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COMICS! |OT| June 2016. The Manhattan Project
- Thread starter Tyrant Rave
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Zootopia is amazing, people. Watch that when you get the chance.
eh low hanging fruit and all that
Lol my avy should prove how unserious I was
Yah quick on the trigger
eh low hanging fruit and all that
This is what I was getting at. I find them more or so the same. Same water different labels XD
Edit: low hanging fruit? Lol never heard that one
Freezasaurus
Member
I'm not talking about fanboy shit or anything like that. I think everyone is bound to prefer one or the other just in terms of the characters that he/she likes more.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I haven't started it yet, but I'm dying too. I want to wait for the big collections whenever they decide to start making them but I may just start buying the trades because I know I'll love it.
Growing up in the nineties molded me into the Marvel fan I am today. Spider-Man, X-Men, Iron Man, Hulk and even Fantastic Four I loved all those cartoons as a child. Watching Batman TAS just made me a Batman fan.
First comics I ever bought (and still have) was X-men, my dad would get a subscription fpr me and it was always a highlight going to the shop to pick them up. I would've been around 8 or 9 I think. I remember they had a Gen X backup and came with those awesome trading cards that had the X-men at the beach or something lol Even now I still love the X-men.
Waiting for the hc.
I mentioned this last thread but I hope Abe gets his hc too. There are enough issues to warrant At least 3 books
GamerKingFaiz
Member
So do I read DC Rebirth if I'm not done with the Justice League New 52 TPBs?
there are some spoilers.
Green arrow is fine to read since it doesn't talk about any of the new 52 books
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
This pretty much goes for me too.
Plus I just can't stand any of DC's mainline of heroes other than Batman. And even Batman I've never been able to get into in comic form.
GamerKingFaiz
Member
What about DC Universe Rebirth? I saw on the first page it says to read Justice League #50 and something else first.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its a bit of both. I think Marvel's characters and their world are more interesting on average, and their stories are, too. Like they cool in JLA, but I honestly couldn't give two shits about Green Lantern and his green magic ring, or Barry Allen Flash doing boring science lab coat shit with his supporting cast nobody remembers, or whatever the hell Superboy is supposed to be, dont know who Wonder Woman even is, Legion of Superheroes just corny as hell. All the interesting runs of DC are at the fringes where they damn near Marvel characters anyway, like Hitman, Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol, or Suicide Squad. You couldn't pay me to read a goddamn Teen Titans comic, b. Like are you for real with this pack of kid jobbers? At least Bill Sienwiciz drew New Mutants at one point, b.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's the connections to the characters and world, for me. I got nothing against Marvel, they just don't appeal to me on the same level DC does. Probably something to do with the stories I was exposed to as a kid. I'm just out-and-out more interested in DC characters, so I'll keep with it even through a lackluster story.
After that, it's mostly fanboyism.
DC rebirth #1 was included my sums met of books that has spoilers. Honestly you will be fine though. No point in trade waiting.
I was way into Green Lantern during Johns run until around Blackest Night then I dropped off hard. I was more into DC pre new 52, never really got that same traction since the reboot.
echoshifting
Banned
I wouldn't recommend it unless you want to read all of Darkseid War...which is a pretty fun story with no mandatory tie ins. It's just kinda longer than it needs to be. There are some plot points that show up in both JL 50 and Rebirth but they're basically repeated rather than tied together. If you don't want to read it just read these spoilers:
Batman sat in the Mobius chair for awhile and asked the chair what the true identity of the Joker is. He was stunned by the answer. It's addressed in Rebirth. Wonder Woman finds out she has a twin brother. A new Green Lantern is born.
Superman 52 is a larger part of Rebirth but don't read that, it's not good. Here's the only spoiler you need:
nu52 Superman dies.
Damn my jab got everyone picking sides.
Least yah marvel bois know DC animation> marvel animation
They are both crap
Now I know you playing
I read more Marvel because they tend to have more heroes and books that check the box for me. There are certain DC titles I like that I feel are similar to that style.
echoshifting
Banned
Damn my jab got everyone picking sides
Least yah marvel bois know DC animation> marvel animation
True but that's pretty much the only place DC's wider cast really shines for me. I have so much trouble getting into their books. I do try to be fair and give them a shot when a new team or a relaunch happens. I pulled a ton of nu52 #1s (almost all of them) and I'm sure I'll check out a bunch of the new Rebirth titles. If it's anything like last time, though, I'll be down to 2-4 books within a year.
I really do wish their characters were half as appealing in their books as they are in their animated shows. Maybe Johns is right, maybe a little more lightheartedness, playfulness, and humanity is what these characters need. I hope they get it.
Hey those Dark Knight Returns films were great, the rest of their direct to dvd films are crap though. Actually wait I really liked Gods and Monsters.
I'm really not. DC used to be great now it's gone to crap
echoshifting
Banned
Man, I tried to watch DKR and I didn't last ten minutes. Heartbreaking how far the animation quality has fallen with the movies. I try to forget any of them exist.
