eemijun said:Still can't decide if I should keep my hardened edition pre-ordered. I need some advice.
I can't even get a hardened edition where I live since it's sold out everywhere. So yeah, keep it I say.
eemijun said:Still can't decide if I should keep my hardened edition pre-ordered. I need some advice.
Dreaver said:Any GAF multiplayer opinions yet? I think I've read one in the past few pages.
I'm really curious how the multipalyer will be.
Call of Duty 4 is one of the best multiplayer games of all time in my opinion. Modern Warfare 2 was unbalanced as fuck but I enjoyed it a lot nonetheless and played it quite a lot.
Black Ops was better balanced but played less good / was less fun overall in my opinion.
MW2 was just as balanced and even more well-produced than CoD4, with the exception of the crazier playstyles they tried to introduce (infinite-tubing, knifing-as-primary, super-quickscoping, etc). Aside from those, MW2 is better than CoD4 in every respect.BoobPhysics101 said:COD4 was a classic. Every COD after was garbage.
If MW3 can bring back that MW1 balance and awesomeness... I'll play it.
No, it's even 100% the exact same game. Nothing has changed. SP is the same and MP is the same. It is in fact MW2 with a MW3 cover on the box. Do not be fooled or tricked.The_Player said:My. God. This is just MW2.5. Sounds, Voice, Models, Animation, UI - everything came unchanged directly from previous MW games. It looks pathetic.
Just as balanced? Are you serious? Model 1887 says hi!aku:jiki said:MW2 was just as balanced and even more well-produced than CoD4, with the exception of the crazier playstyles they tried to introduce (infinite-tubing, knifing-as-primary, super-quickscoping, etc). Aside from those, MW2 is better than CoD4 in every respect.
Personally, I'm really only bothered by tubers and tac-knifers anymore. Knifers are the worst since they never really play for their own gain or trying to win, they're basically just trolling your spawn with their shitty teleport-o-knife.
Victrix said:But I'm afraid it has no RPD, so it is doomed to failure.
(... ok I'll accept the PKP as a suitable russian substitute)
Agreed. No way in hell MW2 was just as balanced, otherwise all those fixes Treyarch did for Black Ops based on fan input were pointless. They helped out a lot and MW3 even acknowledges some of the balance issues in MW2 and addressed it again.Dreaver said:Just as balanced? Are you serious? Model 1887 says hi!
Nade spam, chopper gunner, harriers, UMP .45, Commando and loads of other things made the game unbalanced.
And there are other things that made it a worse game as well in my opinion. (Deathstreaks can fuck off).
More options isn't always better. Call of Duty 4 had a few flaws but was almost perfect in my opinion.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Modern Warfare 2. But it is/was NOT balanced.
aku:jiki said:MW2 was just as balanced and even more well-produced than CoD4, with the exception of the crazier playstyles they tried to introduce (infinite-tubing, knifing-as-primary, super-quickscoping, etc). Aside from those, MW2 is better than CoD4 in every respect.
Are you serious? The Model 1887's were patched like a month after release, they haven't been unbalanced for two years. And nade spam? CoD4 was the one with the 3x Frags perk, in a tier where not much else was interesting. It had far, far more nade spam than any other CoD. No idea what you mean by mentioning the UMP and Commando was one of the crazy playstyles I mentioned in my post.Dreaver said:Just as balanced? Are you serious? Model 1887 says hi!
Nade spam, chopper gunner, harriers, UMP .45, Commando and loads of other things made the game unbalanced.
amar212 said:I really do not want to sound harsh, but sir - you are insane.
COD4 was the last balanced COD in terms of multiplayer.
Every "improvement" made in later games just led to exponential rise of non-balance.
CoD 4 had it's fair share of unbalanced shit as well. Last Stand, Martyrdom, Juggernaut, Stopping Power, Double Tap, super accurate helicopters, double claymores. People remember CoD 4 as if it's perfect but it still has issues.amar212 said:I really do not want to sound harsh, but sir - you are insane.
COD4 was the last balanced COD in terms of multiplayer.
Every "improvement" made in later games just led to exponential rise of non-balance.
A month is a pretty long time in my opinion. There were just loads of things that made the game unbalanced. (You might be right with Nades, but they were still bad).aku:jiki said:Are you serious? The Model 1887's were patched like a month after release, they haven't been unbalanced for two years. And nade spam? CoD4 was the one with the 3x Frags perk, in a tier where not much else was interesting. It had far, far more nade spam than any other CoD. No idea what you mean by mentioning the UMP and Commando was one of the crazy playstyles I mentioned in my post.
