Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

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12Goblins said:
I'm able to see the thread and I don't have account, so I'm confused
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Mistake said:
I think you misunderstood me. You make it sound like he ignored the incident and went on some kind of tangent. I merely brought it up as a coincidence. He was pretty stunned like everyone else
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Ah I see. It's not unusual for him to completely miss the cultural importance of something like this :messenger_confounded:
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
Aye true, but even the normies are rejecting it, box office takings are through the floor, the race bending has become a trope and most AAA is in the pan, its definitely being noticed somewhat.
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Oh yeah. Normies were tolerant or indifferent about this (especially in entertainment), but there was definite pushback or rejection when it came to pushing trans stuff onto children. Several Pixar, MCU, and Disney movies flopped hard in the last two years or so, as did the failed rebrands. And what they promised to these companies (more profit and competitiveness) has categorically failed
Dr.Morris79 said:
I know, it's just so bloody depressing when you think about it.

I'm quite concerned as my lad is now coming of age where Uni is on the agenda, his mums really wanting him to go, and I know full well what the Uni's are like here :messenger_unamused:

I'd rather he just learnt a trade.
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Well… getting indoctrinated really depends on how strong someone's worldview is, how much they crave belonging to groups, how easy they are to manipulate, and whether they truly lack critical thinking. I think social and humanities careers are especially infested with this shit....but I dunno.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Cowards.
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Took long enough. I expected it to happen much sooner. What blew my mind is how little self awareness they seemed to have. The thread made the community look like a bunch of psychopaths, which I guess had to happen at some point because a significant portion of them probably are.

edit: oh it's back. Maybe they cleaned it up?
 
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I can't deny I'm not enjoying seeing a lot of these people getting fired.
After those bullshit situations where a mob went looking for naughty comments someone wrote 10 years ago on twitter and then tried to destroy entire lives because of it, this just feels like righteous payback.
Karma doesn't spare anyone.

At the same time a lot of people around the internet from all sides including here seem to have drunk a bit too much of their own cool-aid.

These past few days have been both quite funny and sad to witness.
 
3liteDragon said:
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I don't feel bad for any of these people. It's fine to chalk it up to "another gun death" or whatever you want to label it as, but to go out of your way to let everyone know you don't care about him, specifically, or celebrate it... Takes a special kind of deranged that should probably belong in a psych ward.
 
Mortisfacio said:
I don't feel bad for any of these people. It's fine to chalk it up to "another gun death" or whatever you want to label it as, but to go out of your way to let everyone know you don't care about him, specifically, or celebrate it... Takes a special kind of deranged that should probably belong in a psych ward.
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Not a fan of the precedent it sets but yeah, couldn't give less of a shit about any of these scumbags
 
TheAtomicPile said:
Right wing cancel culture got out of control real fast, eh?
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They're just using their rules against them. But this isn't just some political opinion that these people like to cancel others over. These people are straight up endorsing/advocating/celebrating flat out murder. I'd say that's pretty bad.
 
Three said:
You think it's the immigrants who are debating the "incompatible values" that got this guy killed? Things like pro-abortion and LGBT? Come the fuck on, the US is already fighting with itself regarding its "values", this isn't about immigrants.
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You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about "incompatible values" getting Charlie Kirk killed, I said empathy is being weaponized by liberal politicians to flood the west with "refugees" and "immigrants" from regions of the world that do not hold the same values we do.
 
There is no such thing as "Right Wing Cancel Culture".... Conservatives are merely upholding the rules/values liberals/democrats established. It was an inevitable consequence that short sighted leftists did not consider and now that the shoe is on the other foot suddenly they believe they are entitled to freedom of speech without repercussions. Remember, "words are violence."
 
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GudOlRub said:
These past few days have been both quite funny and sad to witness.
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People should see the massive key difference between an isolated opinion or joke from an individual and an "opinion" endorsed, encouraged, and held by a very large group within the political spectrum, including those in positions of power (the ones who are supposedly the adults in the room).

The incredible irony is that this Kool-Aid (assuming you mean what I think you mean) is that this wave of "cancelations" isn't about canceling individuals, but about literally canceling a culture



What culture?

