As soon as I saw the "shamed in secret" portion of the ACC section I knew who it would be for the Big XII.
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As soon as I saw the "shamed in secret" portion of the ACC section I knew who it would be for the Big XII.
You have to think about it in context. UGA was a few seconds away and one tipped ball away from being in the MNC. Saying Richt can't win the big one PAWWWLLL is just a shortsighted take on things. For one, he won the game against Florida. He almost won this one. The other big thing is that if we got rid of Richt for going 11-2 at UGA this year, who would replace him? What kind of fanbase fires a coach for an 11 win, potentially 12 win, season? If we could get another person to replace him, the odds are that we would regress from where we are now. Ask Tennessee fans, Auburn fans, etc.
What you College Football Fans want: The AP All SEC Team!
FIRST TEAM
Offense
WR u-Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas, 6-3, 209, Sr.
WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3, 205, Jr.
L Chance Warmack, Alabama, 6-3, 320, Sr.
L Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M, 6-6, 310, Jr.
L Jake Matthews, Texas A&M, 6-5, 305, Jr.
L Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State, 6-4, 320, Jr.
C u-Barrett Jones, Alabama, 6-5, 302, Sr.
TE Jordan Reed, Florida, 6-3, 243, Jr.
QB u-Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, 6-1, 200, Fr.
RB Todd Gurley, Georgia, 6-1, 218, Fr.
RB Mike Gillislee, Florida, 5-11, 209, Sr.
K Caleb Sturgis, Florida, 5-11, 184, Sr.
All-Purpose Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, 6-3, 205, Jr.
Defense
T Sharrif Floyd, Florida,6-3, 303, Jr.
T Sheldon Richardson, Missouri, 6-4, 295, Jr.
E u-Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina, 6-6, 256, So.
E Damontre Moore, Texas A&M, 6-4, 250, Jr.
LB u-Jarvis Jones, Georgia, 6-3, 241, Jr.
LB C.J. Mosley, Alabama, 6-2, 232, Jr.
LB Kevin Minter, LSU, 6-2, 245, Jr.
CB u-Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State, 6-2, 185, Sr.
CB u-Dee Milliner, Alabama, 6-1, 199, Jr.
S Matt Elam, Florida, 5-10, 202, Jr.
S Eric Reid, LSU, 6-2, 212, Jr.
P Kyle Christy, Florida, 6-2, 199, So.
SECOND TEAM
Offense
WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee, 6-4, 200, Jr.
WR Chad Bumphis, Mississippi State, 5-11, 200, Sr.
L D.J. Fluker, Alabama, 6-6, 335, Jr.
L Larry Warford, Kentucky, 6-3, 343, Sr.
L Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, 6-6, 332, So.
L Dallas Thomas, Tennessee, 6-5, 310, Sr.
C Travis Swanson, Arkansas 6-5, 305, Jr.
TE Mychal Rivera, Tennessee, 6-3, 244, Sr.
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama, 6-4, 210, Jr.
RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama, 6-0, 220, Jr.
RB Zac Stacy, Vanderbilt, 5-9, 210, Sr.
K Carey Spear, Vanderbilt, 5-10, 190, Jr.
All-Purpose LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi State, 5-10, 190, Jr.
All-Purpose Ace Sanders, South Carolina, 5-8, 175, Jr.
Defense
T Jesse Williams, Alabama, 6-4, 320, Sr.
T John Jenkins, Georgia, 6-3, 358, Sr.
T Bennie Logan, LSU, 6-3, 295, Jr.
E Sam Montgomery, LSU, 6-5, 260, Jr.
LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia, 6-3, 232, Jr.
LB Cameron Lawrence, Mississippi State, 6-3, 230, Sr.
LB Barkevious Mingo, LSU, 6-5, 240, Jr.
LB Denzel Nkemdiche, Mississippi, 5-11, 203, Fr.
CB Andrew Hal, Vanderbilt, 6-0, 184, Jr.
CB Marcus Robertson, Florida, 6-0, 178, So.
S D.J. Swearinger, South Carolina, 6-0, 210, Sr.
