Dixon's Jet
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They want martyrdom? Good. The United States can help them with that. I hope that lots of ISIS soldiers died, and that this bombing spreads fear throughout their ranks.
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CNN: US drops its largest conventional bomb (MOAB) on ISIS target in Afghanistan
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Quoting this for new page and to counter kneejerk reactions.
Stormhammer
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yes, i think you've figured it out. trump just picks what he wants and presses the "make bomb" button and that bomb is made and then he presses the "explode here" button and it explodes there. it's really that simple
Also, a thank you to gamechanger87 for the educational and level headed post ♥
No it isn't, I mean it isn't the same blast of course, but 1 mile blast radius still means that in that mile people get hurt and horribly injured. So it might not be burn wounds and radiation like with an Atom bomb.. or even as much damage as an atom bomb. It still is severed limbs and people dying.
So just like I say, "sooo classy!", I mean you're already falling for it!
Great No radiation and not as deadly. Whoopee... Just some maimed people and things like that. It's a classy bomb for classy people, it's fabulous, let's spray it in gold coloured paint folks.
Ziltoidia 9
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My intentional was that the scenario would be a nuke being used as a weapon and not ajust a test.
If every bomb dropped was on the news then that would be the only news ever on.
Fucking hell 1 mile blast radius. Waiting on civilian casualty reports, I'm sure US did everything they could to minimise civilian deaths again.
We already know he thinks like this. He accused Obama of doing it over twitter.
We already know he thinks like this. He accused Obama of doing it over twitter.
nitekrawlwer
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CNN said:
I mean the article in the OP implies there are civilian casualties. I can't imagine a scenario where they would not have been quick to tout the lack of any collateral damage if that were the case.
It's a classy bomb for classy people. No radiation, so clean folks. Same blast radius.. just not as many dead.. but just as many maimed. So terrific, I tell you folks, Putin wishes he had these babies. They are all going to respect us again once we drop these Classy Bombs on them, just you wait.
Also our Atomb bombs are also classy.
Sorry the guy you're replying to scares me with his "the modern atomb bomb.. blablabla" all I read is :"Look how classy it is in killing people!".
If we spend half our resources on constructive things rather than on these compensating phallus symbols, we'd be on Mars decades ago.
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Coriolanus
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Not quite. The criterion is broader. All you need to be is of military age. That's enough to get you pegged as an enemy combatant.
Going back to the French Indochina and subsequent Algerian war to the present , has military intervention ever been a successful counter insurgency method?
edit: I'm under the impression that the main lesson from those wars is that it is impossible to defeat insurgents by killing people
edit: I'm under the impression that the main lesson from those wars is that it is impossible to defeat insurgents by killing people
Shadow Puppetry
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Trump supporters on Facebook are saying this plan wasn't thought of last night, that it was planned out months ago...so thanks Obama?
Are you seriously implying that that thing is as classy as this one? I mean seriously, it doesn't even have gold spraypaint on it. It by far is not as terrific. Again Putin wishes he had these babies
.(I don't keep up well with weaponry, but that was what I mend, if we spend half our resources on constructive things we would have been on Mars for decades by now. But "fuck that, let's blow some shit up!" prevails again
. Amerika to Isis to Zimbabwe, so many men blowing shit up, starting to believe the Scum manifesto really is the answer .).Well, the Fat Boy in Pyongyang is really pushing his luck it seems.
Maybe this was a test run.
Fenderputty
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You Trump supporters need anything you can get at this point
Kim is a fat turd that puts people in concentration camps.
Kim also starves his people to get an extra cake himself.
Kim thinks his own firecrackers more important than the well being of his citizens.
Don't be like Kim.
Barry was an African American President who wanted to give healthcare to millions
Barry also wanted to raise the minimum wage so people could eat.
Barry planned on a slight tax increase to maintain roads and make sure everybody could have a slice of the cake.
Barry also wanted to make his firecrackers smaller, so that his citizens could have a better well being.
Be like Barry!
Any questions? Or do you really still want to be just like Kim?
I would argue that that job is an impossible accomplishment. American intervention is routinely emphasized to have radicalized and motivated these groups to attack us in the first place.
