Cemu Thread: Emulating Wii U Games

felipepl said:
I keep reading about this stuff on how "creating emulators" is not really illegal and etc, but really, when someone or a group of people are actually getting paid, directly reporting to their backers and working specifically on the playable status of a very specific, newly released and critically praised game like BotW, I don't know if this "emulators are not evil" concept can't be legally questioned when there's a clear intention of bypassing the purchase of Nintendo's own hardware (Wii U) that is, in fact, still being sold in a lot of places, and specially when their new hardware's flagship game is exactly the same one being worked on.

Not saying that I'm against CEMU, I'm actually a backer, but CEMU's team is clearly prioritizing Zelda compatibility to attract more Patreon backers, not because they're simply good people. And that's basically making money off a Nintendo IP that is more relevant than ever, selling like hotcakes and driving a new system forward.
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Yeah but your point becomes irrelevant, because you can say the same thing about, PS3, 360, PS2, Wii emulators because they are all still being sold to an extent.
 
Does anyone know how to take screenshots of the native frame buffer? I hooked it up to steam to use the steam screenshot feature and that just takes screenshots at whatever resolution the window is set to.
 
LordK said:
Does anyone know how to take screenshots of the native frame buffer? I hooked it up to steam to use the steam screenshot feature and that just takes screenshots at whatever resolution the window is set to.
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I believe it's printscreen, and that copies to your clipboard.
 
LordK said:
Does anyone know how to take screenshots of the native frame buffer? I hooked it up to steam to use the steam screenshot feature and that just takes screenshots at whatever resolution the window is set to.
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shift+printscreen. it drops them into your clipboard though, so you might want to look into clipboard managers.
 
"The game pretty much ran this way out of the box after the few issues were resolved that prevented it from going in-game."

That's pretty good! 1.7.4 should be very interesting then.
 
"Mainstream" gaming media getting wind of this is going to make things very awkward for Nintendo.

Maybe one day Nintendo will actually upgrade the power of their hardware so it can't be so easily emulated. In GameCube units, Ninty has been stuck around 4 GC's for over a decade now. The GTX 1080 Ti is 1,350 GC's by comparisn.

Yes, the GC is now the official computing performance measurement unit. Teraflops is obsolete.

edit: If you want to convert FLOPS to GC's, 1 GC = 9.4 Gigaflops or 0.0094 Teraflops
 
Unknown Soldier said:
"Mainstream" gaming media getting wind of this is going to make things very awkward for Nintendo.

Maybe one day Nintendo will actually upgrade the power of their hardware so it can't be so easily emulated. In GameCube units, Ninty has been stuck around 4 GC's for over a decade now. The GTX 1080 Ti is 1,350 GC's by comparisn.

Yes, the GC is now the official computing performance measurement unit. Teraflops is obsolete.

edit: If you want to convert FLOPS to GC's, 1 GC = 9.4 Gigaflops or 0.0094 Teraflops
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Did Dolphin make it awkward for them?
 
Daedardus said:
So it always comes do this argument eventually, doesn't it? How would a well maintained closed source distribution not help with game preservation?
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Because when the patreon funds dry up, which will probably happen not too long from now, it being closed-source means that it will not be maintained anymore.

Meaning that once a new version of Windows comes out which breaks compatibility with Win10, the only way to use the emulator on a modern system will be through an emulator. Not good. Eventually, it will be completely useless, and someone will have to start over from scratch on an open source emu.
 
Sephiroth_VII said:
Because when the patreon funds dry up, which will probably happen not too long from now, it being closed-source means that it will not be maintained anymore.

Meaning that once a new version of Windows comes out which breaks compatibility with Win10, the only way to use the emulator on a modern system will be through an emulator. Not good. Eventually, it will be completely useless, and someone will have to start over from scratch on an open source emu.
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This is so many assumptions :)
 
Sephiroth_VII said:
Because when the patreon funds dry up, which will probably happen not too long from now, it being closed-source means that it will not be maintained anymore.

Meaning that once a new version of Windows comes out which breaks compatibility with Win10, the only way to use the emulator on a modern system will be through an emulator. Not good. Eventually, it will be completely useless, and someone will have to start over from scratch on an open source emu.
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They already said that if they ever hit a wall in development they will consider releasing it as open source, so all those worries are nothing more than people yelling about the end of days, the apocalypse is coming, etc, etc.
 
Zojirushi said:
I wonder if they could just sell it to Nintendo for crazy money. Plot twist!
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Unlikely, as Nintendo would have to support a piece of software spanning multiple hardware configurations and end user experiences. Don't think they'd want to take on that degree of support and they are obviously well known delivering a set end user experience for all.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
"Mainstream" gaming media getting wind of this is going to make things very awkward for Nintendo.

Maybe one day Nintendo will actually upgrade the power of their hardware so it can't be so easily emulated. In GameCube units, Ninty has been stuck around 4 GC's for over a decade now. The GTX 1080 Ti is 1,350 GC's by comparisn.

