When you think about it that's just foreshadowing
that it doesn't actually change anything 
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When you think about it that's just foreshadowing
not really sure what to make of that....
Orlando going deep into the roster and making it work perfectly. What a great way to to use that character.
KoruptData
Member
After all the glowing reviews online, I tried Citizen Jack #1 and I am not disappointed. That was a fun issue with fantastic art. I could put it into my own words but I would fail miserably.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Storm is the reason I passed on Extra X-men. Never liked her as character and it sounds like she has gotten infinitely worse ove the last decade.
Freezasaurus
Member
Storm is the best. You so cray, brah.
Yup it's fantastic. His new suit is cool as fuck as well, I love how it fragments and changes shape.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Couldn't disagree more. It was perfectly handled.
The idea that in comics you can have Punisher turn into a fucking Frankenstein but people have a problem with complicated sexuality is so plop take inducing I can't even stand up.
BossDarkseid
Member
I should read Midnighter...
Maybe if he wrote it better people wouldn't have such a problem with it.
Personally I think doing it at the end of his run was a mistake, it would have been better earlier so he could build of it himself but then you'd have things like Battle of the Atom and Black Vortex screeching things to a halt so really there was no winning. The delay for #600 wasn't great either. It'll be interesting to see Bobby going forward though especially how we've had a timeskip, I'd like it if it was just not referenced at all and he just had a boyfriend or had someone he was seeing.
That said not talking about anyone here but people were going to have problems with this regardless of how well it was handled.
I just read it and it was very good, but yeah, the Iceman retcon still doesn't sit right with me. I can appreciate the nuances of sexuality, but I don't think Bendis can. He's shown me that in how he's written these scenes.
I know he understands there's s need for diversity in comics. I appreciate that. I don't think there's a malicious bone in his body. But Bobby's coming out is bungled and misguided on his part and that's a shame. It's not really new territory for Bendis either, as I'm learning from reading Alias. It so blatantly feels like a straight guy talking about "gay stuff" he doesn't seem to have examined very much outside of film/TV.
It's a bad retcon for good (or perhaps, well-intentioned) reasons. I enjoyed the underlying message of the back-up story though. I'm sure Bendis wants the best for the character and o do too. We just disagree on how he went about it.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Ellis' Bond started well. It didn't blow me over but it's got me interested. Digging the art too.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Batman And Robin Eternal #5
Detective Comics #46
Green Arrow #46
Green Lantern #46
Justice League Darkseid War Superman #1
Justice League Darkseid War The Flash #1
James Bond #1
Amazing Spider-Man #3
Deadpool #1
Doctor Strange #2
Drax #1
Extraordinary X-Men #1
Hercules #1
Invincible Iron Man #3
Star Wars #11
Uncanny X-Men #600
Vision #1
ITS A GOOD DAY
Detective Comics #46
Green Arrow #46
Green Lantern #46
Justice League Darkseid War Superman #1
Justice League Darkseid War The Flash #1
James Bond #1
Amazing Spider-Man #3
Deadpool #1
Doctor Strange #2
Drax #1
Extraordinary X-Men #1
Hercules #1
Invincible Iron Man #3
Star Wars #11
Uncanny X-Men #600
Vision #1
ITS A GOOD DAY
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Eh, I'm enjoying it.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
so no more spoiler tagging for uxm 600?
lmao
lmao
I'm reading Identity Crisis, and something I see referenced is
Can anybody give me a bit of context to that? So far, that point hasn't been crucial to the plot in any way, but I just want to know what they're talking about with that.
something about some of the heroes having died, despite them being back now? Like, Ollie is talking and says that he died, and that Clark died, but they're obviously there right now.
TetraxShards
Member
Superman died during the Reign of the Supermen trilogy (The Death of Superman, A World Without A Superman, The Return of Superman). It's collected in an omni, but I think it's out of print. It's also not very good, but I personally have a lot of nostalgia for it as it was the big storyline when I first got into comics.
Green Arrow died stopping Not Greenpeace from detonating a nuke in Metropolis. He was atomized by the explosion so only Superman could tell he was dead. Hal Jordan, under the effects of Parallax at the time, brought him back during the events of The Final Night.
Green Arrow died stopping Not Greenpeace from detonating a nuke in Metropolis. He was atomized by the explosion so only Superman could tell he was dead. Hal Jordan, under the effects of Parallax at the time, brought him back during the events of The Final Night.
Thanks Tetrix ^
I haven't read it though I've heard of it. So is it basically just talking about how various characters have died in various versions of the DC universe? Does it explain why they're here now, or is it just kind of a matter of fact in the book?
Have you never hear of Death of Superman?
I haven't read it though I've heard of it. So is it basically just talking about how various characters have died in various versions of the DC universe? Does it explain why they're here now, or is it just kind of a matter of fact in the book?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
ayyyy lmao tony stark
edit: dayum marquez is like a cleaner dustin weaver here my gawt
EDIT EDIT: omfggg that page. YOU KNOW THE ONE I MEAN.
"Oh yeah? I died and was resurrected as my own child."
edit: dayum marquez is like a cleaner dustin weaver here my gawt
EDIT EDIT: omfggg that page. YOU KNOW THE ONE I MEAN.
Seeing Bendis and Marquez execute on a joke this dumb while still having all of the legit character drama just proved how far above the rest of ANAD Iron Man sits.
But speaking of Bendis books, Iceman being gay and coming out to himself made some sense. Still mad about the bi erasure, but, the whole part about taking a long time to come out because you're busy experiencing other shit that's also heavy? Been there. There's some authenticity to that.
Which bi erasure do you mean? Hercules?
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think they meant how the initial page discarded the possibility that Bobby's bi, rather than gay.