WMD typically means a weapon that has no control over who is being targeted, just anyone and everything in a large surrounding area is going to be affected by such a weapon.
That is why Biological, Chemical, and Nuclear weapons are what are mainly considered to be WMDs.
There are many other weapons that can be classed as a WMD, such as cluster bombs, Napalm, The MOAB, and such, but you would be hard pressed to have countries agree to classifying those weapons as WMDs as it would mean they won't be allowed to use it.
EDIT: I do wish Neogaf would calm down though, while this bomb does have a significant radius, it is all the more reason it wouldn't be used if too many civilians are in the area. I will not say there will be no civilian casualties, but we are likely not looking at large amount of civilians being in vicinity of this strike.
This bomb is perfect for sending the blast into cave systems and causing tunnels to collapse as well. Anyone in such a cave system hit with this bomb would likely die a very quick death.
The only reason I would say this is news worthy is due to it being the first time U.S has used it in combat and the sheer radius of it. Knowing this, I doubt any general in U.S (with a brain) would use this weapon with knowledge that many civilians would die to it, it would be way too publicized.
Local people I'm reading on Facebook commenting on this freak me right the hell out. If your reaction to news that we just dropped a bomb that could level the city you live in is "Great! We need more of those!" or "Haha I wish that everyone I don't like was there too!" then you don't deserve a place in civilization.
ISIS has an established presence in the Northeastern part of Afghanistan.
Man the bomb is huge.
Trump calls it his hand
BouncyFrag
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North Korea does look ready to test an underground nuke.At this rate, I would not be surprised to see 'The Day of the Sun.'
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/12/world/asia/north-korea-nuclear-test.html?_r=0
This bombing will just embolden them and play to their narrative.
shira
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wesleyshark
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/852584655555620865
Obama admin gave top American general in Afghanistan permission to use MOAB against Taliban & ISIS in January 2016 https://t.co/CSckpXNpt5
Obama admin gave top American general in Afghanistan permission to use MOAB against Taliban & ISIS in January 2016 https://t.co/CSckpXNpt5
OKay also don't be like Barry then. Be like Ghandi and just go on a hunger strike until you obtain peace?
It seems like these recent military strikes are softening the criticisms of Trump from at least a couple people that I know, and I hope that's not a general thing. A population that oohs and aahs over demonstrations of US military might combined with a leader that thrives on being admired and loved and with the power to flex that might is a seriously dangerous combination.
old manatee
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This almost made me forget that Donald Trump is a Russian stooge.
Dixon's Jet
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So you're saying that weakening them will just make them stronger. I disagree. They need to be militarily crushed so that their Caliphate is utterly discredited. Kill them all.
Well, the rest of the world will lose more and more respect for the USA, but then we can just go back to what we thought of the USA during the Bush Jr. years and take it even lower
. At least he was funny, this new one is... just .... scary.vonStirlitz
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Unless I am missing something, there seems to have been no pressing need to drop such a fuckton unexpectedly.
Seems to me that with the unexpected missile strike in Syria and the MOAB 'tunnel killer' bomb in Afghanistan, someone might well be signalling to NK in a not very subtle way.
I hope that fat knobhead in NK backs down. I think a pattern has been established in the past week that the US will use heavy ordinance for any provocation.
I am starting to get fed up of waking up to daily news about bombs.
Seems to me that with the unexpected missile strike in Syria and the MOAB 'tunnel killer' bomb in Afghanistan, someone might well be signalling to NK in a not very subtle way.
I hope that fat knobhead in NK backs down. I think a pattern has been established in the past week that the US will use heavy ordinance for any provocation.
I am starting to get fed up of waking up to daily news about bombs.
Weird that you want to mass murder people who think differently than you
And their 'Day of the Sun', as they call it is on Saturday. Kim IL Sung's birthday.
ISIS is being defeated thanks to conventional bombings right now. If you want to argue that terrorism won't disappear if only violence is used against it then I agree (but the last time I argue that the US could use something like a Plan Marshall for Middle East I was called a fool :/ ) but here we are talking about the caliphate, a state that won't exist unless it has territory under its control.
Maybe we should tell to the Peshmerga and the iraki forces that they should stop their offensives because it will only "embolden" ISIS.
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