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COMICS! |OT| November 2015. The much-anticipated sequel to October's OT.
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I keep entering Sideshow competitions because that's the only way I'll ever own one. :O
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Seriously trying to get into Jessica Jones, but this series has the worst directing/cinematography/whatever of any damn show. Luke Cage is single-handedly saving this show from garbage status right now.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Digital works best. There'll probably be a full collection (if it doesn't exist already), but digital > physical in any case so
I didn't notice anything particularly objectionable about the directing, though the line delivery was a bit stiff in spots. Cinematography is pretty weak, though. Especially considering how high the bar was set by Daredevil, not to mention stuff like Gotham.
My big issue with JJ is that watching it makes me feel sad, which is not really what I look for in my entertainment.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I'm like 4/5 episodes deep, and it's just an ugly fucking show. None of the finesse from Daredevil comes over in the production/direction here, and any time there's any action, it's mostly clumsy and awkward and dudes being thrown into bad art hanging on walls (the first Luke/JJ bar fight being the only exception).
And yeah, the acting is stiff as hell, outside of Luke. I'm gonna get through the season, but holy fuckballs am I hoping it gets decent.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think one thing it does do really well is the more subtle displays of superstrength, like her confronting the twins in the apartment above hers. So it's got that going for it. Fights in general are pretty bad, though.
I think what might be influencing the overall appearance is this thing I've noticed about it where it feels like it's depressed. Or being seen through depression-vision. Like, everything's kinda flat. Which fits well with the overall tone of the show, which is depressed as hell.
my name is ed
Banned
JJ has one good fight scene which happens pretty early.
i kinda like how JJ's cinematography gives no fucks about swaths of screen space at points. i mean that honestly.
i kinda like how JJ's cinematography gives no fucks about swaths of screen space at points. i mean that honestly.
TetraxShards
Member
The print collections are grouped by the era they're based on, there's Flashpoint, Zero Hour, Crisis and Infinite Earths, two books of each. Superman and Nightwing/Oracle are both included in Convergence: Flashpoint Book One along with The Question, Batgirl and Justice League.
Digital would probably be cheaper, since you'd only have four issues to buy. There could well be a sale as well with Black Friday coming up.
La Maquinon
Member
You see ugly. I see gritty. I mean, it is Hell's Kitchen, after all.
I disagree about the acting. I think Krysten Ritter and David Tennent are great. The other actors are passable at worst.
I don't have an opinion on the action sequences because I'm not a big fan of them in general. I watch action scenes it just wanting them to end and for the good guys to win.
Yeah, it's got a depressing tone, I guess, but the protagonist is bummed out. Understandably so given her circumstances. I think her sense of humour and flippant personality and the dialogue in general lifts the tone a bit. But not a lot, I guess. But, for me, the fact that JJ is so weighed down and scared and cynical works. Because despite all of that and all she has to fear, she's determined to fight this guy and stop him from hurting people. I find her determination to fight to be itself uplifting.
Thanks for the response you two!! Looking at the other stories included, i think i'll buy Flashpoint Book One!! They seem interesting enough.
Definitely gonna add to my BF list! Actually the print is $12.27 on Amazon. Worth it?
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
They are trying to mimic the look of the comic.
Poodlestrike
Banned
See, when I meant "depressing," I don't mean the way that JJ herself is depressed, because of course she is; that's not the problem. The problem is the way the entire show sort of bends around that. Like the whole thing is covered in a think blanket of misery that makes even the attempts at levity ring ultimately hollow. If that's deliberate, it's very well done, but it's simply not something that I'm interested in watching.
And Filthy is right, it's a pretty bad looking show. Gritty is... a specific kind of high-detail, visually speaking, that JJ doesn't have.
Freezasaurus
Member
That bad? I'm going to start watching a bit later.
La Maquinon
Member
II knew what you mean. The point of my response was that the tone of the show is dark/depressing because she is. I can understand your criticism and why it doesn't work for you. I love the show and yet I have to take breaks between episodes because of how dark and intense it is.
Can't say much about the cinematography because I pay minimal mind to that stuff when it comes to TV. Set design, camera work, I will notice more often in movies. Most TV shows that I've seen keep that stuff simple. TV shows for most of the time they've been around have been talking heads and standing bodies. Whether it's TV or film, I jive off the feels, characters, dialogue and relationships. Whether that gets across through fancy camera work or acting.
Critisims about the technical part of the show aside, I wonder if this show is less appealing to some guys because they find it less relatable due to the protagonist being a woman. Not calling people sexist, just saying that it's typically harder to see through a characters eyes when your gender doesn't match theirs. A small example of this would be how the villian tells woman to smile. That shit burns me up because it's something I've experienced throughout my real life experience. Maybe not everyone relates to JJ like they do Daredevil or whomever.
MuddyDonut
Member
That's enough to make anyone unworthy
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I don't think any of my criticisms/issues of the show have anything to do with reliability--don't even think that's been discussed by anybody else in here either. I just made it through the episode with JJ's freakout in the married lady's apartment, and in order for relatability to even be an issue, there'd have to be some solid character work done here first, which there really ain't. Most of the characterizations are pretty surface-level flimsy so far. This just seems to be a really sloppily put together show in most ways, at this point.
And just to add to the relateability thing, I feel like I technically relate more with JJ than Matt Murdock, having depression and some past shit that's not really pleasant. I suspect a lot of people, gender aside, can relate more to JJ than a blind lawyer ninja.
