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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 |OT|

Seanspeed

Banned
Terrordactyl said:
I played a few rounds of and decided it sucked compared to cod4 and sold it.
In other words, you didn't give it a chance whatsoever. You need to do more than just a 'few' rounds before you can even start customizing your loadout, which is where the real fun begins.

As far as the comparisons to CoD4 goes, I can see preferring CoD4 if you like more simplicity, but other than that, I think MW2 is much more balanced, rewarding(in terms of leveling up), and just a bit more 'personal' as the great amount of customization allows you to really play in soooo many different ways(which is something that I think causes a lot of complaints, as people are used to going up against enemies with a more limited amount of playstyles).
 
divisionbyzorro said:
I'm tempted to boycott this thread at this point, as it's turned into a bunch of crybaby, butthurt children whining about the fact that the game IW produced was not the savior of the world that they expected. Bitching about getting killed by killstreaks? Seriously? It's a different game - learn to adapt or GTFO. And all this crying about netcode - your rose colored glasses are clearly blinding you to the reality of what playing CoD4 was really like. I'll grant the complaints about care package glitching, but I'm sick of this thread turning into a bitch-fest.

There are only two things seriously wrong with this game: CP glitching and OMA-tubing. Sure, some of the maps aren't great, and some of the weapon and killstreak balance is a little wonky, but the overall game is excellent. Maybe your mom bends over backwards to make you happy every time you cry about something, but to expect the same from a video game developer simply makes you look like a spoiled child.

Ugh. Can we please quit with the incessant bitching now?

Wow, the trouble is people paid money for the game, and the game itself was actually priced a lot higher than other games are, meaning that a lot of people who didnt go out of there way to go to a sale or whatever paid a LOT of money.

I got the game half price, and for that reason I dont bitch as much, but when you have a tight budget and pay premium for a game, if that game is a bit of a mess then your going to feel short changed, the fact is people bitch because bitching will stop IW making the same mistakes with MW 3

I dont agree with bitching about killstreaks and whatever, but when the bitching is about mistakes like glitches or about matchmaking issues then yeah people who took money out of theyre pocket are well within theyre rights to complain!

consumer rights aside the game actually is pretty good, when im getting glitched I just leave the game and get put straight into another one, so yeah you can definatly deal with the glitches but its still annoying paying and then getting shunted.

OK that aside I never realised how amazing demolition is, literally get upto 5K a round on that gametype!
 

no angel

Member
I feel sorry for those of you who can't get over the glitchers and any other problems you have with this game, my friends and I are having tons of fun with it.

Jesus though the f2000 is a shitty rifle though. Shitty shitty shitty.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
corkscrewblow said:
:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((


If true, you really fucking blew it this time IW.

its true
right after i played a game of regular tdm the game went into private match and somehow i became host
edit:it happened on merc tdm
 
bobs99 ... said:
Wow, the trouble is people paid money for the game, and the game itself was actually priced a lot higher than other games are, meaning that a lot of people who didnt go out of there way to go to a sale or whatever paid a LOT of money.

You raise a good point; I forgot that Activision charged the full 60 for this on PC instead of the usual 50. It was priced normally on consoles however.
 

wud

Neo Member
had a couple of tactical knifers on domination tonight who both had worse connections than me and a mate, yet were still managing to warp commando to us

said fuck it, taught him how to do that new care package glitch and fucked the other team right over. Decided as long as these glitches exist I'm going to start using them, I can't beat people in normal gunfights anymore due to lag (killcams always back this up) so I'm going to join the masses and glitch
 

gillFTR

Member
wud said:
had a couple of tactical knifers on domination tonight who both had worse connections than me and a mate, yet were still managing to warp commando to us

said fuck it, taught him how to do that new care package glitch and fucked the other team right over. Decided as long as these glitches exist I'm going to start using them, I can't beat people in normal gunfights anymore due to lag (killcams always back this up) so I'm going to join the masses and glitch

Call me a w.e but I would of probably done the same. I hate how they were banning people for the javelin glitch...Yeah it got extremely shitty at points, but the problem was with the developers not the players. I love how IW thought they were hot shit no beta...I wondered what would of happened if they did have it(perhaps a MP that wasn't broken). Also I haven't gone back to MW2 since a month half ago, finally got pissed off that I couldn't play the maps I preferred and always seemed to put me in shitty ones. When I heard lack of dedicated servers there went my whole reason for buying it on PC, So I purchased it on the 360. Money I won't get back...Don't even get me started on the single player. I know this has been discussed many times, but sorry I needed to rant just a little bit.
 

