Mr. Poolman
Member
You can ask on the Steam thread and the Build a PC threads.
They are full of friendly helpful people who can guide you on your way to PC gaming.
Console exclusives on PC
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You can ask on the Steam thread and the Build a PC threads.
They are full of friendly helpful people who can guide you on your way to PC gaming.
I don't want those.
SliceSabre
Banned
True. But as a consumer I don't want to tell a company to commit suicide. Telling Nintendo to go third party is something people who just don't get it say.
I understand your concern, but I doubt people would still get a PC if those exclusives found their way to it.
A small percentage sure. But most would still trade off simplicity and having to buy a PC in the first place and keep buying consoles.
I for one would love first party games on the PC, no "I hope it runs at 60fps!" but rather "I hope I can get this to 1440p/120fps! If not I can always come back later!"
Driveclub at 4k/60fps would be stunning.
Nintendo is different as they make most of their money off their hardware.
I'm pretty sure, anyway.
What major exclusive productions are coming out as exclusive to PC? I am really asking i dont want to stire up any controversy.
The only major productions that I can think off coming as exclusive to PC are MMORPGs and MMOAs.
Apart from that i am seeing a tendency to bring even former exclusive PC major productions to the multiplatform spectre , such as Crysis, Witcher, Diablo to name a few.
Again I am legitimately asking , perhaps i am indeed oblivious.
Stagnation is happening mainly with AAA multiplats from developers like Ubisoft, Activision and EA. Exclusives are usually very innovative. The advantage of exclusives is that a single game doesn't need to pay for itself, as long as it increases the appeal of the console it can cost more than it earns back in sales. Without exclusives the only big budget games you would get are dumbed down mass-market appealing games like Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed, and games like Gravity Rush or Bayonetta 2 would never exist. Without exclusives Platinum would just instantly go bankrupt, and that's not a world I want to live in.
PC is a great platform for multiplats but, in my opinion, the amount of interesting multiplats being released is very low. I'm looking at the games currently in my backlog and the games I'm interested in purchasing, and without exaggerating about 80-90% of those are exclusive titles.
I can appreciate that people like PC gaming, but I don't understand the sentiment that people would want consoles to perish in favor of everything ending up on Steam and the iOS/App Store, as I believe that would be a major step backwards in terms of innovation in gaming. Imagine Nintendo releasing only Mario and Zelda games because games like Xenoblade don't have big enough mass market appeal. Yikes.
Just be warned, there is no way back. Once you have experienced the magical powers of the PC, the many hours spent delving into strange Slavic forums dedicated to incredibly niche titles, modding games until the point they buckle under the weight, buying a GFX card only to become filled with disappointment as you see it outshone the following weekend by a new, shinier card, the madness will overcome you and a console will never look the same again.
Interfectum
Member
PS4 seems to be selling pretty well and AAA 3rd party games sell much better on PS4 than on PC so I'm not sure where the lack of 'viability' is.
Nah, he didn't.
Mr. Poolman
Member
You are cute.
BebopMcJigglypuff
Member
... just because they don't allow cross-platform play doesn't make it not console exclusive anymore.
Games that are not coming to X1 because of the parity clause aren't console exclusive, MS just doesn't want them? I don't think that's how that works.
In any event, I've always viewed FF11 + 14 / any MMORPG as actually having the PC as the lead sku...
Your last paragraph is wrong. Pc has very little overhead to develop for which means less risk from publishers. It's pretty much why the majority of indie games are on pc.
metareferential
Member
I'm not saying that it will happen, of course.
Sony is a troubled company, though. Good for them Playstation is virtually the only valuable brand they have.
I was using Nintendo as an example, I don't want them to go third party, neither do I think it will happen soon.
In the future, maybe. Like 10-15 years from now, who knows.
unapersson
Member
Anything that helps keep getting good games made is a bonus. Hopefully the Valkyria Chronicles port will help build interest in new games in the series.
Though it rarely affects me directly as it tends to be Windows rather than Linux ports, so I wind up getting them on console anyway.
The only console/pc port I have bought is X-Com, both the PS3 and Linux (+Enemy Within) version.
Though it rarely affects me directly as it tends to be Windows rather than Linux ports, so I wind up getting them on console anyway.
The only console/pc port I have bought is X-Com, both the PS3 and Linux (+Enemy Within) version.
We really need to get rid of the term 'Console Exclusive'. These games are on multiple platforms, there's nothing exclusive about them.
Anyway, I think it's great that these games are hitting the PC. Although I find it strange that Sony or Microsoft don't seem to think that the PC is a threat to them. Before games like Metal Gear Solid V we're announced for PC, I was planning on getting a PS4. The more these games go multiplatform the less likely it is that I'll get a new console any time soon.
The PC is is threat to them.
Anyway, I think it's great that these games are hitting the PC. Although I find it strange that Sony or Microsoft don't seem to think that the PC is a threat to them. Before games like Metal Gear Solid V we're announced for PC, I was planning on getting a PS4. The more these games go multiplatform the less likely it is that I'll get a new console any time soon.
The PC is is threat to them.
Well first off you said games period and now you've changed that to "major games" with the added disclaimer that MMOs and (I think you meant) MOBAs don't count.
Denton
Banned
This post made me literally laugh out loud, thank you for that.
would star citizen be major enough?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Sony definitely understands that PC is a threat. They never, ever put their first-party Playstation games on PC. Even Demon's Souls isn't on PC and that wasn't even first-party.
If they really wanted it then they'd make an exception. MS makes exceptions, like letting certain devs break download size limits.
Okay. Closed platforms are archaic and Sony and MS know this as well.