E:
Patsy and Cop Dude
Poodlestrike
Banned
All sex in the 2.5 episodes I've seen has been missionary or Cowgirl.
There hasn't been much/any superheroing tho.
There's definitely some oral later on, but no anal.
I'd actually put Gotham at the top of comic book show cinematography, by a big margin.
Yea, there's a few more. They all but go away after the half-way point though.
I watched all of orange is the new black with my mother. Lots of oral in that show.
Did you feel awkward
La Maquinon
Member
I watched The L Word with my mom, ha. She said that when watching alone, she would usually fast forwarded the sex scenes. She liked the show for "the friendships."
La Maquinon
Member
That's cool. But, out of curiosity, why are you watching the show if you find it so terrible?
In the beginning sure. But later on no. My mother is chill.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It is an extremely pretty show.
Pro-tip: do not watch any Netflix Originals (or Amazon Prime originals or really any of the streaming services originals) with a parent, they're all terribly smutty.
Can't speak for him, but I feel kinda compelled to finish it just 'cause it's comicbook based and because I know full well that some other Marvel Netflix thing is going to build off it in some way and I should be up to speed.
I also really, really want it to get good. Because I think there's the makings of a fantastic show under all of the sad.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Because I'd like to watch the whole season to give it a fair shot. Is it cool to criticize the show?
And yeah, like Poodlestrike said, I want it to be good. I love the idea of street-level comic shows, and Daredevil proved it can be done, and done well. I'd like this to keep that awesome momentum going.
What's with this attitude?
Good show. It's not better than Daredevil imo, but still.
What attitude?
It's being overly defensive when no one is questioning his opinions.
La Maquinon
Member
Makes sense.
Of course. I was just curious to understand because I have different viewing habits. I give pilots a shot and if I don't love them, I don't continue. That's what I did with DD, Flash, and Arrow. But I'm not invested in any of these characters or the marvel universe in general.
I know this isn't a problem for most people, but I hate how Netflix originals are, with very very few exceptions, on two complete extremes content-rating-wise. Pretty much everything they put out is either TV-MA or TV-Little-Tiny-Kids. I wish they would bring a little more variety, for people who enjoy a mature show without much violence, sex, and profanity.
La Maquinon
Member
Watch Dinotrux! It's made for older children. Like, maybe 7-9, I'd guess. And it's awesome!
EEEEHHHH I understand your beef, but fortunately there are a lot of shows on CBS, NBC, ABC and other networks that provide what you're looking for.
You should try House MD. It's pretty good. The actress who plays Thirteen is awesome.
Hmm haven't heard of it. I'll look into it.
Yeah, I know. Most of the shows I watch are from networks like those. But Netflix is often great quality with little filler, so I'd love to see them tackle some stuff with a little more rating variety.
House is pretty awesome.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Yeah, I totally feel you. I wasn't into Flash at all (especially considering the current comic) when the show came on, but after the first few episodes, it just charmed the shit out of me and, honestly, the show just looked damn good.
That's kind why I'm sticking with JJ. The more rad, but most importantly good, comic shows there are out there, the happier I am. But I'm saying, Patsy is growing on this show, and now the bond between them is an actual thing. An enjoyable thing.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
My mother is chill, so I just told her how there was a sex scene in the comic and it'll probably be in this episode too, she wasn't bothered
I'd watch OITNB with her, but we're behind on way too many shows as it is
La Maquinon
Member
I actually really liked The Flash pilot. I love the kid who plays The Flash. But I really liking isn't enough for me. I gotta LOVE a thing. No, you know what it is? I hate teenagers and these kids seem barely out of their teens. It's terrible but I just don't like watching shows featuring teens or even college-age kids. I read JJ and crew as being more late-20's. Whether they are or not, but with all the living JJ has done (and the fact that the actress is 33) that's how it comes across to me.
Still haven't watched it, but JJ doesn't have as good of action as Daredevil? But that was the best paaaart. Man, hopefully it gets better as the show goes on, but I will pull back some of my expectations I suppose. Nice to know Luke Cage is the best part!
And...sorry, but bump:
Anyone? I just really want this comic ): Don't wanna get screwed over though.
And...sorry, but bump:
Anyone? I just really want this comic ): Don't wanna get screwed over though.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Ageist.
The reason for this is because JJ is not a martial arts expert and is a brawler with enhanced strength.
Still, the cinematography and dialogue are not on par with Daredevil. The way the action scenes were shot could have been better and editing leaves something to be desired.
A good show nonetheless.
La Maquinon
Member
Fpffft. Saying someone is ageist against young people is like the phrase "reverse racism." IE it doesn't exist. The western world revolves around youth.
I'm 38. At this point I've seen a zillion shows centring around teens and college-age adults. I'm just bored of it, is all.
I'm only 26 but I struggle to watch CW shows at times.
I've only watched 3 episodes of JJ so far but I'm really enjoying it. It's very much a weird almost noir detective story and I dig it.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Finished Battling Boy. It was interesting. I wouldn't say I loved it, but I didn't dislike it. Sort of weird, but nothing wrong with that.
I'm now reading DC's Solo (Deluxe Edition). I'm halfway through Tim Sale's issue, and I love it so far, even though I'm not a huge fan of Sale's art. I can still appreciate his style.
I'm now reading DC's Solo (Deluxe Edition). I'm halfway through Tim Sale's issue, and I love it so far, even though I'm not a huge fan of Sale's art. I can still appreciate his style.