Mileena

Banned
Nelo Ice said:
its true
right after i played a game of regular tdm the game went into private match and somehow i became host
edit:it happened on merc tdm
UGH I have such a love/hate relationship with this game. Also ever since 1.08 I've been getting signed out of PSN at random then 15 seconds later getting kicked from the match saying I lost my connection to PSN. This is wonderful.
 

Zaphyr

Neo Member
I have been getting either host migrations (that fail 80% of the time) or warp-inducing lag since the patch. In a couple of hours I've only had a few good games. Here's hoping it was all just bad luck, because it is getting really frustrating for me.

On the up side I haven't come across any of cp glitchers.
 

LM4sure

Banned
Yeah, this game is broken. I can't believe IW released the game with all these glitches! All the glitching makes the game unplayable. We're gonna be receiving fixes for the next 6+ months. I'll probably sell this game now.
 
LM4sure said:
Yeah, this game is broken. I can't believe IW released the game with all these glitches! All the glitching makes the game unplayable. We're gonna be receiving fixes for the next 6+ months. I'll probably sell this game now.
To be fair, the game probably isn't really that much more glitchy than most online shooters out now. The problem is because of its popularity, there are many millions of players running through all the possibilities which can be created through the game, inevitably leading to many more bugs being found.

I can guarantee that if you add millions of people to any lesser played online game out there then it's going to suddenly seem a lot more buggy.
 

Sealda

Banned
[Whine]
Game was more broken than ever tonight. My clan played a lot of SnD skirmish and TDM every other match there was a host migration were half of the players got kicked out. Also, you could feel something was not right, small things happened all the time. Obvious shotgun shots that was supposed to hit never got registered. etc. The weirdest thing: 90% of the players had 4 bar yellow. [/Whine]

One funny incident happened when we played another party, they started arguing and fighting in the chat during SnD. One guy was a total douche and yelling and cursing at a guy (who had a mic) who went 0-4.

Am i the only one thinking SnD in MW2 is too "flip a coin" ish? For instance SnD on Favela. Its almost impossible to actually play good straight through. There is so much hiding and ambushing going on. You can go 9-1 but you can also go 1-9. Its like a lottery wether or not you or your enemy takes the right or wrong route.

But maybe i have played SnD too little in MW2 but it feels like in COD4 it was way more scripted how everyone ran in SnD. The whole pre-nade segment was a science in its own.
 

Scarecrow

Member
Man, you guys may complain about all the glitches with the game, but I'm still having a blast. I just discovered to joy/despair or HC TDM. It's pretty neat. My HBS is a must, now. I just can't seem to be put into a match when the team is winning.
 
Terrordactyl said:
I really don't know why you even botherd in the first place, I just hope you didn't have to pay much for it. The single player is shit and it never gets better, the MP I played a few rounds of and decided it sucked compared to cod4 and sold it. It wasn't a bad game, but it was not any fun either.

I didn't pay a penny for it. I just borrowed it to one of my father's friend (!) along with Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising. Such crappy fps... CoD WaW is not even pop corn fun. It's just boring. OF: DR is pretty intense due to long range gunfight (100 to 300 meters away) but the game is just full of bugs, terrible game design, mecanics, IA, everything... it's nothing but fustrastion to play.

I miss MW1&2 solos... yeah, I'm lacking of good fps experience that much.
 
Scarecrow said:
Man, you guys may complain about all the glitches with the game, but I'm still having a blast. I just discovered to joy/despair or HC TDM. It's pretty neat. My HBS is a must, now. I just can't seem to be put into a match when the team is winning.

I will never understand why people don't roll with a cold-blooded and ninja class. Except for Sitrep levelling, there is no reason to roll with anything else in Hardcore modes.

I've been in only one match where we got a UAV and it showed: nothing. The other team was a clan, obviously.
 

kuYuri

Member
Everyone who keeps saying "I'm going to sell this game anyway!" just fucking do it already and save the rest of us some posts.
 
corkscrewblow said:
UGH I have such a love/hate relationship with this game. Also ever since 1.08 I've been getting signed out of PSN at random then 15 seconds later getting kicked from the match saying I lost my connection to PSN. This is wonderful.
You can stay in the game by signing back in through in game XMB.
 

Raide

Member
Pkm said:
Heres what I want in DLC..

1. A shotgun that shoots Knives
2. Rocket Boots
3. Ability to become Neo from the Matrix
4. Nunchuks

As for number 3, do you want the 1887's back to the old style then? :lol
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
i just ended my 3rd prestige with a bang :D

got my 11th nuke for the hell of in tdm on rundown well that and my cousin wanted to see me get one
went 37-1 with the 1 being the nuke death :lol

was my most dominating nuke yet since my claymore killed 2 ppl getting my harrier then my cousin launched his uav which got my harrier 4 kills with its airstrike that completed the carpet bomber challenge for me
 
Compared to the past CODs this game is a breeze on veteran. I ran through 3 levels only dying once. I never did anywhere near that good in COD4, WaW, or COD2.
 