The Fascist Culture.

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JackHanma said:
You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about "incompatible values" getting Charlie Kirk killed, I said empathy is being weaponized by liberal politicians to flood the west with "refugees" and "immigrants" from regions of the world that do not hold the same values we do.
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Lets pretend that this is true for a minute. Who in the world thinks that refugees will have left leaning beliefs? There are next to no countries outside of Europe that are more left than the US. Most countries in the world will be more conservative. So what kind of strategy would it be to bring in conservative migrants to bolster the left?
 
JackHanma said:
There is no such thing as "Right Wing Cancel Culture".... Conservatives are merely upholding the rules/values liberals/democrats established. It was an inevitable consequence that short sighted leftists did not consider and now that the shoe is on the other foot suddenly they believe they are entitled to freedom of speech without repercussions. Remember, "words are violence."
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Its always gone both ways. One of the earliest forms of cancel culture was getting Kotaku's advertisers cut. It wasn't right wing exclusively at that point. It was anyone anti PC.

You can choose to participate in it but you've fully given up all legitimacy to criticize it, and will be guilty of everything that was criticized before. There is a difference between justice and just eye for an eye revenge. Eye for an eye can seem like justice but as the saying goes it leaves the world blind because it just keeps going. Modern justice is about corrective action while not succumbing to revenge and committing the same things being punished.

And again this goes past cancel culture. Its calling them murderers and listing their public info. Its pretty much a hit list.
 
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Kacho said:
Not a fan of the precedent it sets but yeah, couldn't give less of a shit about any of these scumbags
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And the most odd part is, they brag about it online.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys shop celebrated exchange gifts due to how deep their hated
 
TheAtomicPile said:
Right wing cancel culture got out of control real fast, eh?
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Most idiotic "gotcha" to come out of this yet. Did cancel culture just become bad in the last few days or something? Seems like the real hypocrites are the folks who were perfectly fine with the tool being used until it started being used on them.
 
SkylineRKR said:
I've been calling social media the root of most societal problems for ages. I abandoned FB and Twitter over 10 years ago. The problem is that its easier to hate on these platforms since you are anonymous, on your sofa and you don't see the person in real life so you won't have any affinity with another which might change your tune. This creates a much colder society.

And if it so happens and you are kind of unstable, a loner, bit of a loser or easy to manipulate, chances of radicalizing via socials are a high possibility. You'll usually see a lot of parotting on these platforms and viscious attacks if you disagree so yeah.
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The only reason I use Twitter is to see gaming news but it's become a cesspool of politics and AI Generated Crap. The best days of the internet were the 2000-2010's, not it's pretty fully corpo and government controlled, and there's no privacy whatsoever.

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These people must be scared out of their wits with the feds on their tail.
 
methane47 said:
Lets pretend that this is true for a minute. Who in the world thinks that refugees will have left leaning beliefs? There are next to no countries outside of Europe that are more left than the US. Most countries in the world will be more conservative. So what kind of strategy would it be to bring in conservative migrants to bolster the left?
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The point isn't to bring in conservative or liberal migrants, the point is to bring in migrants that are heavily reliant on government subsidies so that they can keep leftists in power forever.
 
ReBurn said:
Most idiotic "gotcha" to come out of this yet. Did cancel culture just become bad in the last few days or something? Seems like the real hypocrites are the folks who were perfectly fine with the tool being used until it started being used on them.
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Aww it'll be ok little guy. It's just sad seeing the right look in the mirror and finding a triggered, cancel-happy wokie staring back at them after so many years pretending to be above it.
 
TheAtomicPile said:
Is this the same line as when Melissa Hortman was killed by the Trump voter or was that a different line?
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Read more about this, she was murdered by a crazy person who worked for Tim Waltz and also mentioned in his writings that Tim Waltz told him to do it. He also had "No Kings" stickers in his car (which was an anti Trump thing).

methane47 said:
Lets pretend that this is true for a minute. Who in the world thinks that refugees will have left leaning beliefs? There are next to no countries outside of Europe that are more left than the US. Most countries in the world will be more conservative. So what kind of strategy would it be to bring in conservative migrants to bolster the left?
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The Left main base of thinking is that these people have no agency and are dumb, and they will educate them and show them the light. I had a friend who once told me Blacks can't get IDs because they don't know how, yes that happened.

