COD4 reviewed by OXM (so basically it's better than everything)
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speculawyer
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Word to your mother.Guy Legend said:
speculawyer
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Resistance's great multi-player blows away Bioshock's non-existent multi-player. However, Resistance can't touch Bioshock's writing, voice-acting, art deco, etc.Atomspike said:
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Is the demo coming tomorrow for 360 too?
Guy Legend said:
It's pretty much between this and skate for me. Call of Duty is my favorite franchise out there, and skate blew my mind. Like everyone else is saying, it's been a good year (2 years, actually).
Although, I'm especially excited for COD4 because it's the first one that looks like it has great single player and multiplayer.
speculawyer
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Are you saying 8.5 is too high or too low for NBA 2K8?jobber said:
MWS Natural
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Atomspike said:
Well if sales is any indication Halo 3 takes a big dumb on Resistance and pretty much everything else this gen....Do you really want to go there? Sony fanboy talking about sales :lol
You obviously care if you brought up Resistance at all. Seems like you were crying about PS3 review scores just a page ago...I played Resistance and it's really nothing special; it's reviews reflect that. A good game but nothing extraordinary.
SonOfABeep
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Is Call of Duty 4 expected to have single player as good as Call of Duty 2's? Cause I absolutely loved that game and even finished it on veteran.
Seems like the emphasis is more on multiplayer now, I could be wrong, though.
And it goes without saying about that OTHER game.
Seems like the emphasis is more on multiplayer now, I could be wrong, though.
And it goes without saying about that OTHER game.
LiquidMetal14
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PS3 version day 1 for me.
beelzebozo
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another ten? what the fuck
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
speculawyer said:
too high
I don't know what build the reviewer got but the retail has huge bugs offline like your player shooting the ball without you hitting the shoot button then the game freezes.
and the lock on defense is awful and this comes from a huge 2k sports fanboy.
Sho_Nuff82
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Atomspike said:
The PS3 itself has barely sold 3x more than Bioshock, what on earth are you babbling about.
I agree that the use of 10's has been a bit liberal (it seems like no one's willing to use the ol' 9.5 these days except for Orange Box), but the fact of the matter is it's been an amazing couple of months for games, and Mario Galaxy, Mass Effect, Ratchet, and Crysis are still to come. I really do think that the games that have received them thus far have been that much better than the rest of the field this generation. A few tenths of a point here and there doesn't change that.
As long as there are only a handful of titles that average over 90 each year on gamerankings per platform, I think that reviewers are doing a good job of protecting us from crap and letting us know what rocks.
Is this "i can pull a number/approximation out of my ass" time ?Sho_Nuff82 said:
well actually , i admit we are both wrong ! Resistance sold roughly 2 times more than Bioshock , around 2 million for Resistance and around 1 million for Bioshock .
the Ps3 sold around 5 million , so it's 5 time more than Bioshock !
whatever makes you sleep at night .
Sho_Nuff82
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Atomspike said:
Take Two's press release said they shipped 1.5 million in two weeks. We don't have sales numbers for Europe, but it debuted at #1 in just about every country for 360 or PC.
AranhaHunter
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Guy Legend said:
Bioshock
AranhaHunter
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Sho_Nuff82 said:
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Sho_Nuff82
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That press release was over a month ago, as were the last sales reports we got.
If it's over 200k in September NPD it will probably pass 1.5 million (1 million US) on just 360 in 2007.
If it's over 200k in September NPD it will probably pass 1.5 million (1 million US) on just 360 in 2007.
GoofsterStud
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Oh man...I'm sick of the FPS is holier then thou bs...
I get it the genre has the most room to improve...so let's cut the crap with these 10's.
On a side note: I was willing to give this one a look.
I get it the genre has the most room to improve...so let's cut the crap with these 10's.
On a side note: I was willing to give this one a look.
IronicallyTwisted
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Sho_Nuff82 said:
I think a 10 should signify a must buy: no more no less. These ideas of perfection ignore the fact that video games are a human product, and like their creators, they are flawed. I don't think a perfect score should be something of a Holy Grail: thats doing a disservice to readers.
10's should be rare, but not "once every 9 years" rare. Thats just absurd.
TerryLee81
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Sho_Nuff82 said:
COD2 was a bitch on veteran, looks like this is no different.
GoofsterStud
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No I'm just sick of all the uber ratings when titles as good in other genres do not get the same treatment.
I was going to look at this one cause I really like the setting and style.
I'm just sick of all these 10's.
I don't like FPS titles in general however the fact that Halo 3 gets a 10 still confuses me. I thought it wasn't nearly as much of an improvement to Halo 2 as Bioshock was to Halo 2.
I was going to look at this one cause I really like the setting and style.
I'm just sick of all these 10's.