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Banned
Yeah, this is one of the biggest weaknesses of the PC platform, it's a terrible fit for pure vanity-projects that are supposed to enhance the portfolio of a console without really being financially sensible. They make inherently no sense on the PC. And tend to be pretty awesome.
Digital-Hero
Member
How is it a threat? I grew up playing PC games in the 90s - 2000s (When it was good.) and stopped. I use a PC for work/art and that is all.
Interfectum
Member
Exclusive in these cases means to exclude others from or restrict distribution of a particular product.
If there were no console exclusives, consoles(as we know them now) would certainly go away. Its why I always laughed at the idea that exclusives were bad for consumers and the industry. They're not, they're what drives the industry as we know it.
Sony and Microsoft can both afford to put out respectable hardware(for its time) and not worry about making money off it because of the closed ecosystem that follows from that in terms of subscriptions, games and accessories. PC gaming doesn't really have that. But console manufacturers need exclusives to drive people to buy into that ecosystem. Without them, you've got a decent deal on hardware(at first, once again), but little else to offer people. And with little else to offer people, they couldn't afford to sell them as cheaply as they do. So right there, the hardware price advantage goes away.
Exclusives make the console industry.
There was a graph that showed which platforms developers expected their next games to be on, from GDC or another developer conference. Do you (or does anyone) have that? I should have saved it.
I agree, PC is getting more and more traction and that's a great thing!
BebopMcJigglypuff
Member
I thought it was a given we are talking about major productions here. I do not suppose the subject of the op is how glad he is he got Fat princess on his pc, but the games he listed which are major AAA productions.
Based on that was my question. I see a tendency that most AAA productions head towards consoles these days. PC sure enjoys the best coming out of the indie scene, but i do not think this thread is about indies and honestly i dont think enough people care so much about indies to prefer them over some major console exclusive titles. Consoles as it is now are the focus of major AAA games and coupled with their first party lineup offer a more varied library on that front.
thewhitehawk
Member
I don't think that PCs compete with consoles, as much as I believe that most eastern companies are struggling to reach the levels of profit they used to so they are doing all they can to cater to all markets: mobile, consoles and PCs. The most efficient way for them to take advantage of the PC market is to release ports of previously-exclusive console games, and the best way for them to take advantage of the mobile market is to make spinoffs based on well-known IPs.
The reason why we are seeing these games isn't necessarily because the PC is a viable market but because most eastern companies, and also some western ones are struggling to profit. Crytek has had very public financial issues and Capcom's financial report this year had bleak results to show for it and Square Enix also started porting titles to climb out of the losses they showed last year.
PC is a fine gaming platform, but if consoles and publishers became financially successful enough again I doubt they'd be supporting it as well as they have lately. Between a completely open platform in which users can modify and freely pirate their software and one where users are completely locked to effective DRM you can be certain that publishers would prefer the later.
NickFire
Member
The truth is in the middle. The PC option is an alternative to consoles for plenty of people. But plenty of people also have zero interest at all in PC gaming, myself included. Despite its advantages, many people want nothing to do with the extra work involved, and prefer a nice clean closed system.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Considering that all of those other games in the OP were moneyhatted it really does.
AcceptableGhost
Member
this is not the 90s dude
It sort of makes sense. With consoles you have to pay a royalty fee to be on their platforms.
On the PC you can sell directly to customers and even though it is a lower price to the consumer the savings you make by not splitting revenue with the console manufacturer more than makes up for it.
The smartest publishers are those who are smart enough to sell their games on their websites but also allow the games to be organized and updated by popular stores like Steam, GMG and Amazon.
I'm glad more publishers and devs see the PC as a profitable platform again but I still wonder if I'll see Final Fantasy XV released on the PC within 3 months of the console release.
On the PC you can sell directly to customers and even though it is a lower price to the consumer the savings you make by not splitting revenue with the console manufacturer more than makes up for it.
The smartest publishers are those who are smart enough to sell their games on their websites but also allow the games to be organized and updated by popular stores like Steam, GMG and Amazon.
I'm glad more publishers and devs see the PC as a profitable platform again but I still wonder if I'll see Final Fantasy XV released on the PC within 3 months of the console release.
This is just so ridiculous.
The only real, tangible thing that may happen, is Sony might garner NEW fans for those franchises among PC gamers. PC gamers that might go ahead and pick up a console to play the next iterations of those games.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
That would only happen if Sony released some and then stopped.
And even then it probably wouldn't. Just look at how long some PC gamers have held out hope for Halo 3.
No, the main result would be to make people say that PS4 has no exclusives, and that there's no reason to buy one. See: Xbox1, er... the original Xbox.
JetForceGemini
Banned
how about we give you guys steam, and we get all the exclusives... with cross play
For example with steam you can experience winter and summer sales and we get to enjoy Halo with you guys, or maybe uncharted?
For example with steam you can experience winter and summer sales and we get to enjoy Halo with you guys, or maybe uncharted?
Kazdane
Member
If Final Fantasy XV comes to PC (which seems to be looking likely), my only reason to get a PS4 will vanish. It's the only franchise that has consistently managed to make me consider getting a console (I all
It's great to see how well PC is doing, considering that a decade ago (and even more recently) many so-called experts were claiming the impending demise of PC as a gaming platform.
It's great to see how well PC is doing, considering that a decade ago (and even more recently) many so-called experts were claiming the impending demise of PC as a gaming platform.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Games contracted with other known companies (Activision) that don't care about making a box look good to the consuner and now they want to make more money? Gee what a suprise.
Good for pc gamers.... If they actually port well... (Damn Ubi)
Good for pc gamers.... If they actually port well... (Damn Ubi)
metareferential
Member
Not sure what I'm reading here.
Interfectum
Member
Sarcasm.