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Charlie Hebdo attacks - Hostage situations ended, 4 hostages reportedly killed
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ComputerMKII
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They actually shot a video of the Charlie Hebdo staff working on the Mohammad caricatures back in 2006. The last words
https://vimeo.com/116362234
I've never seen this before. Thanks, that was nice.
To think some of those people are gone...
My fault, poor communication. Which is kinda ironic because I'm accusing Hollande of the same.
The point I'm badly trying to make is I would have preferred him spending more time on trying to ignite the 'fire' that might ignite. The racial tensions between whites and arabics, between arabics and jews are the biggest risk right now. We already saw the first embers on that first night. It is why I feel politicians should spend more time on bringing everybody together, especially the French president at this point.
gutter_trash
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Sun News used to be owned by the same owner as TVA. He sold Sun News to Conrad Black just a few months ago.
PodcastFips
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Not from the back, but from the side.
It couldn't have been a more antisemitic attack unless the terrorist targeted a freaking synagogue.
At some point they need to call it what it is.
Sorry just got back to my computer, what the hell:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/09/montpelier-hostages_n_6444676.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/09/montpelier-hostages_n_6444676.html
We know about it, it's an unrelated failed robbery
ComputerMKII
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Whoever loses, Marine Le Pen wins
And all this the result of just 3 people's actions... man, I know that these radicals are in the minority when it comes to Islam as a whole, but boy can they sure cause a whole lot of death and chaos.
I'm glad this nightmare is over though, and hope the next one doesn't happen for a good while.
I'm glad this nightmare is over though, and hope the next one doesn't happen for a good while.
DiipuSurotu
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Sadly it's not just 3. Those 3 were recruited and trained by other Islamists in Paris/Paris suburbs, and at least one of them went to Yemen to get even more training from Yemeni Islamists.
The_Squirrel_Menace
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They hacked the shop security cam, also they had contact with one of the hostage via text messages.
Anyhow, with these guys track record (Human Bomb, Roubaix Gang, Mohamed Merah and many more), I'm sure they knew exactly what they were doing.
Not saying the video doesn't looks confusing though. I imagine your heart is pumping like mad in this situation.
you have to wonder, if this particular individual, is one who stays away from news and social media... and had no idea that Police and the Nation was on high alert because of missing armed suspects...
and maybe.....juuuuuust maybe, today might not be the best idea to follow through on something he's planned oh so hard, for oh so long.
maybe postpone it a month...and eh, till then he might have actually had an epiphany that it wasn't a good idea in the first place.
but nope!
Oh sure, but I mean this particular crisis and those involved directly are now dealt with, which is good.
Yeah, get a big beamer or screen and put the news about the fight against the islamists on.
Maybe he expected police to have other things on their hands because of all that was going on.
ComputerMKII
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Updated the OP with a summary from the Guardian.
Or he just thought that everyone is so occupied with that terrorist attack that they won't notice him.
ComputerMKII
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Edit: (unconfirmed news deleted)
Police are on high alert.. one of their own was gun down....
the idea that just because they are looking for someone else... "i'll have a better chance at getting away at something" is idiotic, even most idiots would know better.
you'll have a better chance of being killed, than the original worse case scenario of just being caught.
The Gendarmerie Nationale has just posted a video on YT from the GIGN assault : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS57T5A0CIE
They've also posted some new photos on Twitter : https://twitter.com/Gendarmerie
They've also posted some new photos on Twitter : https://twitter.com/Gendarmerie
ComputerMKII
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That's a fuckload of ammo they've fired!
gutter_trash
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I doubt that, unity will prevail
Is that long haired person in the last tweet the guy who was hiding in there?
Yup
Kinda surreal seeing him so casually walking away.
DiipuSurotu
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Yup. Moreover, the GIGN forces that were dispatched to Montpellier to deal with this are from Marseille, not even the Parisian region.
I'm sure he's not that casual about it lol. I doubt he'll be getting much sleep tonight.
Did we learn how the brothers were spotted in the first place?
We need prison reform badly, that is for sure.
So sad This needs to be seen by everyone. They weren't insulting Mohammed, they were insulting fundamentalists. No one can object to that.
a) they're pros
b) they did go in from two sides
We need prison reform badly, that is for sure.
