Laptop1991
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No it was the last big PC exclusive at release top game, your wrong and you couldn't name one on Crysis's level released afterwards or even SP games when i asked.
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PC no longer gets big exclusives I’ve realised
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Guilty_AI
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"yes these are all big single player games from the last 20 years with definite popularity and technological/market/genre impact, but they don't count because reasons or because i haven't heard of them so they must not exist idk i make no sense"
every time
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poppabk
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The irony of this is not lost on me.
marjo
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There is such a wealth of great games on PC, why limit yourself to the so called 'AAA'. I recently picked up R.E.P.O. and Escape Simulator in the Steam sale. 2 very fun games when played with friends, for less than $20. If I was a console only player, I would have missed out on these expreriences.
Guilty_AI
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Laptop1991
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who said they didn't exist, your making your own argument up now, PC during the 90's and 2000's were the main focus of the industry for the top SP Games, now its not and i would love it to come back, its as simple as that.
Laptop1991
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I'm not a MP gamer so what, i never mentioned MP games.
Guilty_AI
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I presented you top games of their respective genres: RTS, Flight Sims, Driving sims, Military Sims, 4X, VR. And only single player ones since you seem to ignore many popular PC games from the 90s focused on MP like Quake or Unreal unreal tournament. At this point you're just ignoring reality.
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clarky
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I just told you Half Life Alyx fits your imaginary parameters as to what and what isn't a big exclusive game.
Laptop1991
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Yeah because it's Half Life, wow i wonder where that gets its fame from!!
clarky
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So sequels don't count either now?
poppabk
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Delta Force was a big single player PC only franchise (for the good games) in the exact era of PC single player games you are talking about.
Thebonehead
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You sure? Yesterday o got Ratchet and Clank on Steam so it's probably just stealing them now from consoles
Guilty_AI
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Only new IP third-person cinematic action adventure games count as "big SP exclusive"
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Laptop1991
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According to you they are top games, do they ever get in the top 10 or 20 best games ever like the ones i mentioned, and thats not the point about Quake or Unreal Tournament or MP at all, i owned both back then the PC is not the main focus of the gaming industry like it was back then SP or MP wise.
Laptop1991
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yeah from the time im talking about the 90's and 2000's lol, i meant the MP game that was quoted and no they wern't as big as Half Life or Unreal, i hadn't heard of the MP game, keep changing it all you want.
Laptop1991
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What are you taking about, i never said that either, do you just want to have an argument with yourself, it doesnt change what i said in my post.
Guilty_AI
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Who decided what are the "top 10 or 20 best games ever"? What is the criteria here? Is it popularity? Because some of those still make it to top played games on steam years after release.
Define "big", because some of the games i mentioned sold more than Half Life or Unreal on similar time-frames
Laptop1991
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They sold more now you mean after all this time, the game industry was a lot smaller back then, PC and Console games were mostly different, big as influential, remembered to this day, ported to consoles not the other way round like it is now as they were the top games back then not released on multiple platforms, are you saying PC is still the no 1 target platform for the biggest companies in gaming yes or no
clarky
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You asked me to name a big exclusive game that released after Crysis, I gave you quite a few.
Not sure why HL Alyx doesn't count.
Guilty_AI
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Now the goalpost is "targeted by the biggest companies". Mate, Valve, Epic and Id software weren't exactly big companies back then either. Influential perhaps, but so are the ones i mentioned if that's what you mean by "big".
Buggy Loop
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Total war warhammer doesn't count? Dude you keep moving that goalpost, it's pathetic.
Laptop1991
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Because it's VR and it's a niche market and it was already massively well know because of Half Life 1 and 2 from the time i'm talking about when PC was the no 1 platform, that's not an argument and it's technically not a real PC game if you have to buy a head set to play it, if they had released a standard HL Alex game on PC then you would be right. as it would of sold bucket loads
DenchDeckard
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Just play the games where you want. Its more like each platform has release dates now instead of exclusives. Just a couple of platforms will launch later due to moneyhats.
clarky
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So let me get this straight, your saying,
PC has had no big exclusive games since Crysis as long as we discount VR, Multiplayer, Stuff that didn't sell bucketloads and Sequels?
Guess your correct. My bad.
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Laptop1991
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they only pathetic thing is you think PC is the dominant market for the game industry and we just get mostly console ports and your defending your favourite games, please yourself, your talking nonesense, Crysis is still the last PC only released great game, that was advertised as such that doesn't mean your games are bad.
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Snakeeyes646
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Maybe not but 9 times out of 10 we get the best version of most games.
Laptop1991
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I never said that, i said the very top of the triple A SP market doesn't get PC exclusives anymore, what is wrong with you.
Buggy Loop
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Half Life Alyx was the most profound gaming experience I got in the past 15 years
Your parameters of what defines an exclusive is a fucking joke. Stop wasting everyone's time.
clarky
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You never said that either.
