitely) have seen me effectively paralysed in social situations where I can't seem to get a word out without having a mini anxiety attack. Terrifying at the time for some reason but I'm generally kicking myself afterwards.

I'm fairly sure it's normal but that's basically why I've always considered myself an introvert. Wouldn't an extrovert find that whole thing a lot more natural?
 

NinjaBoiX

Member
I know. I'm surprised at how bad I'm taking the death of someone who I've never met.
It was the same when Amy Winehouse died for me.

I was genuinely gutted. Not to the point of shedding a tear, but it hit home definitely.

A real cool, down to earth girl had her life cut short, and we lost one of the finest British talents of the last decade IMO.
 

Jordan

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It was the same when Amy Winehouse died for me.

I was genuinely gutted. Not to the point of shedding a tear, but it hit home definitely.

A real cool, down to earth girl had her life cut short, and we lost one of the finest British talents of the last decade IMO.

I'm not gonna lie, a tear was shed when Michael Jackson died. The guy in my eyes was a complete legend, I didnt' give a flying fuck about the accusations and whether or not he was a paedo... The guy made great music and I was genuinely gutted we lost such an amazing artist.

I was gutted when Amy died too, but I was expecting it.
 
It was the same when Amy Winehouse died for me.

I was genuinely gutted. Not to the point of shedding a tear, but it hit home definitely.

A real cool, down to earth girl had her life cut short, and we lost one of the finest British talents of the last decade IMO.

We can't be friends anymore.

You just killed our romance dead Ninja. I hope you're proud of yourself.
 

NinjaBoiX

Member
We can't be friends anymore.

You just killed our romance dead Ninja. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Yeah, but you didn't really die.

But again, I was genuinely upset at first! It was late, I fell for one of those damn duck pranks.

(Such a weird joke though, a bit morbid.)
 

f0rk

Member
Took me about five minutes of internet searches to find out who you meant. Kept finding pages for some Welsh singer! Never heard of him as it turns out, but horrible to hear of someone dying so young.

Yeah I spelled it wrong.

No more "heyyyy everybody it's tuesday" on a wednesday afternoon :(
 

NinjaBoiX

Member
Yeah I spelled it wrong.

No more "heyyyy everybody it's tuesday" on a wednesday afternoon :(
Yeah, I Google searched, and got, "died 1977".

I thought, "Man, f0rk be trippin'."

Edit: I'll check out that interview Jackben. She's a really interesting talent, very unique.
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
Amy Winehouse was talented. Yeah, she did squander her gift after briefly sharing it with the world, but for that short time she nutured it she undoubtedly had a unique voice, not to mention impeccable production (Ronson) and talented lyricists on her side. It's not even a debate.
 
Amy Winehouse was talented. Yeah, she did squander her gift after briefly sharing it with the world, but for that short time she nutured it she undoubtedly had a unique voice, not to mention impeccable production (Ronson) and talented lyricists on her side. It's not even a debate.

Yup, I love her voice.
 
"Yeah, whateva innit."

I dunno, I think she's great. Cool lyrics, funky melodies, bags of swag.

*shrugs*

I guess I can forgive you.

Amy Winehouse was talented. Yeah, she did squander her gift after briefly sharing it with the world, but for that short time she nutured it she undoubtedly had a unique voice, not to mention impeccable production (Ronson) and talented lyricists on her side. It's not even a debate.

Except it is a debate, because I completely disagree. Still, personal taste and all that.
 

NinjaBoiX

Member
"You can't sit down right,
'Cos your jeans are too tight,
Well you're lucky it's ladies night."

She just had a wonderful way with words. Similar to Alex Turner in the sense that she could imbue a sentence with a wonderful cadence and sly wit effortlessly.

Unfortunately she really went off the boil in terms of performing in the latter stages of her career, the drugs and alcohol got her good. I remember the last performance she did, she got 10 minutes in, then started cowering in fear, cried a little, then glanced at the stage manager with a look of hopeless desperation, like a little girl lost. It was heartbreaking to watch man.

