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Roman

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Superboy and The Ravers brought the Superteam idea back to DC


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It was pretty apparent not even DC cared about that mess, that Rave nonsense was barely mentioned in Ron Marz' main Superboy book...not that that one was any good either. Better than Karl Kesel's run though. Fuck Hypertime. Poor Roxy Leech.
 

Slayven

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It was pretty apparent not even DC cared about that mess, that Rave nonsense was barely mentioned in Ron Marz' main Superboy book...not that that one was any good either. Better than Karl Kesel's run though. Fuck Hypertime. Poor Roxy Leech.

Pump your brakes. Hypertime lead to some great stories

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Roman

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You make Hyperman cry.

To me it just read as a bloated nonsensical mess, since it's hypertime you can just pull whatever you want out of your ass and go with it, and if the premise isn't fun (to me personally) it's impossible to go along for the ride with it.

edit: And I don't like it when writers poorly try to imitate Kirby's works, this Kamandi "homage" didn't do anything for me.
 

tim1138

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Justice League 3000 is the best Justice League book being published. Giffen, DeMatteis, and Porter pretty much have free reign from editorial to do whatever the hell they want. I can't wait for
Fire and Ice
to show up in January.
 
Justice League 3000 is the best Justice League book being published. Giffen, DeMatteis, and Porter pretty much have free reign from editorial to do whatever the hell they want. I can't wait for
Fire and Ice
to show up in January.

I think I dropped it at 4-5. If I want to catch back up with back issues, where should I start?

Meaning, is there a good jumping on point or should I go back and get them all?
 

tim1138

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I think I dropped it at 4-5. If I want to catch back up with back issues, where should I start?

Meaning, is there a good jumping on point or should I go back and get them all?

You can jump back in with this month's issue. The initial arc with the Five ended last month and this issue sets the table for the new status quo going forward and introduces the next batch of villains.
 
You can jump back in with this month's issue. The initial arc with the Five ended last month and this issue sets the table for the new status quo going forward and introduces the next batch of villains.

That's number 11 right? I think I'll check it out again since I read the first few issues and liked it. Dunno why I stopped reading it.
 

Vyer

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You can jump back in with this month's issue. The initial arc with the Five ended last month and this issue sets the table for the new status quo going forward and introduces the next batch of villains.

EDIT: Actually I was further along than I thought I'll probably just catch up.
 

CorvoSol

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Comics GAF, I finished The Trial of Jean Grey the other day, and it was really good!

Question about Spider-Verse, though. Amazon doesn't include Edge of Spider-Verse in the blurb for the hardback collection. Does this mean EoSV isn't going to be included and I should make the effort to buy it now, instead?
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Yeah, Amazons discription changed but the original Soli included it.
It releases next February as a Trade published by Panini UK, you could buy it then, too.
 
I read some stuff:

Thunderbolts: Faith in Monsters (collects Thunderbolts #110-115 and Civil War: Choosing Sides #1)
Thunderbolts: Caged Angels (collects Thunderbolts #116-121)


"I'm also told you're quite toyetic."
"What?"
"Toyetic. It's a word the media people use. It means your image and abilities easily suggest toys based on you."


Over the course of its’ decade-and-a-half run of almost 200 issues, Thunderbolts underwent several re-tools. One constant remained; these were former villains seeking redemption. This volume seeks to remove the redemption part of that. In the aftermath of “Civil War”, Baron Zemo is thought dead, so the Thunderbolts are placed under the command of Norman Osborn and re-staffed with some big name villains like Bullseye and Venom alongside regular members like Songbird and Radioactive Man (not that one). They’re professional Hero Hunters, when they’re not trying to screw over each other. In “Faith in Monsters” they tackle C and D-list heroes like Jack Flag and the Steel Spider in knock-down, drag out brawls, while “Caged Angels” sees the team being manipulated by a grouping of unregistered psychics.

Warren Ellis eschews the usual “they fight, but then they get along” structure of superhero team books by actively writing against it. These characters hate each other, and most of them hate themselves even more. Even characters outside the team, like Doc Samson who appears in the second book, imagines himself destroying Osborn and Moonstone after learning of their activities. Teeth-clenched teamwork is the order of the day, despite repeated attempts at sabotaging the missions by just about everybody. It’s a miracle they win any fights at all. Ellis is on point in these stories, tearing apart merchandise-driven marketing, the media wars of the day (“Fix News: Giving You Your Opinion!”) and pop psychology in equal measure.

Mike Deodato is the artist for the whole run, and this is some of his best work. His style channels the best of the “widescreen comics” mentality of the 2000s, with some spectacular fight scenes. He almost doesn’t skimp on the gore, rest assured, this comic’s not for the faint of heart. There are two scenes, one involving a grappling hook gun and another involving an arsenal of scalpels, that’ll make you wince. The colouring from Rain Bereto is moody and dark, almost claustrophobic, giving us a window into the twisted minds of our protagonists.

The whole run’s available as a Complete Collection, and if you want some Dark Age thrills without the Dork Age chills, it’s highly recommended.

