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COMICS! |OT| October 2015. ...Are just something we do while the patch downloads.
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Freezasaurus
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This is the truth.
That said, having C and D-listers on a team was always the main appeal of Thunderbolts.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Oh thank you! I'll have to look out for Screaming_Gremlin's posts, to see what they've thought too. I didn't realise someone else was trying to get through all the order haha.
I haven't read much this week, just the Strange Tales run featuring Nick Fury and Dr. Strange. What I did like about Strange Tales is by the end of it's first cycle it went from being one of the most pointless books in the order to one of the best. The artwork was on another level too.
I'm currently 675 issues into the 616 reading order and I've just been introduced to MODOK!
http://cmro.travis-starnes.com/detail.php?idvalue=486
I think Ewimg said at the announcement of NA that Songbird has always been on this trajectory to be an Avenger. It was just a thing that was bound to happen eventually. It's funny because there's a joke in Ellis' Thunderbolts about how she'll never get the offer. I read that after the announcement, so that was great for me.
I'm sure we all know, but C-D listers will never be in the A-B tier until they start to get those positions. From what I can tell, Songbird has earned it.
Lol this is awful
Baron von Loathsome
Member
She got loose. Kneeloose.
Tizoc
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SpiderJerusalem
Banned
I think she's dancing
Tizoc
Member
My thoughts exactly.
Lol, another person joining the "dislike" side of Ultimate Marvel. Somewhere out there Gambit is crying. I still love Ultimate Spider-Man though.
Btw, It's been awhile since I got tp's so I ordered two new books: Got Avengers Time Runs Out vol 1 because fuck yeah this entire storyline, but my eye caught something and I just added it to my cart: Hulk: Gray. I loved Spider-Man Blue and Batman The Long Halloween by Loeb and Sale, so seeing this for 7,99 and I'm in the mood for something Hulk, I just thought sure why the hell not. Anyone from Comics GAF who read Gray?
Edit: sweet, good to hear. Now I realise I still need Spider-Man Blue lol.
Btw, It's been awhile since I got tp's so I ordered two new books: Got Avengers Time Runs Out vol 1 because fuck yeah this entire storyline, but my eye caught something and I just added it to my cart: Hulk: Gray. I loved Spider-Man Blue and Batman The Long Halloween by Loeb and Sale, so seeing this for 7,99 and I'm in the mood for something Hulk, I just thought sure why the hell not. Anyone from Comics GAF who read Gray?
Edit: sweet, good to hear. Now I realise I still need Spider-Man Blue lol.
Gray is AMAZING. Honestly, the whole line is fire.
Its fantastic. I think its maybe my favorite Color Book.
Paul Cornell did a six issue miniseries with Knight and Squire back in 09 or 10, but other than that the modern versions were a purely Morrison thing. There was a Golden and Silver Age Knight and Squire as well that popped up from time to time Batman comics in the 50s and 60s.
Everyone's favorite Witch Boy! As usual, it looks great ed!
Coriolanus
Banned
1948 and BRZPC Vampire continue the trend of Trevor Bruttenholm being The Most Depressing Bastard in the hellverse. Not quite sure why the Moon and Ba art feels a bit off. Kinda expecting those nuke glass shards from 1948 to have some side effect down the line since that tends to always be how the hellverse works.
Onwards to BPRJZ Hell on Earth
Onwards to BPRJZ Hell on Earth
Screaming_Gremlin
My QB is a Dick and my coach is a Nutt
My task isn't nearly as Herculean as yours. I am just reading through the Ultimate Universe, not Marvel as a whole. On one had, Loeb shit the bed so bad it didn't seem humanly possible to do so, but on the other hand it is just like 10 years worth of comics and there weren't nearly as many on-goings.
As far as recommending people read stuff like Ultimatum or Ultimates V3, it is honestly all pretty bad. And not bad in a good way.That being said, as long as you know what you are getting into, go for it if you want to. I would say up until this point the Ultimate universe as a whole has been more good than bad (Spider-man is great, FF was pretty good, X-men was average, and Loeb is a blackhole of horse shit).
Anyway, a quick update. I have now finished volume 1 and 2 of Ultimate Comics Avengers. I mentioned in my last post that this seems to be maximum Millar and I would stick to that statement.