Laptop1991
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No i won't, don't like my opinion, tough, only a narcissist claims to speak for everyone
Half Life Alyx was the most profound gaming experience I got in the past 15 years
Your parameters of what defines an exclusive is a fucking joke. Stop wasting everyone's time.
clarky
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Thanks, I thought it was just me being a hungover mong.
Half Life Alyx was the most profound gaming experience I got in the past 15 years
Your parameters of what defines an exclusive is a fucking joke. Stop wasting everyone's time.
Laptop1991
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Yeah i did say that and it's true. meaning the top games
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Guilty_AI
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What i find funny is how stuck up you are on Crysis when - on the grand scheme of things - Crysis was a blip. It sold poorly, was made by a not-that-big company on the grand scheme of things, nor was it incredibly popular. It just generated a lot of noise around it because of the graphics.
On the other hand, SCS software who made the truck simulators games are on the ballpark of Kojima Productions and Shift Up in terms of size (companies who made "real exclusives" according to you) and have literally one of the most popular franchises on steam - completely single player too. But that "doesn't count" for mysterious reasons.
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Facism
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Who fucking pays sticker on PC lol.
Doesn't mean the RRP jump from £35/£40 to £60/£70 is a good thing.
Buggy Loop
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Nailed it.
original Crysis is in the 1~2M range sales. Half Life Alyx outsold that with VR headset price being in the way, so imagine that.
A ton of PC "exclusives" from late 90's with immersive sims, adventure games, space sims, flight sims closed down studios.
PC became a juggernaut for online games with the surge of MMOs, then MOBA, shooter MPs and now extraction shooters. Counterstrike 2, DOTA 2 and Escape from Tarkov on a daily basis have so much concurrent players that most console devs would sell their grandmother and invest billions to try to capture that (and they fail so far)
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clarky
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You not keeping up?
Nailed it.
original Crysis is in the 1~2M range sales. Half Life Alyx outsold that with VR headset price being in the way, so imagine that.
A ton of PC "exclusives" from late 90's with immersive sims, adventure games, space sims, flight sims closed down studios.
PC became a juggernaut for online games with the surge of MMOs, then MOBA, shooter MPs and now extraction shooters. Counterstrike 2, DOTA 2 and Escape from Tarkov on a daily basis have so much concurrent players that most console devs would sell their grandmother and invest billions to try to capture that (and they fail so far)
None of those games those count, jesus christ
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Guardian Monkey
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PC no longer gets big AAA sole exclusives 99% of the time now, but it does get all the games from all the systems one way or another eventually.
manfestival
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PC gaming is dead anyways
poppabk
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Point being - maybe you arent really a good judge of what a big or influential PC game is when you havent even heard of some of the big influential games. You were asking about a big single player game after Crysis and didn't even think of Starcraft 2 which was huge and had a big single player component.
But regardless PC gaming was already trending towards multiplayer - even Unreal and Quake which were both big SP franchises went MP only pretty quickly. And gaming in general just became more homogeneous - PC 'exclusives' were only ever games that there wasnt a perceived market for on consoles.
Laptop1991
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Well i bought all the top PC games during that time, 99 percent mostly single player, so maybe you shouldn't be commenting either then, we have different opinions and my original post didn't mention MP games, i don't care about them and it's irrelevant to the point, PC is no longer the main sole focus of the biggest Triple A SP games companies on it's own like it use to be 20 years ago, it's a simple fact, stop mentioning MP, it's irrelevant.
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Dalbajobas
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Could you give a REASON why any large studio would want to make a AAA PC exclusive game when consoles are just a little weak pc's now and porting costs pennies.
Laptop1991
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No i cant, that was my original point, 20 years ago PC did get the top exclusives, now it doesn't.
Dalbajobas
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And you got an answer very early why that is the case. The budgets for AAA has ballooned and releasing console or PC only exclusives makes little to no sense.
PC is in a much better state now then it was in the 'glory days' of the 90's.
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Laptop1991
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It changed a long time ago with multiplatform releases and Microsoft getting into competition with Sony in the console market, long before the modern day budget hikes and the success and money made from GTA online and MTX, i'm not sure what your arguing here, it doesn't have anything to do with my original point.
Steve Holt
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This is exactly why I and think a lot of gamers buy into PlayStation with each generation of hardware, and stick to console gaming. The platform is always going to get unreal third party support, especially now with Microsoft supporting them too, so it's a safe bet. And the fact they pay and support studios with the development and marketing costs involved in many exciting titles which are exclusively available to them is a big appeal. Its good to see with the success of Stellar Blade, Death Stranding and Black Myth, to name a few, that the model is still working well.
Dalbajobas
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I just don't see the point in crying over the fact that PC doesn't get many AAA exclusives. You have GP + Sony first party exclusives + more often then not Ninty games plays better and looks much better on PC than on their own platform (sure it takes a few years for emu to kick in).
PC has never been in such a great state. (minus the gpu prices)
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