Yes, the GC is now the official computing performance measurement unit. Teraflops is obsolete.

edit: If you want to convert FLOPS to GC's, 1 GC = 9.4 Gigaflops or 0.0094 Teraflops
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Wasn't the Switch like 80 GCs from your own thread?

Also make no mistake, Cemu and Dolphin are leading the way for Switch VC. Nintendo is watching what and how they're doing things.
But first thing first, they have to come up with NES and SNES emulators for NS as well as a SNES mini.
 
ponpo said:
Did Dolphin make it awkward for them?
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Companies are not actually people with feelings. They are entities controlled, in the end, by interests to investors and focussing on hitting economic targets and, therefore, making profit.
The damage from Dolphin is negligible and the chance of suing successfully is rather small. Even if they reach an agreement out of court, since the project is open-source, anyone could simply fork it and distribute it again.
The whole piracy argument through emulators is insane. Most consoles, by the time you get emulators, are already hacked and wide open. If people wanted to pirate stuff, they'd just do it on the actual console, not on a emulator that requires an often high-end PC that could easily cost many times the price of a X-year-old console.
Of course, a lot of people here either like to troll or are lack the mental capacity to come to the conclusion above, so ... this circle of piracy spam on emulator threads will never, ever end.
 
Mivey said:
If people wanted to pirate stuff, they'd just do it on the actual console, not on a emulator that requires an often high-end PC that could easily cost many times the price of a X-year-old console.
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Not to mention that the expensive, powerful PC solution will need to wait for a mature emulator and even then you get a buggy experience if there's not enough accuracy, while the soft-modded console can play everything with no bugs (with rare exceptions of early softmodes breaking some games).
 
I became a Patreon subscriber to support the work and try the latest on friday. For people already using CEMU, what's a good single player WiiU game that runs well on the emulator?
 
sugarhigh4242 said:
I became a Patreon subscriber to support the work and try the latest on friday. For people already using CEMU, what's a good single player WiiU game that runs well on the emulator?
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Captain Toad Treasure Tracker. Finished it completly on Cemu with barely any hiccups (outside of one door glitch which resolved itself)
 
Unknown Soldier said:
"Mainstream" gaming media getting wind of this is going to make things very awkward for Nintendo.

Maybe one day Nintendo will actually upgrade the power of their hardware so it can't be so easily emulated. In GameCube units, Ninty has been stuck around 4 GC's for over a decade now. The GTX 1080 Ti is 1,350 GC's by comparisn.

Yes, the GC is now the official computing performance measurement unit. Teraflops is obsolete.

edit: If you want to convert FLOPS to GC's, 1 GC = 9.4 Gigaflops or 0.0094 Teraflops
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True it's both a blessing and a curse.

I always found it very interesting how Nintendo hardware gets emulated either the earliest or in the most complete way starting back from SNES and zSNESw.

There is something about Nintendo consoles that attracts the largest amount of hackers, coders and developers in trying to crack it or emulate it.

A large part of this - IMO - is the general weakness of the hardware compared to other players in the market. Even if all those hackers/ developers would want to write a PS4 emulator it would just not run at anything higher than 5 fpses on high-end PCs. The same Wii U emulator achieves 90 fpses there.

I wonder how fast a Switch emulator will be written? ETA: 2018 Holidays.
 
Sephiroth_VII said:
Eventually, it will be completely useless, and someone will have to start over from scratch on an open source emu.
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"Someone", how do you think open source projects work? There's already an open source Wii U emulator, do you think there can only exist a finite amount of them at a time?
 
Can't wait to play this PC game!
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The Breath of the Wild bump continues. The Cemu Patreon has now hit $8000 for the first time. How high will it go?
 
Been playing the WiiU version as it arrived a day early, holy shit is the game good. I haven't even left the plateau yet. The framerate is fucking horrible though, borderline unplayable at times. Literally tanks sometimes when I just move the camera slightly. Other issues I have is the dithering on the grass/lack of AA?

I'm really looking forward to the Cemu version now though.
 
Should news sites really being reporting on this? Especially with hypobolic headlines? I mean how low do you have to sink? The game was not even close to instantly emulated. It's months away. I understand you want the titles to be click bait but damn, a little honesty wouldn't go unnoticed.

Also none of us know the specs needed to make BOTW playable. It's way too early to ask anything about it. However I can say with confidence that you need a new CPU. Yours is obsolete by quite a margin and anything less than 3.5-4 Ghz chugs pretty badly.
 
Koozek said:
Hey, guys. How would BOTW fare with these specs?

i5-5200U@2.20GHz, 8GB DDR3
GTX 950M with 4GB VRAM

Thanks!
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It doesn't run yet, but based on that 2.2? Pretty terribly unless they really optimize the emulator by the time you plan on playing it.
 
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