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Bus Fight: Old White Guy V.S. Young Black Guy in an Arguement Over Racism

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sunsetsf

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onemic said:
Ya, all she seemed to be doing was hating on the fact that he has become an internet meme instead of focusing on the point that he was well within his right to defend himself.



It's not about race, it's a dumbass acting like a dumbass.
Do you live in the Bay Area??
 

Onemic

Member
X-Burner said:
Actually it is about race, otherwise there wouldn't be such a huge reaction, as if it were white on white, black on black, etc.

This guy is part of a minority and makes a big deal out of nothing judging from what the old man said in the interview, yet he thinks he can attack an old man? Are you fucking kidding me? This is pure stupidity and there's no excuse for what he did.

People are trying to make it a discussion about race/racism, when it isn't. It's just about two crazy guys on a bus getting into a fight. situations like these happen all the time, it doesn't matter the race. The black guy acted like a dumbass and got beat the shit out of. If you really want to use this guy of all people to represent your race, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.

sunsetsf said:
Do you live in the Bay Area??

Nope
 

nyong

Banned
onemic said:
People are trying to make it a discussion about racism, when it isn't. It's just about two crazy guys on a bus getting into a fight. The black guy acted like a dumbass and got beat the shit out of. If you really want to use this guy of all people to represent your race, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.
The only racist on the bus - based on the video - is the girl filming. Everything else is too ambiguous to call as we don't have the dialogue that took place before hand. Frankly, it was probably a misunderstanding on both of their parts.

The video does bring an enormous smile to my face, though. At the risk of alienating myself from "young Turks" girl, dude is a hero.
 

clav

Member
Nameless said:
What you just did is bash bestiality while you're dick deep in a corpse.
What? What part did I say offended you?

I hated what Ana said. She was completely dense.

You're the dick for assuming me that way.
YoungHav said:
lol. I'm not saying thats more important. Ana usually covers celeb entertainment and Cenk usually covers politics and more serious stuff. She covers the latter in this vid and was off IMO. All this race debate aside at the bare minimum EBD was totally right in defending himself and I was disappointed in her not seeing that.

I don't know why someone who reports on entertainment would be offended by so much popularity of an internet vid. This guy is a star, and she denies it.
 

X26

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Nameless said:
What you just did is bash bestiality while you're dick deep in a corpse.

either beastiality needs to be changed to necrophilia, or corpse needs to be changed to sheep
 

S1lent

Member
That interview with EBG is hilarious and sad at the same time. The part where he's describing himself as Ali, saying that he knocked the guy out for 22 minutes, etc, had me cracking up. But when he starts crying and talks about coming back from Vietnam and being crazy I just feel sorry for him. Vietnam fucked up alot of people.
 

YoungHav

Banned
^^ this vet in my building barks like a dog at like 4am. Caught him on a few occasions. He says the dog on the 1st floor barks at him so he barks back.
 
YoungHav said:
^^ this vet in my building barks like a dog at like 4am. Caught him on a few occasions. He says the dog on the 1st floor barks at him so he barks back.

1) Video camera
2) Upload to youtube
3) ????
4) Profit ??
 

CryptiK

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Well turns out the White guy wasn't being racist to start with the other guy started it end of story.

Beard Man: You offered
Other Man: NO I said why a brother gotta spit shine your shoes

in the other video its explained that he wasn't even talking to the other guy THE END.
 

Onemic

Member
YoungHav said:
It's also explained how the black guy pulled a knife on him and punched him 3 times :lol .

The most credible person in this whole situation has to be the girl that recorded everything, unless someone can somehow get hold of that girl who was wearing the headphones. EBG clearly has some serious PTS issues, and you know the guy that got beat up would be pulling shit out of his ass if he got interviewed as well.
 

Schrade

Member
onemic said:
The most credible person in this whole situation has to be the girl that recorded everything, unless someone can somehow get hold of that girl who was wearing the headphones. EBG clearly has some serious PTS issues, and you know the guy that got beat up would be pulling shit out of his ass if he got interviewed as well.
No, the girl that recorded it is not the most credible. If you watch her interview she says a few things that aren't true (that don't mesh with her own video she took) plus she fucking stole the man's bag!

She also has a racist friend and doesn't even apologize for her racist remarks or even mentions them as far as I know.

Just by watching the original movie I had already come to the conclusion by how and what things were said that the old guy was talking to someone else (or even just talking to himself - he does seem a bit off after all...) and the black guy jumped in on a conversation already in progress.

I would even venture to guess that he jumped in on the shining shoes part to make fun of a person who wants their shoes shined. (And this does not necessarily mean going to get your shoes shined but maybe even shining them yourself)
 

freitax

Member
onemic said:
The most credible person in this whole situation has to be the girl that recorded everything, unless someone can somehow get hold of that girl who was wearing the headphones. EBG clearly has some serious PTS issues, and you know the guy that got beat up would be pulling shit out of his ass if he got interviewed as well.

I would pay good money to watch that interview.
 

YoungHav

Banned
Schrade said:
She also has a racist friend and doesn't even apologize for her racist remarks or even mentions them as far as I know.
You're entitled to your opinion on the matter but please be consistent. Why should the camerawoman apologize for the remarks of a 3rd party yet you don't hold EBM accountable for the racist remark(s) that he himself said? I mean calling dude a "cotton picking motherfucker" is a tad racist, no? Why the double standard?
 