Nizz

Member
tarius1210 said:
Not anytime soon.

I don't know whether I should try and fix it myself or send it to Sony. I figure during this time I would get some use out of my 360 (I bought it in November). I barely use it.

Did u have the 60GB SKU?
Yep, 60g one. I bought it back in June of 07. I should be getting a slim replacement this week. I think Wednesday.

What worries me is all the talk of PS3's freezing after this latest patch. I also just remembered that I never backed up my saves for MW2 before the 60g died. I know I can activate my account on this new one so Trophies should be cool.

But all my progress will be gone. I had completed up to Hornet's Nest on Veteran. I could just continue from there but me being OCD about things, I'll probably start from scratch again. :D

At least you have a 360 as backup. ;)
 

J2d

Member
corkscrewblow said:
UGH I have such a love/hate relationship with this game. Also ever since 1.08 I've been getting signed out of PSN at random then 15 seconds later getting kicked from the match saying I lost my connection to PSN. This is wonderful.
Yea I've lost a couple of good killstreaks while login in again during matches, frustrating.
 

ultim8p00

Banned
What really pisses me off is that the game is actually so much fun and addictive. But my god the bullshit you have to put up with to finally find a game where you are in your element. I really think the way killstreaks are setup are what's ruining the game right now. They are just TOO prevalent.
 

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
wud said:
had a couple of tactical knifers on domination tonight who both had worse connections than me and a mate, yet were still managing to warp commando to us

said fuck it, taught him how to do that new care package glitch and fucked the other team right over. Decided as long as these glitches exist I'm going to start using them, I can't beat people in normal gunfights anymore due to lag (killcams always back this up) so I'm going to join the masses and glitch

some of you guys use the care package glitch in retaliation for losing? omg fuck you guys. seriously. "killcam proved it wasn't my fault so I'm gonna just fuck the game up for everyone". are you serious? why didn't you just bail out? was it the other player's fault that he killed you? you blame someone else's connection, you blame IW netcode, how about blaming yourself ffs? or maybe its just that your connection was having a crap moment. Are you some kind of net specialist or program developer who knows exactly what the fault was with your shit performance?

disappointed in you and anyone on gaf who glitches, especially since you've all probably bitched about it for weeks. I don't even know how to do the damn glitch.

I had games earlier where I got owned, I fired about 5 intervention shots into one guy who failed to go down, no idea why, maybe his connection, my connection, hosts' connection, maybe I was wrong and I missed by a fraction everytime. I got angry but I just changed class and tried to find another solution to my bad game, I didn't glitch in an attempt to teach the guy a lesson and ruin the game for everyone. what a loser honestly.
 

dewm tew

Banned
ultim8p00 said:
What really pisses me off is that the game is actually so much fun and addictive. But my god the bullshit you have to put up with to finally find a game where you are in your element. I really think the way killstreaks are setup are what's ruining the game right now. They are just TOO prevalent.

cold blooded

youre welcome
 

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
I don't see the point of using cold blooded in hardcore mode, the radar is barely up and we don't have labels above our heads anyway. Only reason to use it is for when people have a UAV killstreak.

Would rather use that perk slot for something else tbh. hardline, danger close and lightweight would make more sense in hardcore mode. cold blooded and stopping power, not so much. No idea why everyone insists CB is a must for hardcore mode.....

I've started to realise how much I rely on my pro perks and other equipment, esp cold blooded pro and silencers to keep me hidden (on non-hardcore matches!). claymores also became an essential part of my game. I'm doing quite well score wise but it feels like I'm just waiting for the game to begin properly i.e. when I get all my shit back!
 

th3dude

Member
I want to like/use the UMP, I really do, but I can't seem to get the hang of it.

I always go back to an AR instead, but I keep reading about how awesome the UMP is, especially silenced.

I'm no good with iron sights, so I've been using Bling Pro to use a sight with the silencer (red dot), but it makes me miss my Slight of Hand Pro.

Any advice on a good UMP setup? When I'm on with it, it's awesome, but I just can't seem to get the hang of it.
 
Cold Blooded is only as good as you are getting away from teamates without it.

How many times has a chopper gunner/AC130 killed me while I was CB and had a teammate a few few away from me....too many.

