Men_in_Boxes
is coming back on April 7th from his self inflicted ban......is this a coincidence or is it a sign?!?
The word on the street is this had to be redone because feedback from players they brought in was it sucked.
The initial Bungie talk video they put out after the trailer was describing events where if players figured out elaborate puzzles or did certain actions like a "door is locked for all players who play the game, but then this group of players found a key which then unlocks what's on the other side for all players playing the game."
This also isn't Destiny.
And not the same Bungie, almost all of the talent has left, I'd not put much faith in them these days. Its also probably their last chance before Sony pulls the plug.
Before they pull the plug? Give me a break.
No much to go on to be fair, except the reveal trailer. I quite liked the art direction hopefully they have stuck with it.
Do me a favour will you, they were once top 3 developer in the world and now they're a shell of what they were. Halo 3 is there best work by some margin and since then they've been in decline.
You've not been keeping pace with the business side of the company I see, Destiny 2 did not do well in it's last few years.
Its been going ten odd years and been one of the top GAAS earners of all time. TFS did gang busters. Sure its past its peak but that's why they have Marathon in the post.
Well, I'd argue that some elements of the original Destiny - not Destiny 2 - were actually beyond Halo. Some of that original Destiny OST was legitimately GOAT material, The Vault of Glass was unironically top tier everything, the lore outside the game is actually pretty terrific at times, and the gunplay was absolutely rock solid. The game as a whole wasn't super great, but there are really bright spots in there. But, they've been in steep decline since then, and nothing since has come even remotely close. The visionary talent behind Halo and the original concept of Destiny is gone. What's left is just what survived their deal with Activision - which cost them their head writer, their head composer, their head gameplay architect, and pretty much all of the original leadership.
I'd argue peak Destiny is as good as if not better than peak Halo. Like you say OG VOG is as good as anything they've ever put out.
You remember the layoffs? What I've said is unfortunately true, this is not the same Bungie and I was a massive fan of theirs.
Sure, unfortunate but their management has been notoriously sloppy since OG Halo. There's still a ton of talent in the trenches at the studio.
I just saw you give a thumbs up to a post basically reiterating what I've already said but yet you've lol my post's
try to keep some sort of credibility by sticking with your original thoughts.
Multitasking in a meeting at work. I love an emoji. My OG points stand regardless of which way my thumbs point.I just saw you give a thumbs up to a post basically reiterating what I've already said but yet you've lol my post's
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post that some of the OG Destiny is as good if not better than Halo.
Well if it was only that then fair enough but he went on to mention a fair few of the original talent has left. Destiny of course had O Donnell of board but to be clear Halo is his best work IMO.Multitasking in a meeting at work. I love an emoji. My OG points stand regardless of which way my thumbs point.
Edit: what are you talking about? I just liked
Oh yeah, but it will be interesting to see how Marathon turns out now alot of the upper management have been jettisoned. Might be for the best you never know.
I hope so.
Yes, the GaaS are way more successful now and they have more competition. But now they will have Sony's support regarding marketing.
Yes, they had layoffs, but also hired a lot of people. As an example, Bungie has more people now that when they signed the acquisition with Sony. Just after the movement of moving people to other teams and layoff, they had around 50 people more than when they signed the acquisition.
When SIE fully acquired Bungie turning it a 100% owned subsidiary, Hermen Hulst and other SIE staff joined their board of directors.
You say it like that means guaranteed success for GaaS games. It's almost like August '24 never happened.
Didn't some of them go to different parts of SIE?
The last new game Bungie released was almost a decade ago and Sony has a recent track record of cutting and abandoning GaaS projects, some even after release, if they don't meet their satisfactory requirements.
The odds are against Bungie at the moment, not in their favor. It's up to them to prove otherwise
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These are simple facts, if you think this is 'warrior' level stuff, maybe the problem lies within.
Do you not understand how gaas works? The whole point is to keep the game running. Destiny has been one of the most successful and long running gaas. The odds are for them not against.The last new game Bungie released was almost a decade ago and Sony has a recent track record of cutting and abandoning GaaS projects, some even after release, if they don't meet their satisfactory requirements.
The odds are against Bungie at the moment, not in their favor. It's up to them to prove otherwise
These are simple facts, if you think this is 'warrior' level stuff, maybe the problem lies within.
Bungie made some of the most successful MP shooters in gaming history, including Destiny 2 that continues being a huge hit.
No, since the moment SIE acquired the 100% of Bungie the board of directors of Bungie is their CEO, their CTO, a cofounder (Jason Jones), Hermen and (SIE's marketing VP) Eric Lempel. Nishino and the other heads of SIE divisions aren't of their board of director.
Yes, I didn't say they are under Scott Rohde. Scott is the Head of Internal Production at PS Studios (not the business group or Bungie).
If this is the case it's your issue, not mine. I'm just debating in a public forum.
