Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event
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Tries to get people fired over a joke they made 15 years ago on Facebook.
Adds "views are my own" on Twitter bio so they can keep their job.
We used to have standards and customs for proper society. No one is asking that guy to put on a suit (though he apparently has one as he wears in the other video) but to show up on stage in sweatpants and t-shirt is just lacking in class and disrespects the hallowed halls of Oxford, the nation of England, and most importantly, himself. Schlump fashion might be tolerated in bro-tech situations, but academics should strive for a higher standard.
I get it, appearence is more important.
We used to have standards and customs for proper society. No one is asking that guy to put on a suit (though he apparently has one as he wears in the other video) but to show up on stage in sweatpants and t-shirt is just lacking in class and disrespects the hallowed halls of Oxford, the nation of England, and most importantly, himself. Schlump fashion might be tolerated in bro-tech situations, but academics should strive for a higher standard.
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Tucker Carlson says Trump Administration is attacking free speech
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson hit out at the Trump administration for using conservative commentator Charlie Kirk's assassination to attack First Amendment rights.
I'm, personally, against Disney axing Kimmel's show.
But let's be clear, Disney and Nextar didn't axe the show because of the commentary, they both have big mergers coming up and they did this just to appease to the current administration and FCC to get those mergers approved.
Business trumps all political affiliations and perceived free speech here.
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calico
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Remember when they deplatformed the leader of their political opposition so thoroughly he had to build his own social media platform just to be able to communicate with his supporters at all? Then despite the immense power of the state being deployed against him and multiple assassination attempts he rose from the ashes like a Phoenix to achieve the greatest political comeback in American history?
Madflavor
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Yeah I don't have a strong stance on the vaccine thing, but shit like this is why I hate him. Not to mention him gloating when other people got cancelled.
He's such a fucking weasel wrapped in human skin. If you put on the glasses from They Live and looked at him, you'd see this:
His voice even sounds like a weasel too.
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Eesha
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I just noted only now that is Ben Stiller that tweeted that
guess i just went full retard myself.
SEGAvangelist
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If Trump was behind it, I just think Trump was pissed that Kimmel implied he didn't care about Kirk.Tucker Carlson says Trump Administration is attacking free speech
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson hit out at the Trump administration for using conservative commentator Charlie Kirk's assassination to attack First Amendment rights.www.dailymail.co.uk
I'm, personally, against Disney axing Kimmel's show.
But let's be clear, Disney and Nextar didn't axe the show because of the commentary, they both have big mergers coming up and they did this just to appease to the current administration and FCC to get those mergers approved.
Business trumps all political affiliations and perceived free speech here.
StreetsofBeige
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Not surprised one bit.
You dont need a poll to see which extreme side loves mobs, angry protests, burning cars and smashing stores, looting, and ultimately promoting killing.
That wacky extra emotional lefty brain does that to a person. Same type of person in board meetings who cant control themselves being chill. Always got to be asking questions rapid fire getting attention with a smirk on their face with the stupidest questions.
And the left is supposed to be the side promoting everyone has an opinion, harsh punishment and death penalties are a no-no, and going way back: let's just relax as hippies and do a bit of weed to chill.
So much for that.
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Reizo Ryuu
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It's a school bruv, not a religion that requires zealotry around appearance, so wear whatever you want as long as it's not obscene and be judged for the content of your character instead.
You DON'T get it.
You think a superficial appearance is the most important factor but that can cover an ugly personality.
That isn't true. While appearances can set the first impression, the key component is that a good personality ALSO makes an effort to display an appropriate exterior. Charlie shows up in a suit because he is orderly, mannerly, organized, detailed, prepared, and most importantly, respects himself, his audience, and his setting because he values western culture and makes an effort to represent it within himself. That oxford union guy shows up looking like a slob because he DISRESPECTS Charlie, wants to clown on him by saying "you ain't worth my time, gov..." and by extension he is clowning on Oxford, the audience that bothered to show up, and most importantly he is clowning himself. There is NO society on the planet where showing up like that represents positive qualities that encourage folks to take you seriously, weigh your words carefully, and, in effect, take you seriously. He is trying to make a cool negative statement and ends up looking the fool.
Says a guy that clearly has no value for the history of the institution or what it (used to?) represent. Show up to a job interview for anything other than cleaning toilets in sweats and at-shirt, see how many offers you get. "Content of Character" is a reflection of your exterior appearance as well., it's ludicrous to day otherwise. A t-shirt and sweats is as much a costume and an attempt to make a statement as a tailored three piece suit. But while the suit says "I'm here to be serious and I have the resources to back it up" the sweats says "I can barely govern myself, much less organize my thoughts to walk and chew gum at the same time".
It's a school bruv, not a religion that requires zealotry around appearance, so wear whatever you want as long as it's not obscene and be judged for the content of your character instead.
Whether the appearance ACCURATELY reflects the thoughts of the person is a somewhat adjacent question, though I'd say that 95% of folks who show up in a suit are more serious about the event than 95% of the folks who show up in their pajamas. Unless that guy was literally pulled from his bed to go talk to Charlie, he is making a deliberate attempt to show how little he thinks of Charlie while Charlie, who can probably think laps around that guy regardless, at least gives him the courtesy of respect. That ALONE speaks to the character of each man.
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Grildon Tundy
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Something tells me you had a very specific person in mind when you wrote this lol
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Wasn't he essentially saying this thread has been an echo chamber? Ive never been to Resetera, but this thread definitely comes off (based on Gaffers explanations) as a right sided Resetera?
I will say though, GAF seems to have become a whiner's paradise. Instead of propping up games people love, there seems to be just as much, if not more complaining of games, the characters and the devs. And not just the normal "im not a fan of that character", but, more of "that character is ugly as dog shit and whats wrong with these stupid developers."
Both sides of the coins love to complain one wayor another and then blame the "otherside" for having an "agenda" of some sort without realizing that they themselves have an agenda. Only each side thinks their agenda is better than the other.
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My wife and i were talking about this the other day, looking at post ww2 photos. The men and women just looked cleaner, more presentable and well dressed. And its not a total vanity thing, its respect for who you are and where youre standing, what youre representing. Its a parallel of your work ethic and dignity portrayed outward. You give a damn, and it shows on the outside.
We used to have standards and customs for proper society. No one is asking that guy to put on a suit (though he apparently has one as he wears in the other video) but to show up on stage in sweatpants and t-shirt is just lacking in class and disrespects the hallowed halls of Oxford, the nation of England, and most importantly, himself. Schlump fashion might be tolerated in bro-tech situations, but academics should strive for a higher standard.
I run hiring events for our county. Ill get like 20 employers to show up, all ready to hire. 2\3 of the attendees / job seekers show up in fucking pajamas, slip ons, ratty clothes, or wearing indecent slogans. Im like wtf....i havent even talked to you yet and i already know what i need to.....
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StreetsofBeige
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I'm surprised at that too. I dont know what the ratios are, but supposedly the young crowd voted for Repub more than usual. Which is interesting since the younger crowd always trends to liberal. And with social media, all the anti-Treump rhetoric and cackling Harris promoting her platform with Beyonce and Taylor Swift, I thought it's be a slam dunk win for liberals and even gain more support.
Guess not as it's changing as they preferred Trump's stance on things over Biden/Harris.
Reizo Ryuu
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...it's a school, "hallowed" means made holy and thus should be worshipped, that belongs in religion, not education.
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projection.
I'll never wear a suit because I hate them, they are uncomfortable and boring; women get to wear whatever they want, in whatever colour they want as long as it isn't obscene and still be considered for their whole person, yet men have to show up in the restrictive boring gray portable prisons we call a "suit and tie".
Remember the ridiculous obama "tan suit" controversy? Pure comedy.
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aclar00
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I do mostly agree with this, sometimes things need to be done over an extended period of time as not to over stimulate and force large scale changes too rapidly, but i also think that sometimes a band-aid just needs to be ripped off or you just need to jump in the cold ass water and not tiptoe in.
Depends on the situation i guess....both play a part in life though.
StreetsofBeige
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Good to see 94 dems vote yes at least.
Looks bad on them to have a divided front, especially on an issue regarding honouring someone killed.
It's amazing how the left (esp. politicians) keep making themselves look so low brow. Double down, triple down, quadruple down. You'd think with how bad they are perceived, Trump winning, and the pendulum swinging back hard, that they'd inch over a bit more to the moderate part of the spectrum.
I guess the politicians must be super confident their views, it makes them look better than the right and will ultimately get them more political power in future elections.
He said Charlie was a millioner so he could afford a suit. I said anyone can spruce up their look inexpensively.
No,you DON'T get it. I, personally, don't give a shit what you wear to a meeting or anything else because it's not important to me on a technical/intellectual environment.
Honestly, someone that show in a suit on a work environment, i always think that person is trying to compensante for something. People that show up in a suit in my work environment are usually the ones that don't know a fucking thing about what they're about to enter.
I'll guess you're one of those that shat on Zelensky because he dared to show on regular clothes.
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Bro him being a grifting piece of shit has no bearing on federal orgs pressuring corps to can people for wrong think. Just like what CK said has no bearing on wether or he deserved to get shot. What are we talking aboutYeah I don't have a strong stance on the vaccine thing, but shit like this is why I hate him. Not to mention him gloating when other people got cancelled.
He's such a fucking weasel wrapped in human skin. If you put on the glasses from They Live and looked at him, you'd see this:
His voice even sounds like a weasel too.
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Trilobit
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Does anyone have any idea about how long the investigation could take before it goes to trial? I know with Kohberger it took a long time for them to gather and analyze evidence and after 3 years or so he pled guilty.
In Tyler's case he basically admitted the murder and gave himself up and there's lots of digital tracks they can use. But they also need to physically tie him to everything and make a watertight case.
Are there any youtube channels that have gone over the legal logistics of it?
In Tyler's case he basically admitted the murder and gave himself up and there's lots of digital tracks they can use. But they also need to physically tie him to everything and make a watertight case.
Are there any youtube channels that have gone over the legal logistics of it?
Angry_Megalodon
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Personal appearance is very important. As much as being articulate in the way you write or talk. Those are signals of a sound mind. Unless you are a billionaire IT genius who lives in a bubble, if the person presents himself with a poor hygiene and dressing code, you can bet his personality will match his looks.
calico
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An expectation of respecting your surroundings and the occasion with how you present yourself is not limited to religious settings.
Domestic violence was also very acceptable.... The very thing some groups are using to point the finger at Muslim immigrants (the fact they don't give a shit if a husband beat up his wife)
Reizo Ryuu
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definition 1: holy consecrated
definition 2: sacred, revered
Sounds pretty religiously inclined to me
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Says who? You. I can show up to a meeting in jeans and a polo shirt and run circles around some of the clowns in suits there.
StreetsofBeige
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Oh no, they got Captain Antifa.
Low Brow Alert! Low Brow Alert!
At about the 3:04 mark some guy yelled something about student loans. LOL. I paid off my undergrad AND grad school loans no problem.
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calico
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The second meaning literally gives university halls as an example for how the word can be used.definition 1: holy consecrated
definition 2: sacred, revered
Sounds pretty religiously inclined to me
Reizo Ryuu
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...the sacred/revered university halls? the sacred/revered customs?
I only hear dogma bruv.
StreetsofBeige
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Yup.
For a lot of bottom rung people, if they tidied themselves up, and manned up learning how to write a good resume and answer questions effectively, they'll get a decent job and then build from there. Build up nicely and never have to worry about bottom feeder people or jobs ever again. Not hard. Heck, just google resume templates, how to act in interviews and example Q&A the interviewer will grill you with. Look good and be chill. Fuck, you dont even have to be fluent in English. It's like 1/4 the people in every office I worked had workers with an accent.
Problem is a lot of retards stay at the bottom because they look ratty, act low brow, and never mind that..... they probably can even get a foot in the door to talk with the junior HR person dishing out canned questions in her screener interview because they got a trashy resume they put no effort in. Even coming out of university, companies will give new grads a chance. They want cheap labour and someone they can groom to something bigger. You cant get that with a 20 year vet who is already commanding 3x the salary and is steadfast in the way he works.
You dont need top marks or be ultra extra-curricular jock or musician either. Just have a good resume, have some shitty McDonalds job on your resume to prove you can at least handle that during school or summer breaks and there you go. You should get some new grad interviews. From there, handle the interview well and score the job. Make some money, get promoted, and there you go.
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Mock whatever the fuck you want. Fact is they all dressed smart and beyond close doors it was a different story. Case in point, only in recent years it was a considered a crime.
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Fact? I don't see any facts presented from you. Not being a crime till recently doesn't point to it being more prevalentent in the past. In fact, that points to the opposite.
Kacho
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Trump declared Antifa a terrorist organization in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death. Immediately after that Antifa cells activated.
Last night we saw organic anti-Charlie "protests" in NYC and Boston. Today this.
The temperature is not going down. It's only a matter of time before someone else gets killed. Rinse repeat.
You do realize that there is a CHURCH at the very center of Oxford University....right?definition 1: holy consecrated
definition 2: sacred, revered
Sounds pretty religiously inclined to me
Welcome to the University Church | University Church of St Mary the Virgin
www.universitychurch.ox.ac.uk
Whether you like it or not, it is virtually impossible to disassociate the church (or some sort of religious structure) with most historic universities in england (and indeed most of Europe and the US, if not the world).
12Goblins
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Personal appearance is only important to project competence or social intelligence, but it actually has no bearing on intelligence or mental stability as you put it.
The smartest people in the world look like bums and clueless dorks, ie Steve Wozniak, Saul Kripke, etc
Reizo Ryuu
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who cares? the church is what the university grew from, most faculty buildings aren't churches nor is anyone required to be christian to attend; I went to a christian school with "christian" literally in the name of it, doesn't mean I had to clasp a bible and walk around in robes, because that dogmatic shit doesn't belong in education and why school are expected to remain neutral; separation of church and state and all that
Angry_Megalodon
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In no western society beating wives up was ever an acceptable thing and this I know first hand from my grandma. She married a real bastard who in the end got what he deserved. And no, he could not boast of smacking his wife or else he would have been ostracized much sooner.
You are referring to psychos (the 0,000001% of the population) to ilustrate a general point.
You do realize that there is a CHURCH at the very center of Oxford University....right?
Welcome to the University Church | University Church of St Mary the Virgin
Whether you like it or not, it is virtually impossible to disassociate the church (or some sort of religious structure) with most historic universities in england (and indeed most of Europe and the US, if not the world).
In Spain too. Every top Business School or private college is linked to some christian organization. I studied in two of them and we wore uniforms, but that was pretty much it.
But would you show up in a t-shirt and sweats?
A polo and jeans (I'm gonna guess they are clean, not ripped or torn, and not excessively faded) is a middle class mode of dress. I also assume you are in a middle class profession, probably IT, and not senior management if that's what you are wearing. It also seems like you have a low opinion of the people you work with/for, which probably means they have a similar opinion of YOU and your style of dress reflects the relationship accordingly.
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