Better yet try spawning with CB on when a Chopper or AC130 is around, the other 2-3 guys without will be sure to spawn with you.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
care packages must love me since i just got 3 straight chopper gunners

ive also had 2 pave lows and a stealth bomber already :lol
 

dewm tew

Banned
Pkm said:
Cold Blooded is only as good as you are getting away from teamates without it.

How many times has a chopper gunner/AC130 killed me while I was CB and had a teammate a few few away from me....too many.

Better yet try spawning with CB on when a Chopper or AC130 is around, the other 2-3 guys without will be sure to spawn with you.

nothings perfect

also not caring about your k/d ratio is pretty liberating
 

Az

Member
Pkm said:
Cold Blooded is only as good as you are getting away from teamates without it.

How many times has a chopper gunner/AC130 killed me while I was CB and had a teammate a few few away from me....too many.

Better yet try spawning with CB on when a Chopper or AC130 is around, the other 2-3 guys without will be sure to spawn with you.

You have to be smart about it. I have a class set up just for shooting down aircraft with cold blooded and ninja.
 

CozMick

Banned
Ok Gaf I'm about to make a game changing decision........

I've Mastered pretty much every AR in the game, I've NEVER used any other weapon since the game launched and my kd/r is 2.42, but I've hit a wall..........the game just ain't fun anymore.

So, do I sacrifice all that time and "hard work" and start experimenting with crazy loadouts but sacrificing my kd/r and get laughed at by my friends BUT have fun while I'm doing it?

or

Continue on the road of success with my trusted M4A1, M9, Harrier, AC-130 and Nuke but feel a little more empty inside every time my kd/r rises 0.01?
 

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
sn1pes said:
I want to like/use the UMP, I really do, but I can't seem to get the hang of it.

I always go back to an AR instead, but I keep reading about how awesome the UMP is, especially silenced.

I'm no good with iron sights, so I've been using Bling Pro to use a sight with the silencer (red dot), but it makes me miss my Slight of Hand Pro.

Any advice on a good UMP setup? When I'm on with it, it's awesome, but I just can't seem to get the hang of it.
I couldn't get into the UMP until I was forced to use it after the prestige and I tried it on hardcore mode, it was awesome and I think it finally clicked with me. I suggest you try that. Seems to down people so easily on hardcore. UMP was downing people from miles away, helped me use it in other modes as well, but it's definitely not as good on non hardcore
 

wud

Neo Member
kaizoku said:
some of you guys use the care package glitch in retaliation for losing? omg fuck you guys. seriously. "killcam proved it wasn't my fault so I'm gonna just fuck the game up for everyone". are you serious? why didn't you just bail out? was it the other player's fault that he killed you? you blame someone else's connection, you blame IW netcode, how about blaming yourself ffs? or maybe its just that your connection was having a crap moment. Are you some kind of net specialist or program developer who knows exactly what the fault was with your shit performance?

disappointed in you and anyone on gaf who glitches, especially since you've all probably bitched about it for weeks. I don't even know how to do the damn glitch.

I had games earlier where I got owned, I fired about 5 intervention shots into one guy who failed to go down, no idea why, maybe his connection, my connection, hosts' connection, maybe I was wrong and I missed by a fraction everytime. I got angry but I just changed class and tried to find another solution to my bad game, I didn't glitch in an attempt to teach the guy a lesson and ruin the game for everyone. what a loser honestly.

i love it when people ask rhetorical questions - you clearly know i'm not a software developer, get off the pedestal you've placed yourself on. Especially in this thread, you go around critising everyone who complains about the game but never offer any helpful input yourself, except for asking help with certain builds/killstreaks (which you never reply too or continue any form of discussion with)

I'm not blaming myself for getting killed because the host was on my team - he had a full 4 bar signal. Everyone else had 3 bars, which should only give the HOST the advantage.

i know for a fact that when you're the host you do gain an advantage, my connection is perfect at non-peak times and i usually get made host. So when a couple of people on the other team had dropped down to 2 and 1 bar signals, come into sight OUT OF COMMANDO RANGE, warp over to me whilst im pumping stopping power bullets into them and knife me, its IWs bullshit.

The fact is, doing that glitch is the most fun ive had in this game for a while.
 

Ramirez

Member
OgTheClever said:
To be fair, the game probably isn't really that much more glitchy than most online shooters out now. The problem is because of its popularity, there are many millions of players running through all the possibilities which can be created through the game, inevitably leading to many more bugs being found.

I can guarantee that if you add millions of people to any lesser played online game out there then it's going to suddenly seem a lot more buggy.

Halo 3 has been going for years now, and the only real glitch I can think of is the one where you can carry power ups with you...