Schrade

Member
YoungHav said:
You're entitled to your opinion on the matter but please be consistent. Why should the camerawoman apologize for the remarks of a 3rd party yet you don't hold EBM accountable for the racist remark(s) that he himself said? I mean calling dude a "cotton picking motherfucker" is a tad racist, no? Why the double standard?
She filmed and wrote up a response, Epic Beard Man didn't. He was being asked questions.
 

X-Burner

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onemic said:
People are trying to make it a discussion about race/racism, when it isn't. It's just about two crazy guys on a bus getting into a fight. situations like these happen all the time, it doesn't matter the race. The black guy acted like a dumbass and got beat the shit out of. If you really want to use this guy of all people to represent your race, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.



Nope
I'm talking about the reason why it's a big deal. I know the fight wasn't over racism, just stupidity. However the situation it has sparked has made it in to a matter of race. Understand?
 

Onemic

Member
X-Burner said:
I'm talking about the reason why it's a big deal. I know the fight wasn't over racism, just stupidity. However the situation it has sparked has made it in to a matter of race. Understand?

Ya, and all I'm saying is that it shouldn't be. There's no reason for it, but of course since it's between a black guy and a white guy it is.
 

S1lent

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onemic said:
Ya, and all I'm saying is that it shouldn't be. There's no reason for it, but of course since it's between a black guy and a white guy it is.

Uh, no, there is a reason for it. There's racial language being uttered throughout the whole ordeal.
 
Uh, what's up with EBG referring to the other guy as a murderer in his interview? And why am I the only person who seems to be wondering that? Was it just some crazy assumption, or is that actually true?
 

painey

Member
when I was in the states on the NYC subway there was this crazy old vet on the train with a walking stick with a hooked end, he kept rambling and swinging his stick and then he hooked the stick on the overhead pole and lent forward on his stick, hanging from the roof of the train. very awkward train ride. Vietnam fucked a lot of people up.
 

Enosh

Member
Calcaneus said:
Yeah, she's trying too hard to be serious business. I think she just wanted a reason to hate on the white guy more in this case.
it's young turks, the woman is probably so full of white guilt that she wants the white person be guitly in every case
 

noisome07

Banned
Ben2749 said:
Uh, what's up with EBG referring to the other guy as a murderer in his interview? And why am I the only person who seems to be wondering that? Was it just some crazy assumption, or is that actually true?

Well, we haven't heard anything about the young guy
lol
so he's probably right.
 
I feel kind of sorry for EBG. Dude is obviously fucked up for a variety of reasons. That being said, if I saw him on the bus I'd sit somewhere else. EBG is nuts and the young guy is a moron. Anyone who rides public transportation in a major US city has probably seen similar altercations at some point, the only surprise is that the old dude whooped the shit out of the young guy. The moral of the story is mind your own business when you ride the bus and don't start fights with people wearing t-shirts that say "I am a mother fucker."
 

YoungHav

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Salazar said:
There's a chance, and not a negligible one, that barking vet bites too.
LOL. It would be hard to record him w/out him noticing. He has a cane also, don't want to be a victim of a Nam vet asswhupping. The first time I heard him I was stoned and wondering wtf is going on. I thought he was gasping from a heart attack so I went to the hallways to check on him, lo and behold he's barking at the first floor dog. I was like wtf! I didn't even hear the dog bark at him first like he claimed.
 

Talon

Member
Ben2749 said:
Uh, what's up with EBG referring to the other guy as a murderer in his interview? And why am I the only person who seems to be wondering that? Was it just some crazy assumption, or is that actually true?
Epic Bear Guy is straight-up crazy. His account doesn't jive with what went down on the video.

Anyways, hard to say that there's a "right" here. The 50-year-old guy's an idiot for continuing the incident and instigating the physical violence against a clearly insane and belligerent old man. EBG clearly has problems and apparently is sort of infamous in the Oakland area.

I'm just amused that he actually used the term "chinaman." :lol

<---Korean
X-Burner said:
I'm talking about the reason why it's a big deal. I know the fight wasn't over racism, just stupidity. However the situation it has sparked has made it in to a matter of race. Understand?
This is the angle I don't understand. What the hell is EBG actually championing, Internet?
 

Dram

Member
Talon- said:
This is the angle I don't understand. What the hell is EBG actually championing, Internet?

Going by the youtube comments EBG represents disenfranchised whites desires to fight back against the minorities, they have to put up with. He's an innocent white guy who had defend himself against an uppity black guy. He's their great white hope.
 
Dude Abides said:
They already did an episode about internet memes so I doubt they would do another one.

I agree that it's unlikely. But this thing goes beyond your usual meme, with the racism involved, etc.

Dunno when the new season starts, but it's probably too late by then :(
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Dude Abides said:
They already did an episode about internet memes so I doubt they would do another one.


Was there an annoying preachy part at the end where it's explained that "memes aren't important they're just stupid ideas that don't last or matter?"

South Park's "moral of the tale" is the most annoying thing about it. He-Man was more subtle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOrMcT0Z19Q
 

Forsete

Gold Member
Awesome guy. <3

Is it true what he said about the guy who attacked him on the bus? Murderer? 10-20 years? Wow.
 

Onemic

Member
Forsete said:
Awesome guy. <3

Is it true what he said about the guy who attacked him on the bus? Murderer? 10-20 years? Wow.

No, EBG is just fucking crazy. He also said the guy pulled a knife on him in the bus and punched him in the face 3 times before he did anything:lol
 
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