The only thing I'd agree with is Harriers. I'm not sure they're actually unbalanced though. The Harrier can be taken out with one easy Stinger and while the PaveLow has flares, it usually doesn't sniper-target you as you're locking on (which the Harrier does). Air support is very, very easy to deal with, it's just that most people can't be bothered. People being lazy does not make the game unbalanced.
No just no.amar212 said:I really do not want to sound harsh, but sir - you are insane.
COD4 was the last balanced COD in terms of multiplayer.
Every "improvement" made in later games just led to exponential rise of non-balance.
yes. and based on the videos ive seen, yes again.Dan Yo said:Is the Type 95 the new Famas (MW2)?
Also, can anyone confirm that the damage increase makes the guns do as much damage as if stopping power were turned on? Or is it somewhere in between?
A month is a long time, I do agree there, but to be fair to IW, people weren't rocking 1887's on day one. It was a level 65 unlock, so it took a few weeks before they became a plague.Dreaver said:A month is a pretty long time in my opinion. There were just loads of things that made the game unbalanced. (You might be right with Nades, but they were still bad).
No, I don't believe you do, but I'm not seeing a flood of arguments for why MW2 was unbalanced either. Yes, there were the crazy styles and they're retarded but beside that, the gun-on-gun balance was absolutely fine. There are a few minor failures, like the UMP's damage at range or the RPD's damage at any range (it's pretty overpowered), but every CoD has had that. CoD4 has the infamously over-strong M16 with red dot and ACOG sniping. The MP5 was pretty insane too.Dreaver said:And no, I'm not calling the game unfair or unbalanced because I suck. I think I am a very decent CoD player.
Respawn said:Was this posted? I said Wow!
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/act...odern-warfare-3-stolen-in-french-heist-report
Gez said:No just no.
As the above poster said Stopping Power, Juggernaut, Martydom, Last Stand, Noobtube, Massive knife lunge, Nade spam and kill streak spam (on PC)
At least the nades in MW2 and Black Ops where nerfed from their COD4/W@W counterparts.
Plays just as if stopping power were on? Very good news. Thanks.Radec said:yes. and based on the videos ive seen, yes again.
Well hopefully that all gets reset at midnight.Accident said:I swear, most people playing tonight were speaking french! at least on hardcore domination.
85k+ on the leaderboards right now.
Respawn said:Well hopefully that all gets reset at midnight.
Kermit The Dog said:Has this been released worldwide already? Australia ticks over to launch day in an 1 hour and 45 mins.
Also, it's good to see Aku:jiki's opinion getting even further marginalised in here. The guy is loopy when it comes to Call of Duty.
MW2 was the most unbalanced, unfocused game in the series. If MW3 is anything like it, it'll be a turd on arrival.
Dan Yo said:Plays just as if stopping power were on? Very good news. Thanks.
Do kill streaks count towards the next kill streak again or did they go the Black Ops route?
I have to ask though... How did you counter a perfectly cooked frag in CoD4 or a guy with Juggernaut and a shotgun and how do you figure that, say, quickscopers in MW2 are impossible to counter? I just don't see it. The worst part of MW2 is the tubing and it does suck ass, but I don't think one imbalance means the whole game is completely and utterly broken. (It does have a large impact that can sour you on the game, obviously, but tubing being stupid doesn't mean that, for example, an M4 is drastically imbalanced compared to a SCAR.)amar212 said:I have never, ever had any issues with SP, MD, LS, NT or 3X grenades. Notice I did 90% of that playing exclusively Team Tactical..
Respawn said:Well hopefully that all gets reset at midnight.
Respawn said:Was this posted? I said Wow!
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/act...odern-warfare-3-stolen-in-french-heist-report
Site still seems weird. Has me logged in as Elite13.Mik2121 said:Elite is back online for the Black Ops stats!
Weird. I can see all my stats for Black Ops. The emblems are still missing, and overall the site is kinda slow, but yeah.. it's working.Respawn said:Site still seems weird. Has me logged in as Elite13.
edit: Nope still down even after I logged out and went back in.
CozMick said:I ain't been reading much about CoD: Elite as I wasn't interested until today....
Does Microsoft still hold the timed exclusive map packs? if so what's the deal with that if I become an Elite member? :\