But in her prime, basically while she was promoting "Frank" IMO, she was amazing.

Stronger Than Me - Live on Jools

Bonus track, because it's funk on toast:

Mr Magic

Edit: Jackben, she wrote her own lyrics. I mean, she may have had a bit of input from a ghostwriter here and there, but that's not unusual.
 

SKINNER!

Banned
It's funny you should call me an extrovert because I consider myself very introverted - only child of a single mum too! - I definitely need my alone time to recharge but its outweighed massively by how much I enjoy the company of others.

I still get a lot of social anxiety - I think a few people here (jed, musha and dean definitely) have seen me effectively paralysed in social situations where I can't seem to get a word out without having a mini anxiety attack. Terrifying at the time for some reason but I'm generally kicking myself afterwards.

I'm fairly sure it's normal but that's basically why I've always considered myself an introvert. Wouldn't an extrovert find that whole thing a lot more natural?

Seriously?... Seriously?!

You're probably the most extrovertle (probably not a word) introvert I've ever come across.

Blatantly introvert here but somewhat convinced I can break out of it. I vaguely recall Ninja perfectly describing me on Saturday night.
 

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Banned
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that the girl from Game of Thrones?
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
Edit: Jackben, she wrote her own lyrics. I mean, she may have had a bit of input from a ghostwriter here and there, but that's not unusual.
I didn't even know, I just assumed. That makes it even better. I think that a lot of people just heard the tracks they played on the radio and got sick of them which I completely understand. But her best stuff is on her LPs and I agree that during Frank she was in her best form.
 

NinjaBoiX

Member
that the girl from Game of Thrones?
Yeah.

God I love that gif. Watch her feet, she just fucking goes man, then that little swag out at the end? Genius.

Maisie is cooler than a polar bear's toenails.
I didn't even know, I just assumed. That makes it even better. I think that a lot of people just heard the tracks they played on the radio and got sick of them which I completely understand. But her best stuff is on her LPs and I agree that during Frank she was in her best form.
Yeah, I'll be quite honest, I thought the same at first. I thought she was just the quirky face and talented voice behind a marketing machine, but that girl was deceptively smart. And she was so involved with the music, not just the lyrics.

Here's a nice interview from way back:
Jonathan Ross Interview 2004
 

Mikeside

Member
Seriously?... Seriously?!

You're probably the most extrovertle (probably not a word) introvert I've ever come across.

Blatantly introvert here but somewhat convinced I can break out of it. I vaguely recall Ninja perfectly describing me on Saturday night.

Yeah I guess I come off that way a lot. Pretty pumped to hear it to be honest.

I got an introvert vibe from you but I wouldn't say to any social detriment - you just seem a very thoughtful chap
 
Yeah I'm kind of getting into DQIX now. Thanks for convincing me to keep on with it BGBW and Reknoc!
Also I've been looking at PS2 emulators. Never knew that it was that hard to dump a PS2 bios yourself. It's looking basically impossible without some discs to softmod the system to put homebrew software on it.
 

jimbor

Banned
I have to agree with ninja on the wino front. Very talented woman who became a media juggernaut. Great voice, great songs.

What do we have now? That fat, talentless bint Adele.
 

Sadetar

Member
Awesome weekend was awesome.
You need to rub it in now don't you... more salt to the wounds anyone?

I feel like I would have missed a ton of awesome things.

Oh well, my 6 days working weeks starts today so I have all the time in the world to sit in here.

A few of mine would probably be the importance of growing something in a garden, traveling abroad or generally communicating with other cultures, and writing for personal exploration and gain.
Nice answers indeed.
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I am now having a huge crush on you.
 

LukeTim

Member
As a general topic, what is one thing ye subjects of BritGAF feel strongly about that isn't video games?

Damn. I can get so very passionate about so many things.

Whilst I totally love them and the community around them, Video Games aren't the thing I care the most about.