I will be rewatching B:TAS, S:TAS, BB, JL, JLU and YJ until the end of time though
Teen Titans Go is a fun watch with the kid, too. Forgettable, but fun.
And those DC Nation shorts were terrific. I wish they'd collect those so I could buy them.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Damn my jab got everyone picking sides
Least yah marvel bois know DC animation> marvel animation
Yeah Teen Titans Go kicks ass.
This we can agree on. I wish I could like the book characters as much as I like them animated.
Green arrow rebirth was an approach in the right direction.
It didn't really bother me but yeah you just have to look at The Killing Joke to see the level of quality in those films now. Really bad CG backgrounds seem to be a staple.
BTAS and Beyond will forever be the best for me.
Huge teen titans and teen titans go fan.Yeah Teen Titans Go kicks ass.
Teen titans go is so self aware of its audience and former teen titans(2005) fans that I gotta show respect
echoshifting
Banned
Beyond is kinda up and down but by and large it's really good. There are a handful of episodes I just adore. And Return of the Joker is one of the best things in the DCAU bar none.
With stuff like this I think it usually ends up being whichever brand you were exposed to first. When I first got into comics as a kid many moons ago, I pretty much tried out anything that looked interesting and really didn't care who published it. I gravitate a little more towards DC stuff, but I still read whatever looks interesting to me, regardless of who publishes it. Heck I've even bought Valiant books!
I really loved how stylish it was, how it tied into TAS and man that suit is just an unbelievably cool design. Can't believe how bad Terry's new suit for Rebirth is in comparison. I'd buy a blu ray of Beyond in a heartbeat. Heck we should have a whole Batman animated collection already that includes TAS, Mask of the Phantasm, Beyond and Return of the Joker.
echoshifting
Banned
I think that's true about brand exposure, and I believe a lot of it comes down to age. I think Marvel was better at this in the '70s-'80s, Batman started to really grow in popularity in 1989 and more DC characters started getting some exposure in the late '90s-early '00s.
Yep, I would agree with all this. You cannot discount the impact of the DCAU for introducing the general audience to the deeper cuts of the DCU.
Unrelated to this, but apparently we live in a world where an issue of Green Arrow has sold 90000+ copies:
@Benjamin_Percy said:
TropicalFish
Member
The Justice League movies post flashpoint paradox have been the pits.
I liked Batman Bad Blood though. Batwoman <3
I liked Batman Bad Blood though. Batwoman <3
The twitter feed page on Squirrel Girl might be my favorite part of each issue, and I dont even mean that as a diss at the book. Just cracks me up to imagine Iron Man actually talking to her on twitter
my name is ed
Banned
I feel like I was equally exposed to Marvel/DC characters through cartoons/games/movies but I really got into Marvel because Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimates and New X-Men came out around the same time. Looking around at my library, Id say they're almost equal with a bit more Marvel if you include Vertigo and Wildstorm
Poodlestrike
Banned
Goddamn. What do you think, word of mouth or just Rebirthomania?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I thought Justice League vs Teen Titans was a return to form. And Justice League: Gods and Monsters was pretty solid.
But yeah, aside from those they have been shitting out some clunkers. Throne of Atlantis was probably the most boring DC Animated film I've ever seen.
I'm a way bigger DC fan than I am marvel fan. I grew up with a healthy mix of both which is why I love Spider-man and in the read most of the big Marvel/DC events near the same time. However DC Animated grabbed much more than Marvel's did and I watched all ten years of smallville which is why Superman and Green Arrow are my dfavorite two superheroes.
What really settled for me was getting my first smart phone in high school just as comixlogy was just starting to come to frution and marvel was taking digital a bit more seriously than marvel. I bought all the Batwoman issues of detective and all the issues of the original Firestorm mini.Then I bought JL Generation Lost and Flashpoint day one digital which led right into the new 52.
my name is ed
Banned
Green Arrow selling 90k is pretty interesting because if we get the diamond numbers and its 50 or 60k or w/e we now have an idea of how much a title sells on comixology
GamerKingFaiz
Member
So why does the digital version of the Saga Omnibus cost more then the TPBs it covers (Vol.1, Vol.2, and Vol.3)
The Omnibus is $40 and the 3 TPBs are $30. Am I missing something?
The Omnibus is $40 and the 3 TPBs are $30. Am I missing something?
if it's 90k print than I'm guessing Rebirthomania, because if I remember correctly those numbers are Diamond sell through to retailers. but, all of the Rebirth one shots are getting second printings, so word of mouth is there somewhat.
I normally don't pay too much attention to sales (since most of my favorite books sell like shit), but June's numbers will be interesting to see. If GA sold 90k, you have to imagine Batman numbers will be insane.
I would imagine that the digital-physical ratio widely differs between books and that 90k is probably retail only.