S Craig Loston, LSU, 6-2, 205, Jr.
S Bacarri Rambo, Georgia, 6-0, 210, Sr.
P Dylan Breeding, Arkansas, 6-1, 211, Sr.
HONORABLE MENTION
Offense
La'el Collins, L, LSU, 6-5, 321, So.; Josh Dworaczyk, L, LSU, 6-6, 300, Sr.; Wesley Johnson, L, Vanderbilt, 6-5, 285, Jr.; Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina, 6-0, 218, Jr.; Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia, 6-1, 210, Jr.
Defense
Robert Lester, S, Alabama, 6-2, 210, Sr.; Chris Smith, E, Arkansas, 6-3, 251, Jr.
OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
u-Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Jarvis Jones, Georgia
COACH OF THE YEAR
Kevin Sumlim, Texas A&M
FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR
Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
FIRST TEAM
Offense
WR u-Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas, 6-3, 209, Sr.
WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3, 205, Jr.
L Chance Warmack, Alabama, 6-3, 320, Sr.
L Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M, 6-6, 310, Jr.
L Jake Matthews, Texas A&M, 6-5, 305, Jr.
L Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State, 6-4, 320, Jr.
C u-Barrett Jones, Alabama, 6-5, 302, Sr.
TE Jordan Reed, Florida, 6-3, 243, Jr.
QB u-Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, 6-1, 200, Fr.
RB Todd Gurley, Georgia, 6-1, 218, Fr.
RB Mike Gillislee, Florida, 5-11, 209, Sr.
K Caleb Sturgis, Florida, 5-11, 184, Sr.
All-Purpose Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, 6-3, 205, Jr.
Defense
T Sharrif Floyd, Florida,6-3, 303, Jr.
T Sheldon Richardson, Missouri, 6-4, 295, Jr.
E u-Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina, 6-6, 256, So.
E Damontre Moore, Texas A&M, 6-4, 250, Jr.
LB u-Jarvis Jones, Georgia, 6-3, 241, Jr.
LB C.J. Mosley, Alabama, 6-2, 232, Jr.
LB Kevin Minter, LSU, 6-2, 245, Jr.
CB u-Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State, 6-2, 185, Sr.
CB u-Dee Milliner, Alabama, 6-1, 199, Jr.
S Matt Elam, Florida, 5-10, 202, Jr.
S Eric Reid, LSU, 6-2, 212, Jr.
P Kyle Christy, Florida, 6-2, 199, So.
SECOND TEAM
Offense
WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee, 6-4, 200, Jr.
WR Chad Bumphis, Mississippi State, 5-11, 200, Sr.
L D.J. Fluker, Alabama, 6-6, 335, Jr.
L Larry Warford, Kentucky, 6-3, 343, Sr.
L Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, 6-6, 332, So.
L Dallas Thomas, Tennessee, 6-5, 310, Sr.
C Travis Swanson, Arkansas 6-5, 305, Jr.
TE Mychal Rivera, Tennessee, 6-3, 244, Sr.
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama, 6-4, 210, Jr.
RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama, 6-0, 220, Jr.
RB Zac Stacy, Vanderbilt, 5-9, 210, Sr.
K Carey Spear, Vanderbilt, 5-10, 190, Jr.
All-Purpose LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi State, 5-10, 190, Jr.
All-Purpose Ace Sanders, South Carolina, 5-8, 175, Jr.
Defense
T Jesse Williams, Alabama, 6-4, 320, Sr.
T John Jenkins, Georgia, 6-3, 358, Sr.
T Bennie Logan, LSU, 6-3, 295, Jr.
E Sam Montgomery, LSU, 6-5, 260, Jr.
LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia, 6-3, 232, Jr.
LB Cameron Lawrence, Mississippi State, 6-3, 230, Sr.
LB Barkevious Mingo, LSU, 6-5, 240, Jr.
LB Denzel Nkemdiche, Mississippi, 5-11, 203, Fr.
CB Andrew Hal, Vanderbilt, 6-0, 184, Jr.
CB Marcus Robertson, Florida, 6-0, 178, So.