8.5/10

Suicide Squad (1987) #1-15

“These eight people will put their lives on the line for our country. One of them won’t be coming home.”

Managed by one of comics’ greatest anti-heroes, Amanda “The Wall” Waller, Suicide Squad is the story of a secret division of Task Force X, charged with enlisting captured supervillains to do the deadliest and dirtiest of jobs. Succeed, and they get time off their sentences. Fail, and they lose an arm, or worse.

Going back to older comics can be an issue for me after reading a bunch of new stuff, but with this book, you acclimatise fairly quickly. A cast of minor villains are the stars, ranging from assassins with a death wish (Deadshot) to people with murderous multiple personalities (Enchantress) to Proud Warrior Race Guys (Bronze Tiger) to near-irredeemable perverts (Captain Boomerang). This series is steeped in 80s pop and comics culture, with several missions against the dastardly Russians and a clash with the BWAH-HA-HA Justice League International being two of the main arcs.

John Ostrander is probably one of the most underrated creators in comics, and he manages to juggle an enormous cast that changes practically every issue (mostly due to a fairly high mortality rate) along with support staff, the Wall and her assistants and even guest star heroes like Batman (blue suit hype!) that could easily swamp the book. The issue where Batman infiltrates Belle Reve is easily my favourite, ending with a standoff between the Dark Knight and the Wall (“UP AGAINST THE WALL, FREAK!”) that has to be read to be believed, and naturally leads to a showdown between the Squad and the JLI. Karl McDonnell is on art and his work is solid throughout, letting the characters each get their moments during the big scenes and giving them all some unique expressions and body language.

It’s easy to see why this is a cult classic. DC needs to get off their asses and start collecting this in print again.

9/10

Future Installments:
2000 AD: Age of the Wolf (and Nikolai Dante, I forgot to read it, next week for sure)
Journey Into Mystery: Stronger than Monsters
Ms. Marvel: No Normal
 

DeathyBoy

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Justice League 3000 is the best Justice League book being published. Giffen, DeMatteis, and Porter pretty much have free reign from editorial to do whatever the hell they want. I can't wait for
Fire and Ice
to show up in January.

... wait, you serious, bro?
 

Bii

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argh failed at acquiring SDCC tickets through preregistration. Gonna have to duke it out... in Open Registration

I was able to get Thursday and Sunday tickets. Looks like this will be my fifth consecutive year attending SDCC. I'm going to try and get Friday/Saturday badges in open registration. Even if I'm unable to, there's still a lot of things to do in San Diego.
 

Drayco21

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Richie's really gone for good, isn't he. :-( Aren't Sam's comics not selling too well?

They'll bring him back when we get someone who has actually read the characters before on Cosmic.

Sam's sales aren't great, but like with Captain Marvel, they're pushing the character too hard to cancel it.
 

Parch

Member
but did they put a Dynamite house style artist on the book
Unfortunately yes. Esteve Polls did the second series of Lone Ranger and I didn't care for the art. The first run by Carrielo is better.

Dynamite has some good franchises but sometimes the generic art is a dealbreaker.
 

Kipp

but I am taking tiny steps forward
Man, the All in the Family arc of Preacher is so good.

"You gotta be one of the good guys son, cause there's way too many of the bad."

Issue #9 in particular (the one with the backstory of Jesse's parents and his childhood) is just incredible.
 
Man, the All in the Family arc of Preacher is so good.

"You gotta be one of the good guys son, cause there's way too many of the bad."

Issue #9 in particular (the one with the backstory of Jesse's parents and his childhood) is just incredible.

Just read that last night as well. High Five!

I'm really loving the comic so far. I don't really care about any of the stuff with the angels thus far, but everything else is excellent.
 

Neoxon

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They'll bring him back when we get someone who has actually read the characters before on Cosmic.

Sam's sales aren't great, but like with Captain Marvel, they're pushing the character too hard to cancel it.
Sam isn't getting a movie, so it's not as big of a push.
 

Kipp

but I am taking tiny steps forward
Just read that last night as well. High Five!

I'm really loving the comic so far. I don't really care about any of the stuff with the angels thus far, but everything else is excellent.

Awesome! Glad to hear you're enjoying it also!

Oh man, and the issue after that one too
where Jesse explains why he left
. A lot of those moments hit so hard.
 
Unfortunately yes. Esteve Polls did the second series of Lone Ranger and I didn't care for the art. The first run by Carrielo is better.

Dynamite has some good franchises but sometimes the generic art is a dealbreaker.

god damn it Dynamite. QT and Matt Wagner and you put a generic house style dude on your book? weeeeak
 

Kipp

but I am taking tiny steps forward
Has anyone read Milligan's Human Target? Somehow I didn't know of it. It's collected in two very reasonably priced TPBs.

Also, why on earth have I not bought that Best of Milligan & McCarthy hardcover yet... I've been wanting that really badly for such a long time but it keeps getting barely bumped off of my IST orders.
 
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