I spend an awful lot of my mind's time thinking about Societal and Political issues, because I believe they are far more important that any individuals; since a single person is nothing without those people that surround them. I often try to visualise society in some way, and, whilst I used to think of a network with individual, distinct nodes to represent each person, I think that the best I've come up with is some sort of an incredibly complex Venn Diagram, with circles representing the metaphysical (for want of a better word) representation of an individual personality, all overlapping to represent relationships and the fact that we are not so much complete individuals as unique collections of ideas, beliefs, behaviours etc which we pick up from each other...

This is why I also think about Education and Learning a lot... because so much of what makes us ourselves is learned, rather than innate... which makes the formative experiences during our childhood so incredibly important to what sorts of people we will become, and ultimately what sort of a society we will form together.

I can certainly get very passionate during discussions of welfare, benefits, healthcare etc... Largely based on my belief in the importance of a mutually supportive and co-operative society, informed by the ideas I expressed above, rather than a Neo-Liberal, Thatcher-style individualistic, every-man-for-himself society based on ruthless competition.


...

Sorry. Possibly not the best platform for my ramblings... I just don't get that many opportunities to express this stuff. (though, my interpretation of this as an opportunity in that sense might be considered a loose one at best.)
 

Suairyu

Banned
Seriously?... Seriously?!

You're probably the most extrovertle (probably not a word) introvert I've ever come across.

Blatantly introvert here but somewhat convinced I can break out of it. I vaguely recall Ninja perfectly describing me on Saturday night.
Introvert doesn't mean someone can't be loud or the centre of attention or super social able. It just means that it's not their default state, so maintaining it - no matter how much they enjoy it - takes effort.

I can be extremely flamboyant, confident and all that. It'll feel effortless at first. But after a few hours I'll start to feel incredibly drained. I then need a "decompression" period to myself else after a few days it starts to affect my wellbeing. Reckon Jed and Mike are the same.
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
I'll be honest: given that the cause of death is being purposefully withheld, it was likely an accident involving alcohol, drugs or both. I ruled out suicide given that what I've read about his personality doesn't match that and also because he was just married a week or two ago. But I understand why some might find such speculation unsavoury. His death appears sudden and tragic. I had no idea who the guy was before today but apparently he was very influential to the giant bomb community. My condolences to friends, family and fans.
Sorry. Possibly not the best platform for my ramblings... I just don't get that many opportunities to express this stuff. (though, my interpretation of this as an opportunity in that sense might be considered a loose one at best.)
Nah don't apologise, I appreciate the response. I definitely feel you in regards to looking at humanity and society and trying to work out how we all fit and interact as individuals and groups. I have a theory about the birth and growth of an "individual core"; I think birth in that way doesn't even truly begin until adolescence, when your physical body and its chemistry is catching up with your mind. I have it written down somewhere, ill share it when I find it.

In terms of welfare and human rights I think you would find a lot of problems with the US the same as you do with the UK only about 300% worse.

Sadetar said:
Sadetar have you heard of Vine? If you have an Android or Apple smartphone you should get the app since you seem to like making your own gifs a lot. It's basically a community of people sharing self made gifs.
 

Chinner

Banned
The hordes of sword-wielding Demolition Mens would disagree with this. Maybe they've been patched and tweaked since then, but that shit was way OP and not very Demo-like at all when I last saw it.

edit - Either way, TF2 is notably a different game now compared to release. I think vanilla TF2 would be a good choice for a "history of pc fps" lp.

Yes, the demoknight is a sub-class within the demo. This doesn't undermine my argument, and even applies to those core principles that you mentioned in your original post, i.e., his outline is different to that of the demoman, his mechanics are consistent that you know his dynamics and how an encounter will play out.

TF2 now is a mostly evolved version of it's original incarnation. Yes, there are hats and new items, but the core mechanics are still solid as ever, and given more depth and even a few alternative playstyles. Melee and support classes have been really boosted so that playstyles are not just concentrated on shooting. You can still today go into the game, ignore the new weapons and still be a valuable asset to the team with the default weapons, as they still the most balanced when it comes to offensive and defensive capabilities.