S D.J. Swearinger, South Carolina, 6-0, 210, Sr.
S Craig Loston, LSU, 6-2, 205, Jr.
S Bacarri Rambo, Georgia, 6-0, 210, Sr.
P Dylan Breeding, Arkansas, 6-1, 211, Sr.
HONORABLE MENTION
Offense
La'el Collins, L, LSU, 6-5, 321, So.; Josh Dworaczyk, L, LSU, 6-6, 300, Sr.; Wesley Johnson, L, Vanderbilt, 6-5, 285, Jr.; Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina, 6-0, 218, Jr.; Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia, 6-1, 210, Jr.
Defense
Robert Lester, S, Alabama, 6-2, 210, Sr.; Chris Smith, E, Arkansas, 6-3, 251, Jr.
OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
u-Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Jarvis Jones, Georgia
COACH OF THE YEAR
Kevin Sumlim, Texas A&M
FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR
Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not be too hasty. As Alabamians, we need Mississippi in the Union. Throw in Arkansas if you have to, but leave Mississippi alone.
ConfusingJazz
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storybook77
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Oh yeah, several. Idiots all over the place up in here.
I'm hopeful I won't have to ban anyone in CFB-GAF, that would make me sad.
SerArthurDayne
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Norv Turner might be available.
Unless you got Saban, there's nowhere to go.
Not mad at Sark for voting Furd above LSU. We played a lot better vs. Furd than vs. LSU, and we were at home. Plus, I think Furd with Hogan could go head to head with LSU.
From NFL-thread:
Well, yeah.
You can't deny your state affiliation, no matter where you reside!
Shiiiiiit, I posted a Daily Mail link up in here with impunity and repeatedly insulted another mod. CJ posted porn the other night. Nobody's banned here and ain't nobody here scurred of you.
Well, I'm in the clear on that one, because to hell with the conference and the other eleven teams.
That's right, ELEVEN.
How did it make you feel?
ElectricBlue187
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true you can't replace him with someone better but he def deserves to be fired for that 4th quarter. I don't buy the idea that UGA goes 1 loss or undefeated when they start playing big games against tougher west opponents like Alabama, LSU or aTm. I think Richt was saved by an advantageous schedule this year and an ugly win against a self destructive florida team.
We will see how Richt does next season with a significantly harder schedule. Richt had a losing season 2 years ago, lost all of his big games last season, and won one of his big games this season. To his credit, he has been really good at beating up on the crappy teams, but he won't be able to stumble into the SEC CG like he did the last two years.
storybook77
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Ahhh, Daryl from Columbus (the Rabid UGA Fan) has decided to quit listening and calling the PAWL Finebaum show.
Now, I never heard Richt say this, but Verne/Gary mentioned that he understood that UGA always has a large amount of penalties, and "he's fine with that" They imply that either UGA's team strategy includes knowing they're gonna get some penalties, I guess.
Makes sense, remember that asinine group celebration after the first TD in Florida/Georgia a few years ago?
Currently?
He's implied a few times before, and probably stated as well that he'll take a few penalties as a result of an overhyped defense as opposed to a defense that shows up and is afraid to tackle somebody. Didn't help them in the 3rd quarter LOL.
We don't need anymore goddamn Tide fans. Come back in a few years.
Exactly.
That bullshit of a self-destructive Florida team is still out there, right? That Florida team that "gave up" 6 turnovers to lose the game. Florida is typically positive in turnovers, so for them to have all those forced turnovers is not something indicative of them, it's indicative that the other team was knocking the ball lose. Jarvis Jones was a monster in that game and won the game for us, no doubt. But he was playing for Georgia, he wasn't on Florida's team.
As far as the schedule, of course it would ahve been more difficult, but Florida had a very advantageous schedule when Meyer was there. He enjoyed the fruits of it when they won a MNC. Bama probably wouldn't have had only 1 loss this year either if they hadn't avoided UGA, USCe and Florida this year. Goes both ways. Easy schedules happen now and then and you need to take advantage of them. Our schedule next year is significantly harder. Clemson is our opening game and we have LSU from the west.