The new Avengers team is just a complete recreation of the Ultimates, but more extreme. Red Wasp is just the Wasp, but more aggressive and is the lady that had her baby thrown out the window by Red Skull. Black Widow II is pretty much the first Black Widow, but not Russian and is Fury's ex-wife (they divorced because Fury slept with her mom, sisters, cousins, and all of her friends, but she still loves him, because who can't help but love Fury, right?). Gregory Stark is Tony's brother who is totally smarter and has totally built an even better Iron Man suit that Rhodes uses for War Machine. Nerd Hulk is just the Hulk, but maintains his intellect and doesn't get angry (which is like the 5th Hulk to do this). And then Hawkeye is on the team. Actually compared to how horrible Loeb wrote him, he is pretty normal in this series.
In the second volume, they finally add an original character in Tyrone Cash. He is supposed to be another Hulk knockoff, but actually seems more of a ripoff of Barracuda from Punisher MAX.
Neither of the arcs so far have been particularly memorable, but at the same time coming off of Loeb they really aren't that bad.
Screaming_Gremlin
My QB is a Dick and my coach is a Nutt
I think that was just Millar being Millar. There was never anything implying he was like that before.
Speaking of Ultimate Fury, is that him in ANAD Marvel or is it still that shitty Fury Jr. they introduced into 616? If it is Jr., it seems like a huge waste to have not just brought over Ultimate Fury, especially if they aren't going to use the original anymore.
The Red Wasp stuff is one of the most Millar of Millar things he's wrote for Marvel. Forced to kill husband to save baby, baby is killed anyway, then raped because the previous two things isn't bad enough. Ultimates 1 and 2 has some dumb stuff in them but goddamn the Ultimate Universe went awry before you knew it.
I'm glad the last few things I've read from him have moved away from the shock jock stuff.
I'm glad the last few things I've read from him have moved away from the shock jock stuff.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Really enjoying fatal attractions so far. I hope x-cutioner gets here soon since that seems to be the story between this and Bishop's crossing.
Is this your first time reading it?
I wonder if the events of X-Men #25 and Wolverine #75 will be as crazy for modern audiences
Welp, it looks like BPRD Plague of Frogs doesn't so much end as roll right into whatever happens in Hell on Earth, so now I'm even more impatient to eventually pick that up...
Still, the rest of the assorted stuff needs to come in first and then I need to wait a bit before I can finish off the Mignolaverse with Hell on Earth/in Hell+ Abe Sapien.
Still, the rest of the assorted stuff needs to come in first and then I need to wait a bit before I can finish off the Mignolaverse with Hell on Earth/in Hell+ Abe Sapien.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
They're all x-men omnibus. Fatal Attractions, X-cutioner's song, and Bishop's crossing. They seem to go in the reverse order story wise of what I listed.
I haven't read any I don't think... I didn't like bishop and the side characters as much as a kid so while I don't remember much at all of what I read, I doubt I would have read more than an issue or two of this. I got hooked from the cartoon show so I was always sad when there wasn't comics of that team so I mostly read anything with cyclops or gambit since they were my two favorite.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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TetraxShards
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I would rather no company did this. Otherwise there's no point to keeping comics and movies separate and you might as well just mash it all together.
I don't watch TV, I rarely watch movies. I don't want my funnybooks interrupted by either of those things. It annoys me so much when things get derailed because "uh-oh, gotta tie in for the five people who will buy a comic after seeing the movie".
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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TetraxShards
Member
You might as well buy a colouring book or a set of posters at that stage, so.
"There's too much story in my story-based medium!"
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Fuck it, keep fighting browbeating and fighting imaginary arguments.
KoruptData
Member
So what's people theory's on Shattered Empire leading into the movie?
Keep posting impressions, I'm curious to see how these old events hold up for new readers.
Tizoc
Member
Karnak #1
Must've forgotten this was by Warren Ellis.
This will be the one and only time Karnak gets any form of recognition.
Don't like how he's a jackass though.
Paper Girls 1
Good first issue but I felt it dragged until things got interesting
Megaman 54
Good character-centric issue, the next issue looks to be fantastic too
Must've forgotten this was by Warren Ellis.