I think the trap you have fallen into is playing TF2 within the class update weekends. It skews up team balance because everyone wants to try the thing that is new and shiny. Everything calms down within a week or two, and the 'natural order' returns to normal as it always does. The 'hordes' of demoknights you name is something that never happens apart from that time period, apart from from in the melee siege maps.

If you want to do a 'history of pc fps', you might as well choose TFC instead.
 

Suairyu

Banned
3DS question #x - are there any games that should be bought new rather than used? ie. do any of them come with activation codes for features/DLC etc.?

No used vs new moral arguments please.

If you want to do a 'history of pc fps', you might as well choose TFC instead.
I honestly don't think TFC is actually a good enough game. The fucking grenades ruined it. That said, I'll probably feature it as a mod for Quake for a weekend or something.

Been chatting to my housemate who knows people who do servers and stuff. Actually sounds a bit more complicated than I was hoping, but hopefully one of his friends can cut me some help and work with the idea.

edit - Just received confirmation that me telling a supplier "I want 15% discount" (I worded it more diplomatically than that, but that's the gist of it) actually worked. Just saved the production some $400, which is a lot of toffee. Right now I feel pimp.
 

Chinner

Banned
I think the way I deal with people is odd since I very much enjoy company and when I'm in flow I am very garrulous and conversational, but I am naturally an introvert and run out of charge after about 12 hours and need some decompression space. This weekend for instance I got home (after talking to strangers on the train for another hour following the meet), and when I got home the mrs was up so I chatted to her for another hour. But it wasn't till she went to bed that I could properly relax and take a load off. To do three days of socialising... jesus I might actually cry if I had to to that.

I think this is what you get as the only child of a single mother - lots of alone time in my childhood and I loved it.

it's not odd. i'm exactly the same, quite hard to find time to myself or trying to fit it around other things. i love me time, just being able to do nothing, gaf, watch a movie or play a game. just dont hav enoooooough time.

i really dislike these 12 hour nights out you have. i'm happy drinking socially and talking for awhile, but after awhile something just clicks and i'm just bored and agitated. but its rude to leave early apparently.
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
it's not odd. i'm exactly the same, quite hard to find time to myself or trying to fit it around other things. i love me time, just being able to do nothing, gaf, watch a movie or play a game. just dont hav enoooooough time.

i really dislike these 12 hour nights out you have. i'm happy drinking socially and talking for awhile, but after awhile something just clicks and i'm just bored and agitated. but its rude to leave early apparently.
That second paragraph is exactly how I feel a lot. I'm fine with a few hours and can be social in unfamiliar or boring situations for a while but unless there is something I can particularly engage with in really get sick of it after a while and want to bail or do something different.

I always try to leave early and even offer to pick my gf up later if I can just leave now and chill out at home for a bit.
 

Chinner

Banned
yeah, particularly the engaging element. i like most of the people i meet, but unless there's someone i click with or something to interact with then it gets tiresome. this is why i like just chilling at home with people, you can still drink, but you still have the added benefits of like watching a movie, playing games or whatever. it feels more natural than being at a bar and being like 'alright, girls talk to the girls and guys talk to the guys'. and you have stuff to run off.

maybe it comes down to me not being able to meet people who are 'on my level' or some bullshit. it's especially difficult in thailand where it attracts more of the party-bro traveler, and because it's so hot the default entertainment is 'lets go out and drink'.
 

Jordan

Member
Morning all, how is everybody this fine Tuesday morning?

I'm feeling like shit, overslept and was late for work (luckily, I'm the first in so nobody notices)
 
Hey - anyone know anything about Birmingham? I have a interview with a company based near 'the cube' and I have little idea of what the place is like. Looks like its near the centre of town which is good.

Whats Birmingham like as a city? I imagine a
Lot harder to get around than London?
 
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