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Can Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart on PC match - and exceed - the PS5 experience?
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majestix1988
Member
actually its direct storage doing the work but still meh compared to hardware unit on ps5 doing transfer speed to do it...other people see its all about SSD but in reality its all about transfer speed
Mr Moose
Member
Can it run on PS4?Some people in here really bought into the whole "PS5 SSD is a scam!" This proves it's not a scam.
Eat crow.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
This is really helpful for me, by the way. I primarily use Linux so the whole directstorage SSD situation had me worried, but it seems to run just fine on the Deck.
I was wrong, I'll admit. But i'm not eating no god damn crow. shit looks disgustingSome people in here really bought into the whole "PS5 SSD is a scam!" This proves it's not a scam.
Eat crow.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Well
32GB 6000/MT DDR5/4090/7800X3D
Getting performance in the 100-160 range averaging what feels like 145~
All settings maxed and DLSS3.
Running in 4k, should be noted.
Highly Impressive as it should be with that HW.
What's more evident is the lack of stutter and that it just runs like a well optimized console game. It looks like it should and performs like it should for once. Not that it's pushing bleeding edge visuals but it is at the same time. I'm just impressed with how it loads and moves. This is the kind of stuff I was mentioning the PS5 had an advantage and if this is the future then I welcome it.
32GB 6000/MT DDR5/4090/7800X3D
Getting performance in the 100-160 range averaging what feels like 145~
All settings maxed and DLSS3.
Running in 4k, should be noted.
Highly Impressive as it should be with that HW.
What's more evident is the lack of stutter and that it just runs like a well optimized console game. It looks like it should and performs like it should for once. Not that it's pushing bleeding edge visuals but it is at the same time. I'm just impressed with how it loads and moves. This is the kind of stuff I was mentioning the PS5 had an advantage and if this is the future then I welcome it.
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8BiTw0LF
Banned
DirectStorage is a scam
Catphish
Gold Member
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
we got actual confirmation that the PS5 SSD and I/O are real and that you do need an SSD to run rift apart. Insomniac and Cerny were correct.
Game's still on PC, though. & the port is really good with minor issues
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bender
What time is it?
You'd hope idiots on both sides SSDGate would learn to take innocuous comments from a developer as just that, innocuous comments, instead of a cudgel to be used against their sworn enemies on the fanboy field of battle, but I'm going to go with "nothing" as the answer to your question.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
we should be doing 6700xt comparisons as that card is only slightly more powerful than the ps5, plus they have a similar AMD featureset.
oh hey, you're hereRivet judging by the laughing emoji on one of my posts. So, will you change your avatar & name now that rift apart is on PC?
Was there a bet on this ?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
lol no. Just teasing based on their avatar.Was there a bet on this ?
bender
What time is it?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
you should've seen the one i had before this one.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Actually not funny damn when did this happen? I initially laughed
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
where i got this masterpiece of an avatar from btw
oh my fucking god lmao.... bro gotta be trippin
Dude must have seen the check from Microsoft if he's making faces like that
bender
What time is it?
I'm not sure I get the reference but I hope it is a parody of youtube face.
Mr Moose
Member
McConnell freezes during news conference, prompting colleagues' concern
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suddenly stopped speaking midsentence during a weekly news conference Wednesday.
www.cbsnews.com
Rivet
Member
Actually, I'm just happy more people will get to enjoy that game. More Sony games on PC is a good thing for everybody.
Topher
Identifies as young
I did not give you permission to put Cerny's face on my body, sir.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
He is not human and we had testimony at a Congressional hearing today the US is in possession of "non human biologics"
Mr Moose
Member
First with the Activision thing (no objections from MS)He is not human and we had testimony at a Congressional hearing today the US is in possession of "non human biologics"
And now this.
I am afraid for Cerny, they might dissect.
Snake29
Banned
That api isn’t running magically by itself without the necessary hardware. It still needs the GPU or CPU to decompress, which is not happening on the PS5.
Zathalus
Member
They did the best they could for a first impressions video. They had the absolute high end, near match for minimum spec and then the best non 120hz PS5 mode (due to mentioned hardware limitations). I'm sure Rich could have done the PS5 side of things but then we would have missed one of the most interesting parts of the video, how the game runs on a minimum spec PC. And for what? Making the poor PS5 look slightly better? When they already had like three videos covering that version of the game?