I don't like FPS titles in general however the fact that Halo 3 gets a 10 still confuses me. I thought it wasn't nearly as much of an improvement to Halo 2 as Bioshock was to Halo 2.
I can imagine the tag line to sum up reviews for COD4 on the box..."COD4 10/10, EVEN MORE AWESOME THAN ACTUAL WAR! REALLY!"
After playing the Beta, I cannot wait for this game. Halo 3 is great and all but the Beta spoiled me in the fact that even if you lose, you can still gain experience and level up your character & weapons by doing well individually and winning just adds to that. You advance based on how well you did, and you still help your team, instead of Halo's experience system where you only get experience if you win that match.
Plus having all the perks and weapons available...good golly miss molly it's going to be a hell of a time!
After playing the Beta, I cannot wait for this game. Halo 3 is great and all but the Beta spoiled me in the fact that even if you lose, you can still gain experience and level up your character & weapons by doing well individually and winning just adds to that. You advance based on how well you did, and you still help your team, instead of Halo's experience system where you only get experience if you win that match.
Plus having all the perks and weapons available...good golly miss molly it's going to be a hell of a time!
Sho_Nuff82
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GoofsterStud said:
There hasn't really been that many standout titles in any other genre this generation, has there?
I mean, what RPGs have deserved to be rated has highly as Oblivion (which got its share of 10s)?
What adventure games are as good as Twilight Princess?
What 3rd person shooters have been as good as Gears of War?
What action games have been as good as God of War?
We just had/will have 4 AAA FPS (5, if you consider Metroid Prime part of the genre) dumped in our laps in just over a 3 month span. No other genre has been nearly as strong to deserve those kinds of scores.
No but these games aren't the new Half-Life that's for sure. If any were to be then it would be bioshock but that game also got it's flaws that makes it in my opinion not worth of getting a 10 but rather a 9.5.Blader5489 said:
Not to say that HL didn't but it brought so much more to the FPS genre than e.g. bioshock or Halo 3 for that matter.
I'd have to disagree when it comes to COD4. The COD4 Beta was incredibly polished and played exceptionally well. IW simply churned out such a high caliber product compared to whats out now and is coming out in the near future that they earned themselves a 10 from OXM for the 360 version. Just from the Beta the graphics in MP were awesome, and it runs at 60fps, has amazing sound and gameplay where when you die you dont feel cheated at all because you can see what the other player did (killcam) plus an insane single player and the depth of the MP...it probably earned it's 10.decon said:
It will be interesting to see though how Playstation specific magazines rate the PS3 version of COD4, considering that OXM gave the 360 version a 10.
nelsonroyale
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so many 10/10 these days....wow
Sho_Nuff82
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decon said:
When a reviewer gives a game 10, try not to think of it as them saying it's reinventing the wheel, but rather, it's better than 99.9% of games on the shelves and you're brainless if you don't pick it up. If it's a game that's an amazing experience in single or multi, with flawless graphics and sound, and you find yourself playing it for months with little to no complaints, that it should be a 10, right?
mr_bishiuk
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If Bioshock, Halo 3 , Orange box and now COD4 (played the beta) are not 10's and therefore become 9's then everyone else has to move even further down the scale, games that I think should be 8's (very good games) then have to become 5 and 6's, because its not fair to say they are 8 and the games above are only 1 point better.
The 10's are fully justified for all the games above for different reasons
Bioshock, art, story idea, immersiveness
Halo 3, multiplayer, 4 player co op, completle package ie forge videos etc
Orange box, wow what a deal!!
COD4, Graphics, multiplayer,.... you just have to play it!!
The 10's are fully justified for all the games above for different reasons
Bioshock, art, story idea, immersiveness
Halo 3, multiplayer, 4 player co op, completle package ie forge videos etc
Orange box, wow what a deal!!
COD4, Graphics, multiplayer,.... you just have to play it!!
CajoleJuice
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Good man. COD4 will reside in my 360 for at least a month straight after it comes out.Ryan_OXM said:
I'm not saying that CoD4 isn't worth a 10 since I've only played the beta and I agree with you that it's pretty darn awesome in multiplayer and that the graphics are sweet as hell too.Teen Ape said:
Well HL didn't reinvent the FPS genre either now did it? It just brought something new to the genre that's shown to be something that's now a must have in every modern FPS game.
I really don't want to go much more into this because it will probably end in a Halo vs. everything war. But I'm having a really hard time taking reviewers reviews serious these days after seeing Halo 3 getting so many 10's when even a simple thing like friendly A.I. is messed up. And no the video/forge thing ain't that awesome, at least I don't find it to be anything special.
they must be the easiest genre to develop, no? you already have a fundamental game design set out, you just need to fill in the pieces and tweak things and focus on new kinds of creativity.TTP said:
not to take anything away from games like bioshock but when you have such a large portion of the industry working on the same template, of course you're going to get gems like that
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