It's the whole "You are 100% gay and nothing else, there's not even the possibility of you being anything other than gay, which could've explained why you dated girls before, but, nah, actually, you're just totally gay and nothing else, and there isn't really anything else, don't think about it with your absolutely, completely totally gay brain" thing Jean kinda said in ANXM
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
but so you're saying something that wasn't really confirmed was officially confirmed in an issue of a comic released a few hours ago but everyone is pretty ok with it not being spoiler tagged?
i mean look i read my comics like a BOSS at 3:01 AM but most everyone else hate me cuz they ain't me and read their comics later
just sayin
googleplex
Member
Complicated?
Jean: "Bobby, your gay"
Young Iceman: *Shrugs shoulders* "OK"
Young Iceman: "Old Me, we're gay"
Old Iceman: "Hmm.. You make a good point. Ok"
The entire thing reads like Jean Grey psychicly manipulated them.
Young Iceman: *Shrugs shoulders* "OK"
Young Iceman: "Old Me, we're gay"
Old Iceman: "Hmm.. You make a good point. Ok"
The entire thing reads like Jean Grey psychicly manipulated them.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
interesting encapsulation of literally an entire page of dense monologue there
Tizoc
Member
Well it is Bendis writing :X
It's not much of a spoiler that the gay guy turns out to still be gay, and it's an issue worth discussing considering the conversation about issues of representation that have been going on in the past few weeks.
It's not
Cyclops uniting every mutang in a display of peace in Uncanny, and then eight months later somehow having massively fucked up again in Extraordinary, good god that book is goddamn trash.
googleplex
Member
Because that's exactly how it went down.
In comic books we are treated to characters internal thoughts, feeling and dialog. Constantly! Be we are supposed to buy that Bobby never internally questioned his sexual once in all these years? Not once in all of the heterosexual relationships he has had over the years? And none of dozens of psychics that have read his mind ever brought it up? EMMA FROST of all people never brought it up?
No, I have no problem with the result only how Bobby got there. Stupid Retcon that was handled horribly.
Tizoc
Member
I CALLED IT, BITCHES!
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Darkseid War Superman was the better of the two tie ins this week. I like that Negative Superman isn't
. It was nice to see a bit of a different take.
evil or corrupt, he's just kind of apathetic and lonely. Being the God of Strength didn't make him a mindless brute, but someone who realizes just how different he is
TetraxShards
Member
This thing of having two bundles (meaning a new one every week) is going to ruin me.
Yay comics
Uncanny X-Men #600
So yeah, I didn't care much for this. At all.
Glad Bendis will be off the X-Men from now on.
Extraordinary X-Men
Typical #1 issue, but I'll be there for #2. And shiiiieeeet,
Invincible Iron Man #3
Sometimes I'd love to kick your ass Bendis, but this time you're doing awesome stuff. Together with Cap and Spider-Man my favourite ANAD books.
The Amazing Spider-Man #3
Another fun issue. Finally Slott found his groove with Peter.
Uncanny X-Men #600
So yeah, I didn't care much for this. At all.
Maybe it was the long wait, but resolving everything in 52 pages felt like a bad montage in a movie for me. The trial of Beast was cool, but I really would have loved it if this would be an full blown issue around it. Not just a few pages. As for the rest of the stories... I dunno, felt rushed. Nothing wrong with Bobby being gay, but I feel this should have gotten more time. Or the Jean x Young Beast thing... felt a bit meh. Weird old Beast face had me laughing hard though
Extraordinary X-Men
Typical #1 issue, but I'll be there for #2. And shiiiieeeet,
Cyclops is dead/went of the deep end? If so, Doom be praised!
Invincible Iron Man #3
Sometimes I'd love to kick your ass Bendis, but this time you're doing awesome stuff. Together with Cap and Spider-Man my favourite ANAD books.
FACIAL HAIR BRO'S!
The Amazing Spider-Man #3
Another fun issue. Finally Slott found his groove with Peter.
Him buying the Baxter Building is really Pete-like, but man Johnny, you'd think he would forget about the FF? Sweet to see. And now I really want to know about Reed and Sue. As for Harry working at Parker Industries? Gee, how surprising. And ofcourse Gobbie is out there...
So I read Vision 1 today...
Holy Shit. This was so good. There's art and narration bring forth a feeling of uncanny valley that completely compements the story. You know it's going to end in tears, heck they even tell you it's going to end in tears, but the writing, combined with some genuinely interesting twists and surprises, makes it pretty much the best book of the relaunch alongside Captain America.
Holy Shit. This was so good. There's art and narration bring forth a feeling of uncanny valley that completely compements the story. You know it's going to end in tears, heck they even tell you it's going to end in tears, but the writing, combined with some genuinely interesting twists and surprises, makes it pretty much the best book of the relaunch alongside Captain America.
Nah.
KoruptData
Member
Deadpool #1 was not new reader friendly. I had no clue what was going on and didn't find the character very interesting. I'm more excited about the movie and still to this day think X-Force Deadpool has been the best incarnation of the character. Hopefully Joe Kelly's Deadpool/Spidey book satisfies.
When he went undercover with his son, he went bald and grow a long beard.
Check ASM 697
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Jesus could you people fucking spoiler tag shit. Describing every detail of a character is a spoiler for people who've read previous issues of the fucking comic
jesus i have to explain this shit?
seriously????
jesus i have to explain this shit?
seriously????
echoshifting
Banned
I'm with Birdie. I haven't had the chance to read any comics today and the spoilers here kinda suck, guys. They kinda suck.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Unless your post is a Birdie-Proud "omfg this comic" or "you know the page i mean" take the eight fucking seconds and spoiler tag it
what is this grotesquely lazy nonsense
Baron von Loathsome
Member
My wallet's reaction to that new Humble Bundle.