You are getting worked up and shitting on DF over slightly reduced crowd density. Which will likely be touched upon when the actual analysis video comes out.
Mr Moose
Member
Even then he didn't meet minimum specs. I guess its hard to find an old GPU/CPU. He also used an SSD.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So many people grabbed onto that first video where the Dev says the transitions were only possible at that speed on the PS5 and they turned it into the game is only possible on the PS5
The quote
The SSD is screamingly fast. It allows us to build worlds and project players from one place to another in near instantaneous speeds. It is an unbelievable game-changer in terms of we can now do gameplay where you’re in one world and the next moment you’re in another. We’re loading up levels and that happens so quickly and in the action that you don’t even imagine that this is something we couldn’t do before, because it feels so natural. Long gone are loading screens. Now it’s all about bringing exciting new adventures.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
love how hes trying to prove shit here when hes the moron who bought the game in the first place. Even if it ran not to much slower than on PS5, he still gave Insomniac and Sony money.
Zathalus
Member
How so? Loading appears to be one of the things that works well. A 3.5 GBs drive nearly matches the PS5. It's like 1/5 of a second slower without any of the dedicated hardware that a PC has. Seems it's doing exactly what it's supposed to do.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
That people are weirdly invested in the mystical magic of the PS5 I/O complex and feel the need to vigorously defend it against HDD interlopers.
Mr Moose
Member
They missed the important part.
"And this is something that we never could've done on previous generations"
Huh? I thought the GPU is dedicated hardware.
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Zathalus
Member
A 570 and 470 are very close though. Only a small clock speed difference.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Yeah. These dudes pounding their chest over milliseconds.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
T4keD0wN
Member
No clue what to think about directstorage or how to properly measure it, this is just the famous rift sequence. It goes up to 694MB/s read when loading into the game from desktop, by far the highest usage ive ever seen for a game.
I dont think theres a way to measure how DS+ssd are actually utilised for the gpu decompression in the game. I believe this reports just the regular loading as the directstorage 1.2 avocado demo shows 16gbps while hwinfo only reports 300-400mbps reads.
I dont think theres a way to measure how DS+ssd are actually utilised for the gpu decompression in the game. I believe this reports just the regular loading as the directstorage 1.2 avocado demo shows 16gbps while hwinfo only reports 300-400mbps reads.
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Had to convert these from HDR to non HDR.
Zathalus
Member
Nah, the GPU is used but it's not dedicated to decompression. So basically DirectStorage is offloading some of the decompression to the GPU hence doing exactly what it is supposed to do. No dedicated I/O complex required.
Snake29
Banned
The PS5 version wasn’t using max SSD performance. Insomniac said that R&C was been developed based on earlier PS5 hardware. It wasn’t even maxing out the SSD Capebilities.
Mr Moose
Member
Yeah but a 960 2GB is also minimum specs, those two cards do not perform the same. The SSD isn't a HDD either.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I mean yeah, but it's dedicated hardware every PC gamer would have, unless you're one of those APU guys.
Zathalus
Member
Likely don't have a 960. Rich did try the HDD but it kept crashing for him. He actually went through two motherboards as well, the first one blew, second one didn't work, and then finally got one working.
They also mention that they find it highly unlikely the 960 could work due to the 2GB of VRAM.
Mr Moose
Member
It's really weird that's the min spec GPU, did they mean a 970?
Zathalus
Member
Yeah, it's a limitation of the game. 3.5GBps drive performs the same as a 7GBps drive. Same behaviour as PS5 where a much slower SSD matches the 5.5GBps one.
PS5 I/O is great, I was simply pointing out DirectStorage is doing exactly what it's supposed to do. Not sure how anyone can label it a scam.
Zathalus
Member
It's the first GPU DirectStorage game ever released and the difference in loading is on the order of milliseconds.It's okay.. Just not as great as PS5's I/O. Guess no one never stated it would be...
twilo99
Gold Member
And which games uses these godly capabilities?
8BiTw0LF
Banned
But it doesn't fix the pop-ins. Seems there's a bottleneck somewhere.
For a 2 year old PS5 game:
