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Cincinnati braces for footage release in campus cop killing (Up: Murder charge)
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3 other officers lied to cover this up? Just wow.
Just think, no bodycam, no way this comes out. I'm guessing this has happened and the police have gotten away with it way more often than anyone would care to admit.
So, how come this video just didn't go missing? If they were willing to cover this up, then why not do it right?
Mass Effect
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I do to. Hope they release it.
I mean, if he wanted to get away which I think he did (as he refuses to get out, he reaches for the ignition (if it's the same side as UK - on the right) which is what prompted the officer), why did it only happen when he is killed (and loses control obviously). If it was just as simple as putting your foot down, why didn't he do it.
The officer can claim he may have tried to drag him...but I don't think that holds up.
Clearer video would show if he's holding onto him or not.
Maybe he didn't want to injure the officer by driving with him in it... as he knows that would lead to him possibly being shot at/more serious than just driving away. Or it may just have happened too quick for him to process properly.
Mammoth Jones
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DrForester
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I only caught the end of the bodycam footage, but is the whole story of the driver handing him a bottle of beer false too?
onadesertedisland
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If the story is that a bottle of beer was passed over, then yes. It was a closed fifth of cheap gin.
There was a bottle of gin he handed the cop when the cop saw it on the floor.It was not open.
bodyofanamerican
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edit: nevermind, I was wrong. Thank you, poster right above me.
gutterboy44
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Jesus christ, if what we see in this video can even remotely be justified as, "a possibly danger to the cop's life" in defense of him using lethal force, than I guess highway patrol officers are going to have to headshot every passing car when they pull someone over on the highway, because they are in constant danger while standing next to a pulled over car while on the highway.
What the fuck happened to deescalation? Especially with a bullshit traffic stop. Isn't that supposed to be the first step, always?! Guy with an RPG and hostages...deescalation. Drunk dude wanting to jump off a balcony...deescalate. Domestic abuse call, deescalate. If you are unable to connect the dots and see how clear it is that blacks in america seldom get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to deescalation and moreover, receive the most violent levels of escalation at the hands of the police, than you are either fucking blind, willfully ignorant or a bigot.
What the fuck happened to deescalation? Especially with a bullshit traffic stop. Isn't that supposed to be the first step, always?! Guy with an RPG and hostages...deescalation. Drunk dude wanting to jump off a balcony...deescalate. Domestic abuse call, deescalate. If you are unable to connect the dots and see how clear it is that blacks in america seldom get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to deescalation and moreover, receive the most violent levels of escalation at the hands of the police, than you are either fucking blind, willfully ignorant or a bigot.
BobTheFork
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I'm glad the officer was charged, now the 'accessory to murder' change ready or it doesn't mean much.
shadowsdarknes
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Lol if Emperor Obama were to actually get involved in some top down action, the country would implode.
Wow, didn't the original stories say that when asked for his license he produced a bottle instead? That's a pretty disgusting misrepresentation of the facts.
Mammoth Jones
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Now consider this:
The ONLY reason this is getting attention is because the body cam contradicts the officer. Imagine all the other deaths that have occurred where everyone gives the cop the benefit of the doubt.
The ONLY reason this is getting attention is because the body cam contradicts the officer. Imagine all the other deaths that have occurred where everyone gives the cop the benefit of the doubt.
/r/ProtectandServe is pretty laughable, too.
This job, along with the military, is always going to attract assholes who want to use and abuse power over other people due to its nature. You can weed some of them out (Zimmerman's multiple failed attempts to join are an example of the system doing its job correctly), but people will always be able to lie and cover for themselves. 24/7 monitoring via cameras is a huge step in getting even the assholes to behave- but it won't help a department like the NYPD which is rotten to is core.
Yup. 24/7 monitoring while on the job is imperative.
Crimson_Gold
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I am beyond words. There is no justification for this. There are no excuses. I swear people find more ways to excuse officers gunning down black people than I could have ever imagined. This should've never happened. Unfortunately, this is happening damn near every day
this will hopefully push for required body cams at all times on the officer. Video Facts vs bullshit wording. Can't fight against clear as day video.
The monitoring I'm talking about is psychological monitoring. Everyone knows it's a high-stress job being a beat cop. It wears you down.
There needs to be better mental-health vetting and monitoring for all cops and service people.
MSNBC finally showed the unedited footage. It looks like DuBose was trying to shield his head with his left arm before getting shot.
Screenshots:
Arm up
http://i.imgur.com/xgGxA8p.png
After being shot.
http://i.imgur.com/SUZfaVb.png
Screenshots:
Arm up
http://i.imgur.com/xgGxA8p.png
After being shot.
http://i.imgur.com/SUZfaVb.png
Black Republican
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just saw the video, glad for body cameras, and honestly surprised the officer took it that far despite wearing it. I guess he thought hed get away with it no problems.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
DrForester
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REQUEST: Someone's going to do it, but when it happens, can people please make sure to warn us before linking to the inevitable "image stabilization" version of the body cam. I don't want to see that.
Its true. I was on the officers side based on original report. I heard about the bottle of booze and assumed he was drunk. Assumed he sped off, and the officer shot him to stop a drunk driver from possibly harming the public.
All bullshit.
Its true. I was on the officers side based on original report. I heard about the bottle of booze and assumed he was drunk. Assumed he sped off, and the officer shot him to stop a drunk driver from possibly harming the public.
All bullshit.
Imagine what would be different if we had video of the Michael Brown shooting. :-/
cop opens the car door
victim shuts it
cop stick his hand in the car to grab the keys
shoots him in the face
StopMakingSense
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Given the super-wide nature of the cam and the jerkiness of the motion, i don't think it will be that stabilize-able.
And censored, which is nice for squeamish people, I suppose.
You automatically take the side of the cop just because he's a cop and alive and his report said so?
How could you have possibly thought that was a good idea?
So, he shot him because he started the car? Changes nothing, but this video gives a clearer sequence of events. Still a clear case of murder. Absolutely horrible.
Grab the keys? Looks more like he grabs the man or maybe the seat belt. Hard to tell, tho.
Sam Dubose made NO ATTEMPT to drive away before the office shot him.
That car didn't move until Sam has a bullet in his head.
onadesertedisland
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Easier to see that the officer reached in after the victim turned on the ignition.
DrForester
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I assumed the guy was drunk based on the story of the bottle of booze being passed to the officer. I have very little sympathy for drunk drivers. Just shows how the story can so easily be manipulated to the public.
just saw it on MSNBC too. The car wasn't in gear when the cop was walking up to it (or if it was, there were no brake lights so I don't know how that works). It sounded like when he reached for the ignition the engine did turn over and begin running at that point.
That said, the driving away was most definitely post-shooting. The gin bottle was specifically asked for (not handed over when the license was asked for). And it definitely didn't look like there was any cause at all for escalating to firearm use IMO
That said, the driving away was most definitely post-shooting. The gin bottle was specifically asked for (not handed over when the license was asked for). And it definitely didn't look like there was any cause at all for escalating to firearm use IMO
Easier to see that the officer had no reason to reach in and no reason to shoot, too.
It wasn't manipulated by the public. The story was manipulated by the cop.
You just took his side because he was a cop despite all the bullshit they've been pulling lately.
There are multiple sides to every story until one of the sides is gunned down. It's a good thing we have cameras these days.
At least your eyes are finally starting to open to the truth.
Hands up, don't shoot.
Also appears in those that officer was going for HIM rather than the keys like I thought I saw earlier.
deejay8595
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Are you kidding me man???
Eighty Deuce
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Jeez, it situation goes from 0-100 the moment the dude starts his car.
stuminus3
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Holy mother of... wow. This is insane.
Yeah that video is much clearer in both video/audio. You can clearly see that he turns the car off during their conversation, and once the officer asks for him to take his seatbelt off he turns the car back on. It seems like that like is what spurs the officer to reach inside the car.
Not that that is any excuse for straight up murdering him.
Lost Fragment
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The camera was probably the last thing on the dude's mind at the time.
RPGCrazied
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Prison for life. And god, we seriously need some law enforcement reform or something asap.
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