Can you tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps?
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I haven't said that either, I'm saying it depends on the game. A twitch shooter like Quake needs to be at least 60fps. A game like DOTA or LoL benefits massively from being 60fps. However more slow paced shooters such as Halo are fine at 30.
BlackRainbowFT
Member
It would be cool if we could see if there's some sort of correlation between
your 60vs30 detection score and your average reaction times (http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime)
Since there's definitely a ceiling effect and at least 1 error caused by jittery videos, data from people with 0 - 9 correct answers might be enough.
your 60vs30 detection score and your average reaction times (http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime)
Since there's definitely a ceiling effect and at least 1 error caused by jittery videos, data from people with 0 - 9 correct answers might be enough.
Well that's what I was saying. People who say that Destiny feels perfectly 'smooth' at 30fps have no frame of reference. I've heard people argue their pack-in earbuds from an iPhone sound 'great', simply because they've never heard what good headphones can sound like.
You say that, but you have no idea what the game might feel like at 60fps.
Jesus Christ no. Horizon does not have sim-like physics. You are objectively wrong about this. It doesn't take but a quick glance at some footage to see that the physics lean away from the more 'sim-like' physics of Forza Motorsport. They share technology, but they are not the same at all. Battlefield 4 and Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare both share the same engine but that does not mean they have the same physics. Horizon has a ton of 'forgiveness' added to Motorsport's physics. And you might not notice because you're not doing the same sort of track racing, which is what makes them such different games. You do not need to worry about proper driving technique that much in Horizon.
Haha. Just wait til people get their hands on the new Master Chief Collection. I guarantee you people will lush over the 60fps 'feel' of Halo.
Again, frame of reference. It feels smooth because you haven't experienced how much better it can be.
Yes, and I play better with higher framerate. Especially in FPS (heh) games where aiming and spotting enemy movement is crucial. The jump in fidelity is pretty big. I cannot understand how people don't see the difference - you can care not care about 60fps but not seeing the difference is mind-boggling. How do you get through the day if your eyes and brain only interpret 30fps 
(EDIT) 11/11 by the way, just did the test. Easy.
(EDIT) 11/11 by the way, just did the test. Easy.
Depends on the game, really. For me, it's not that I notice 30 fps, it's that I notice 60 fps. So I don't really mind 30 fps games. I swear, the way some people talk on this board, it's like they can count each individual frame.
I mostly play RPGs, though. So I tend to not care if a game is 30 vs 60 fps.
I mostly play RPGs, though. So I tend to not care if a game is 30 vs 60 fps.
Games like Skyrim and Dark Souls are massively improved at 60fps.
Turn-based RPG's are affected less(but not completely unaffected) in terms of the 'feel', but the visual improvement is still quite impactful.
uncleniccius
Member
4/11, and some of the ones I got right were because of stuttering.. I guessed most because I couldn't tell..
SolidSnakesMyStepDad
Member
10/11 I missed the CSGO one which is hilarious because thats the game I play the most. I just clicked in under 2 seconds which was dumb. On average though I saw the difference really quick.
I guess I should've specified. I mostly play turn-based RPGs. The only case where I was really bothered by a game being 30 fps was Tales of Symphonia's "HD" port. But my issue there had more to do with Namco's outright laziness (the GC version ran at 60 fps just fine) in porting the PS2 version without restoring the original game's frame rate.
kahboomkin
Member
11/11
As soon as the camera moves its super easy to tell which is 60
As soon as the camera moves its super easy to tell which is 60
funkystudent
Member
Easily.
For resolutions shitty AA metods that mess with IQ can put me off but for framerate its easy to tell them apart.
For resolutions shitty AA metods that mess with IQ can put me off but for framerate its easy to tell them apart.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Instantly recognized all of them except the Into the sun one. Been an fps whore for most games since witnessing Virtua Fighter 2 and Daytona for the first time.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
11/11
Super easy. I personally don't know how anyone can not tell the difference (even when not viewing them side-by-side like this), one is so clearly smoother than the other. But oh well!
Super easy. I personally don't know how anyone can not tell the difference (even when not viewing them side-by-side like this), one is so clearly smoother than the other. But oh well!
Shalashaska161
Member
11/11
Maybe if they did 120hz vs 60 it would be more difficult but 30 vs 60 is immediately noticeable to me.
Maybe if they did 120hz vs 60 it would be more difficult but 30 vs 60 is immediately noticeable to me.
Gamesadict
Member
11/11
Easy
Easy
MakeshiftChef
Member
There must be something wrong with me, 6/11. Then again, I've never really concerned myself overly much with a game's performance. If it is running smoothly enough I guess I just don't notice the difference as much. I did however correctly spot the difference between the games I had actually played in that rundown.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
10/11. I picked the Portal one within the first two seconds and got it wrong. It was easier to see after that.
Spinosaurus
Member
Helicopter took me a while lol
11/11
I think it'd be better if it weren't side by side though. It's easy otherwise.
11/11
I think it'd be better if it weren't side by side though. It's easy otherwise.
SilverBulletKY
Neo Member
7/11 - most were guesses.. i had no clue.
EricDiesel
Member
11/11
Arma took me a while, but I got it. The others were nearly instantaneous.
Arma took me a while, but I got it. The others were nearly instantaneous.
Might want to see an optician.
HaterIsHating
Member
Didn't know the difference was that easy to spot.
11/11
11/11
I got 10/11.
I managed to get it by choosing the ones who saw more fake.
I don't understand why some people feel the need to insult people who just see stuff diferentely.
I don't have a 20/20 vision and I dislike superbright blu-ray movies and sometimes high fps, it just look fake to me, and I think it's because in real life I don't see the things so bright and defined.
Anyway I would like a serious study with thousands of people to determine the cause of why some people are able to spot the difference so easily and others not, and why some prefer ultraHD and others like me, dont.
EDIT:
This is very interesting. I usually prefer 30 fps and my reaction times where I think slow: an average of 295ms after 30 tries. (below average)
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
11/11
I was a little scared that I would get one wrong.
I was a little scared that I would get one wrong.
That is interesting. As I posted above, my score for the test in to OP was 2/11, and I didn't see much of a difference between the two videos. My score for the test which you posted is 345, which is quite low and below the average of 254. So there could be something to your theory.
Same here. There wasn't enough of a visual reference point to gauge the motion blur, especially with the foreground. But doing the test again, I seem to be able to tell now if I focus on it.
Johnny Ryall
Member
11/11
With ease
With ease
See I don't think it would matter, because even if you take longer to process the visual data you're still getting the same stream of information. Are you using Chrome or Firefox, and how fast is your computer?