I don't even remember COD4 having many glitches aside from people getting out of the maps...
 
Ramirez said:
Halo 3 has been going for years now, and the only real glitch I can think of is the one where you can carry power ups with you...

I don't even remember COD4 having many glitches aside from people getting out of the maps...

COD4 had a couple of hiccups but it was mostly performance which were resolved in it's first few weeks of release. There were three bugs after that in the span of two years that needed fixing. The getting in the rock in Overgrown, the Flying around by screwing with the save file, and fixing the modded controller where people could shoot super fast. That's it... in 2 full years and millions of people playing it.
 
kaizoku said:
I don't see the point of using cold blooded in hardcore mode, the radar is barely up and we don't have labels above our heads anyway. Only reason to use it is for when people have a UAV killstreak.

Would rather use that perk slot for something else tbh. hardline, danger close and lightweight would make more sense in hardcore mode. cold blooded and stopping power, not so much. No idea why everyone insists CB is a must for hardcore mode.....

I've started to realise how much I rely on my pro perks and other equipment, esp cold blooded pro and silencers to keep me hidden (on non-hardcore matches!). claymores also became an essential part of my game. I'm doing quite well score wise but it feels like I'm just waiting for the game to begin properly i.e. when I get all my shit back!
I don't know how a lot of you do it without those. I use CBP/Silencers 95% of the time when I'm playing. I'll occasionally use Hardline if I'm playing crappy and want one less kill to use my KS and I don't do very well at all. Probably because I'm so used to being essentially invisible I guess but still.

This is my first FPS game for a console and I'm really enjoying it, I'm addicted to it at the moment. There are a few things that bother me but mostly related to a kill here or there that I wonder how I was the one killed. Only major issue I don't like is when it puts me in a game that's either 30 secs away from ending and an automatic loss or putting me in a game that's like 6000-2500.
 
CozMick said:
Ok Gaf I'm about to make a game changing decision........

I've Mastered pretty much every AR in the game, I've NEVER used any other weapon since the game launched and my kd/r is 2.42, but I've hit a wall..........the game just ain't fun anymore.

So, do I sacrifice all that time and "hard work" and start experimenting with crazy loadouts but sacrificing my kd/r and get laughed at by my friends BUT have fun while I'm doing it?

or

Continue on the road of success with my trusted M4A1, M9, Harrier, AC-130 and Nuke but feel a little more empty inside every time my kd/r rises 0.01?
Why is this even a question? You're playing a fucking video game. Have fun.
 

Nizz

Member
OldJadedGamer said:
COD4 had a couple of hiccups but it was mostly performance which were resolved in it's first few weeks of release. There were three bugs after that in the span of two years that needed fixing. The getting in the rock in Overgrown, the Flying around by screwing with the save file, and fixing the modded controller where people could shoot super fast. That's it... in 2 full years and millions of people playing it.
I'm sure there were a couple of more glitches. I remember playing on Creek and to the right of the waterfall, someone managed to get into those rocks/terrain there. People also found their way out of Backlot (the chain link fence behind the building with the second floor turret).

But all in all, yes it seemed way less glitchy than MW2. Maybe because the glitches are found so quickly and more frequent in MW2. Pretty much a weekly basis. Whereas imo COD4 the glitches seemed more spread out and not as frequent.

It's disappointing because at its core, MW2 is a fun game. It controls great, it moves at a great framerate, guns feel good (most, not you F2000).
 
CozMick said:
Ok Gaf I'm about to make a game changing decision........

I've Mastered pretty much every AR in the game, I've NEVER used any other weapon since the game launched and my kd/r is 2.42, but I've hit a wall..........the game just ain't fun anymore.

So, do I sacrifice all that time and "hard work" and start experimenting with crazy loadouts but sacrificing my kd/r and get laughed at by my friends BUT have fun while I'm doing it?

or

Continue on the road of success with my trusted M4A1, M9, Harrier, AC-130 and Nuke but feel a little more empty inside every time my kd/r rises 0.01?

wow
 

eek5

Member
wud said:
had a couple of tactical knifers on domination tonight who both had worse connections than me and a mate, yet were still managing to warp commando to us

said fuck it, taught him how to do that new care package glitch and fucked the other team right over. Decided as long as these glitches exist I'm going to start using them, I can't beat people in normal gunfights anymore due to lag (killcams always back this up) so I'm going to join the masses and glitch
I'm losing so let me cheat!!! sounds about right
 

Mileena

Banned
SCAR would be the best AR in the game if it didn't run out of ammo so fast. Before anyone suggests it, Marathon > Scavenger.
 
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