This will be the one and only time Karnak gets any form of recognition.
Don't like how he's a jackass though.
Paper Girls 1
Good first issue but I felt it dragged until things got interesting
Megaman 54
Good character-centric issue, the next issue looks to be fantastic too
You crazy man. Crazy.
BossDarkseid
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Apart from Oscar Isaac's mum having been pilot for Leia and having met Luke...not really sure it's going to lead in that much. Maybe a throwaway remark about Sidious' dead man's switch in regards to Operation Cinder...
KoruptData
Member
I've really got nothing. I try to connect the trees to something but that's all I can do.
I really hate it when comic books introduce a plot point and then tell you to go read a different book in order to follow it, then move on to something else the next page, it makes the book feel like a delivery mechanism for a story instead of actually telling a story itself. Spiderverse reminds me of Blackest Night which was a lesser book if you weren't reading Green Lantern and Corps.
Same here.
I just buy the books man
WadiumArcadium
Member
Yeah, I can't remember the last time I read a book that did that. I tend to avoid them.
this would make a good tag.
I'll never give up on the tag, Wilde for Cockburn. Never.
BKatastrophe
Member
Same, but then again Hawkgirl won't be the badass in that series that she is in Earth 2. She would be unworthy of the costume.
....huh
He was in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. So props for that, I guess.
Karnak #1
Must've forgotten this was by Warren Ellis.
This will be the one and only time Karnak gets any form of recognition.
Don't like how he's a jackass though.
Megaman 54
Good character-centric issue, the next issue looks to be fantastic too
Hey, we like same things! I really liked Karnak.
Alright, weeklies:
Black Canary #5: Still really enjoying this book, though for a monthly it seems a bit short. Art also seemed to take a hit this issue, but I can't place my finger on why. Maybe I'm just crazy.
Karnak #1: Really liked it. Makes sense based on the events of Inhumans the role that Karnak has accepted and his new attitude. He's always beena condescending prick, just not as much in respect to the Royal Family. Though, he does seem far more over the top in that regard, but I think this book has done justice to the character thus far. The art is fantastic. The one thing that really bothered me about this book was the whole
"He takes smiling as an insult."
Uncanny Inhumans #1: Not a fan of the art. I'll say it. I don't like it. I wish Joe Mad was back. Beyond that, I liked it.
Invincible Iron Man #2: I liked this issue, so I'm going to keep reading this book. Friday is the fucking best.
Mega Man #54: I love Proto Man. Ever since I started reading MM, I've really enjoyed it. I should go back to the beginning, but I've heard Archie's trades aren't the best quality, so that makes me nervous. Still, if nothing else MM is a good action book.
Ivar, Time Walker #11: THis book has me rolling in stitches. I love it so much. I never have any idea what's about to happen, and I consistently enjoy every moment.
As for the trades I've read this week:
Fantastic Four/Inhumans: Atlantis Rising: Boy this book was super okay. A solid action book with a good premise, but a lot of wonky storytelling. The beginning and end are good, but the bulk of the problem is the entire middle section. It's a clusterfuck. Nathaniel Richards is doing shit then leaves, Maximus shows up, does something, and then never comes back. The Fantastic Force does some plot things, and then leave as well. Really, this books should be called Namor/Fantastic Four/Inhumans/Fantastic Force, because it is a far bigger crossover than I believed it to be.
Earth 2 Vol. 5: The Kryptonian: This book is godlike. Seriously. It never ceases to be one of the best superhero books I've read. Val is an amazing character and his stand against
Darkseid Superman
All-New X-Men Vol. 6: The Ultimate Adventure: This felt like Bendis shoehorning Miles into his book. Wasn't a fan and it feels largely inconsequential to everything that's happened, save for a brand new mutant with the ability to create portals to other worlds, which I guarantee is something that will never come up again. What a wet flop of an entry into a series I was really enjoying.
Next up is Green Lantern: No Fear, in order to continue my reading of Geoff Johns' run on GL. Also, I picked up the first trade of Johns' New 52 Aquaman, as well as The New Avengers: Illuminati (to continue my Inhumans reading).
Wow his art looks much different now.