So yeah, they think they'll bring them into the country and because they brought them in, they will repay them by voting for them.

You see how the Left ties itself with Islamists, even though Islam is basically 180 from everything liberals are supposed to believe. I mean, Queers for Palestine is a great example of cognitive dissonance.
 
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TheAtomicPile said:
Aww it'll be ok little guy. It's just sad seeing the right look in the mirror and finding a triggered, cancel-happy wokie staring back at them after so many years pretending to be above it.
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To be fair, I think "let's fire this person for celebrating the death of someone because they said mean things" and "let's fire someone because they don't support the same things I do" are two very different levels.
 
Mortisfacio said:
To be fair, I think "let's fire this person for celebrating the death of someone because they said mean things" and "let's fire someone because they don't support the same things I do" are two very different levels.
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I am conservative and I believe that people should be entitled to share their opinions and not be punished financially/professionally for doing so. To paraphrase Mark Twain, "I may not believe in what you say, but I will defend your right to say it".
 
ReBurn said:
Most idiotic "gotcha" to come out of this yet. Did cancel culture just become bad in the last few days or something? Seems like the real hypocrites are the folks who were perfectly fine with the tool being used until it started being used on them.
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I mean, I don't care if you put a spotlight on what people say, in fact I bet a lot of these people are probably proud of what they said, but the witch-hunt aspect of it is a bit unhinged.
Like going after this guy putting up Charlie Kirk quotes?
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Ur still allowed to dislike someone right?
 
I will say this: if your intent is to incite or normalize political violence on other people for having different ideologies then cancel culture is a okay. That's my line.

That shit can't continue to happen or we all lose no matter where you stand.
 
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Scrawnton said:
They unlocked it and it's open for public view again.
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I bet the reason they opened it backup was because their traffic probably took a nosedive. We've got more traffic than era rn.
EL + Staff seem to be betting on whether or not we can keep discourse without scorched earth rhetoric and devolving into political baboons.
 
ADiTAR said:
Read more about this, she was murdered by a crazy person who worked for Tim Waltz and also mentioned in his writings that Tim Waltz told him to do it. He also had "No Kings" stickers in his car (which was an anti Trump thing).
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It was an external board position, of which there are thousands. Since I keep seeing these lies spread, here are the facts:

- He had previously registered as a Republican.
- Friends identified him as a Trump supporter.
- He identified himself as an anti-abortion evangelical Christian.
- His hit list was exclusively Democrats.
 
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TheAtomicPile said:
It was an external board position, of which there are thousands. Since I keep seeing these lies spread, here are the facts:

- He had previously registered as a Republican.
- Friends identified him as a Trump supporter.
- He identified himself as an anti-abortion evangelical Christian.
- His hit list was exclusively Democrats.
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care to link?
 
ADiTAR said:
care to link?
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All set friend.

Mortisfacio said:
To be fair, I think "let's fire this person for celebrating the death of someone because they said mean things" and "let's fire someone because they don't support the same things I do" are two very different levels.
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Sure, it is interesting that the left seems to get "set off" by different things than the right. How big would the left's creepy tracking database be if they cared to track people who mocked Paul Pelosi, Biden's cancer diagnosis, or Hortman's death (that list would include a sitting US senator, by the way)?
 
JayK47 said:
I feel like it should be posted, word for word. We will see if he is right and people realize what is going on. We will see if people still remember in 2026. I sincerely have my doubts.
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I honestly hope that no one remembers in 2026 because we all joined hands and became peaceful and loved each other again

But since 2026 is the midterm elections, I have a feeling people will definitely remember and there's going to be lot of finger pointing about whose fault it is the next few years. I wish I was wrong but this is the kind of thing politicians love to exploit as it riles the people up on every side
 
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