They actually shot a video of the Charlie Hebdo staff working on the Mohammad caricatures back in 2006. The last words
https://vimeo.com/116362234
So sad
This needs to be seen by everyone. They weren't insulting Mohammed, they were insulting fundamentalists. No one can object to that.a) they're pros
b) they did go in from two sides
DiipuSurotu
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Apparently he wasn't hiding in a box or cupboard, but an under-sink cabinet. Must have felt cramped in there, lol
Love this cartoon though:
"A shame we don't have a hostage..."
"(SMS) They're in the toilets / They're taking a nap / They're dumb / LOL they haven't seen me / Come save me"
Yeah, that's why I'm saying it looks surreal.
Don't know whether it has been posted yet, but...
This was the last drawing of Charb, the head of Charlie Hebdo, the one that was targeted by the terrorists wednesday (they killed as many people as they could, but specifically wanted to kill him).
Draw tuesday, if I'm not mistaken. It's on the verge of being scary.
"Still no terrorist attack in France"
"Wait! We have till the end of january to extend our best wishes!"
This was the last drawing of Charb, the head of Charlie Hebdo, the one that was targeted by the terrorists wednesday (they killed as many people as they could, but specifically wanted to kill him).
Draw tuesday, if I'm not mistaken. It's on the verge of being scary.
"Still no terrorist attack in France"
"Wait! We have till the end of january to extend our best wishes!"
Delta Assault
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This all reminds me of that Denzel Washington movie The Siege. Strange case of life imitating art.
lemmykoopa
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Don't know whether it has been posted yet, but...
This was the last drawing of Charb, the head of Charlie Hebdo, the one that was targeted by the terrorists wednesday (they killed as many people as they could, but specifically wanted to kill him).
Draw tuesday, if I'm not mistaken. It's on the verge of being scary.
"Still no terrorist attack in France"
"Wait! We have till the end of january to extend our best wishes!"
What does everyone else think about this cartoon?
I find it so provocative and dangerous. I very well could see a few nutjobs thinking "heh, wait we'll show you some attacks soon" upon seeing this one. I just don't see what a cartoon like that one brings on the table, why it is needed.
ComputerMKII
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I think the timing of this cartoon makes all the fun of it - in the most sinister way.
It's needed because if we start asking ourselves "will this offend X or Y?" then we can kiss freedom of speech goodbye. It's like saying "she shouldn't have worn such a short skirt".
You are not responsible for how other people react to what you say. If other people feel offended they chose to be offended and it's their problem.
I'm unsure if the best analogy is that of victim blaming a rape victim, but I am also unsure what would be a better one. Though I do think you're kind of ironically putting the blame on those who would take offense. I mean, would anyone really fault a Jew for taking offense to a cartoon portraying him as greedy and big nosed? Expression of potentially offensive content has a finer line than I think people give credit. (NOT excusing acts of violence. We can have nuanced thoughts on this discussion without approving of the horrific shit that went down)
I'm half and half on that whole issue myself. I think we need to understand that we can ask "will this offend X or Y?" and criticize provacative (purposfully or not) expressions and still allow for the freedom of speech. These aren't mutually exclusive beliefs here.
I thought so after seeing the sidney footage, but now I guess it's "normal" and supression means a lot more in real life than in Battlefield.
well from another video angle..it seemed like even after he made it outside, they were still shooting him when he was on the ground..
I don't know man, that whole situation looked dangerous for the police.....and their decision making had alot to do with it. So hopefully they learn from it.
FlyingSaucer
Banned
It's offensive, it makes me want to behead people. Serves them well.
What prevents them from being offended?
If they explain why it's so offensive (and it's a for a good, understable reason), it can even backfire on the offender.
That's how it should happen in a normal society.
sensui-tomo
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The way i see things is this " I may be offended by something and I can complain and send letters or make a thread on gaf but I'll never kill someone over it because no matter what they can offend me with (words/drawings/speeches) i'll never kill someone because that is more offensive than anything else i can do"
If you're offended and you want to kill someone, you need help.
ComputerMKII
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victreeb3l
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Its a shame they werent able to capture them alive but I'm just glad this whole thing is over. 4 more dead, so fucking senseless. This whole ordeal has left a pit in my stomach the last few days. I hope there arent anymore attacks in France or anywhere.
Nice, he can take his text messages and phone calls between rooms to clear lol
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