ElectricBlue187
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it takes a dude to the drop the ball and another dude to pick it up, either way it was an ugly game and not something you should hang your hat on.
storybook77
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Never in their case except that one time they beat LSU.
We keep them around for basketball dominance.
I've been on the "list" for years, just not a poster in here. I normally reside in NFL-GAF. Lone is calling me out though so here I am, you can thank him!
bucknuticus
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about that......
storybook77
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It doesn't always work out but who else we got year in and year out?
I distinctly remember a Driskel forced fumble and then a Jordan Reed forced fumble. That's not picking the ball up.
Eh, some teams have tougher schedules than others. Bama and UGA both took advantage of theirs. And while you can fault Richt's clock-management, the play-calling worked: he was 5 seconds away from an MNC berth.
Not spiking it was probably the wrong move, but if he'd caught the Bama defense off guard he'd look like a genius.
*shrug*
Hey they used to be decent. They beat the 2007 MNC winner.
I'm not going to take way anything from your team, but that was a terrible game by us. Half of those turnovers were self inflicted. Driskel's INT in the endzone was just a terrible decision by him that he normally never does because he has been a really conservative QB. Probably his worst game of the season. He was bound to have a bad game since it's his first year as a starter. If you are going to say you were one play from being in the NC, you also have to acknowledge that this game could have easily bounced the other way.
You could have Duke!
Also, does it still count as basketball dominance when it's retroactively forfeited in 3 years?
storybook77
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It counts until it doesn't count anymore and by then, they've moved on to the next unethical coach!
storybook77
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I hate the strength of schedule arguments for the bigger conferences. Most people thought that Arkansas and Auburn wouldn't be great but no one predicted that they would be so awful that they'd struggle to win their cupcake OOC games. You can't control who you play in your conference.
Sirpopopop
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I am going to participate in pick'em this date.
Army v. Navy by 14.
Army v. Navy by 14.
#10 in AP and Coaches pre-season is most?
Once Petrino left, the writing was on the wall.
I honestly don't know what we should do. I feel like the last two years have been good due to advantageous scheduling, but I feel like he should have the chance to go against the tougher schedule again to prove himself.
I'm not following your point? I'd say a lot of people changed their minds about Arkansas, especially after the hiring of Johnelle. The AP poll only represents the opinions of 60 people.
If Jimbo remains unwilling to relinquish some control, we will continue to suffer let downs. He needs some serious oversight on offense.
I guess my point is that these "experts", whether writers or coaches, refused to see the writing on the wall. I think the GAF consensus was a drop to 7 or 8 wins, which is certainly not in the same room as a #10 ranking.
I know it's beating a dead horse about the stupidity of pre-season polls after the season, but when they can have so much influence, some bludgeoning is required.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I don't see Bronco Mendenhall coming to Boulder. The culture is too different. Boulder has caffeine for starters.
You guys should hire Tedford.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Looks like we're lifting our skirts for Butch Davis.
StrikerObi
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Have fun with that, and the academic scandal that will surely come with it.
devildog820
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We just hired Joker Phillips as a recruiting coordinator and receivers coach. I don't know how I feel about this. I don't mean I'm conflicted. I just have zero idea.
StrikerObi
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We have pre-season polls to ensure an SEC team makes it to the championship game. If an SEC team starts high and wins 11-12 games, there is a good chance they will go to the MNC. If an SEC team starts low and wins 11-12 games (which will ensure them beating a number of ranked teams, since so many SEC teams start ranked) it ensures an SEC team goes to the championship. The whole thing is set up in favor of the SEC since the media has partial control over the polls, and the SEC brings the media the most eyeballs. They further cement this mid-season by claiming a low/unranked SEC team beating an high ranked SEC team means the conference is deep. But when any other team beats a well ranked conference opponent, it means that conference is weak.
devildog820
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It looked like they were a bit off guard, spiking it would have let them set up a defense. When I saw the replay that showed the ball was tipped, I had a lot more respect for that call. The receiver caught it and should have dropped it. That would have led to one more play.
That seems a bit sodium-chloridey there.
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