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So. PC games and marathon?Death Stranding 2, Lost Soul Aside, Marathon, the #2 best-selling game in the US in March...
You seriously think it won't outsell the PS1 (and Wii)...?




So. PC games and marathon?Death Stranding 2, Lost Soul Aside, Marathon, the #2 best-selling game in the US in March...
You seriously think it won't outsell the PS1 (and Wii)...?
Didn't know DS2 had a PC port announced. Also, you literally asked about it, it's not anyone's problem that you'd rather doompost in a cringeworthy forum culture way than wait and see if a game is good.So. PC games and marathon?concord 2.0
Doesn't matter to me. I'm just saying Sony has been SHIT this gen. I'll buy a PS5 Pro. Only for GTA6. But they have piss all else that isn't on PCDidn't know DS2 had a PC port announced. Also, you literally asked about it, it's not anyone's problem that you'd rather doompost in a cringeworthy forum culture way than wait and see if a game is good.
So we're just going to pretend that Japan doesn't exist, eh?it's not a second wind... it's a long riding wave.
Sony finally WON the true console war. Sega-bye, Nintendo-bye, Xbox-bye. Now Playstation has consolidated itself as the King of the home console market; they finally own that market
once there is industry consolidation, the competition is driving by expansion."Fortunately for everyone, competition is still very strong across the board."
Where? PlayStation will be the to-go console for the average consumer.
Probably alongside the PC release window, I guess. it's going to be interesting how it runs on the XboxSSI hope GTA VI gets announced for Switch 2. Not because I want it; just for the glorious meltdowns.
Well, just accept that the market disagrees with your opinion.Doesn't matter to me. I'm just saying Sony has been SHIT this gen. I'll buy a PS5 Pro. Only for GTA6. But they have piss all else that isn't on PC
You fell for the bait. The truth is Sony doesn't have to release not one PS5 exclusive going forward for PS5 to continue selling well but the trolls will reach for this talking point.Didn't know DS2 had a PC port announced. Also, you literally asked about it, it's not anyone's problem that you'd rather doompost in a cringeworthy forum culture way than wait and see if a game is good.
is Japan the entire market?So we're just going to pretend that Japan doesn't exist, eh?
I can play both those games on PCWell, just accept that the market disagrees with your opinion.
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Sony says Spider-Man 2 is the fastest selling PlayStation Studios game in history | VGC
The game sold through 2.5 million copies in its first 24 hoursโฆwww.videogameschronicle.com
Just like I fully believe that GTA is shit and I'm still aware that the market disagrees with my opinion.![]()
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You first stated that Sony isn't making any games, I proved you wrong on that before you started resorting on "b-but they're on PC!" as if 1. that somehow changes the fact that Sony is still producing those games and 2. people seriously give a shit about it. PS5 just had its best Q3 (October-December), way after the console had its peak FY. Spider-Man 2 broke record numbers as an exclusive on a PlayStation platform way after the PC push began. Sure, dislike the strategy all you want, but the fact that you need to point that out while it's completely unrelated to the topic at hand speaks a lot about you.I can play both those games on PC
Not sure your end game. Doesn't matter to me if one platform sells 10000000000 copies and the other sells 3. It's available
Im just not a console fanboy. Owned them all since NES era. Matters none which sells more to me. On which platform.
Sounds like this thread wasn't for you, then.Fuck anything else and who sells more and when and why and how.
Again. It's not exclusive to PS5. My PC plays those games. No need for a PS5.You first stated that Sony isn't making any games, I proved you wrong on that before you started resorting on "b-but they're on PC!" as if 1. that somehow changes the fact that Sony is still producing those games and 2. people seriously give a shit about it. PS5 just had its best Q4, way after the console had its peak FY. Spider-Man 2 broke record numbers as an exclusive on a PlayStation platform way after the PC push began. Sure, dislike the strategy all you want, but the fact that you need to point that out while it's completely unrelated to the topic at hand speaks a lot about you.
The funniest thing is that you felt the need to move the goalposts or suddenly make the matter about YOU right after your initial post got proved wrong and you avoided accepting that. This is why discussion here is so utterly fucked up.
Seems like you didn't even read my post out of laziness or something, which also gives me an idea of why you think I somehow lost control of myself because I wrote more than two sentences in my post, lol. That's how good discussion works.Again. It's not exclusive to PS5. My PC plays those games. No need for a PS5.
UNTIL GTA6
You pointing out sales matters none to me. It's AVAILABLE on PC. Not interested personally. The first one was good. I've heard mixed on the 2nd Spider-Man. But it's on PC. Calm down.
is Japan the entire market?
as i said, consolidation:
Market Kings:
Home Console: Playstation
Handheld: Nintendo
PC: Steam
Mobile: Android/Apple (depending how you want to slice it)
And is that a victory? Sony doesn't need to do the bare minimum, which is to launch exclusives to sell its console, so much so that its game production in this generation left a lot to be desired, and whoever points this out and complains is the troll?You fell for the bait. The truth is Sony doesn't have to release not one PS5 exclusive going forward for PS5 to continue selling well but the trolls will reach for this talking point.
What about?... i will tell you what about them:
What about people who buy Switch and never play undocked? Is it not a home console then?
Why does a game have to be exclusive for anyone to enjoy it?And is that a victory? Sony doesn't need to do the bare minimum, which is to launch exclusives to sell its console, so much so that its game production in this generation left a lot to be desired, and whoever points this out and complains is the troll?
Come on guys, I don't understand how this helps you consumers.
PS6 will have to release in 2028+ for PS5 to achieve the sales you are saying.
Sony will absolutely raise the price of their games, and further stall the generation's second half.
Not only will Sony increase the costs of its games, I suspect it'll match Nintendo's prices to force user comparisons and not leave money on the table. If Mario Kart World sells for USD$90.00, and people pay it, you better fucking believe Sony will want The Last Of Us Part 1 Remake Remastered Complete Edition Redux on store shelves for USD$90.00.
- They were the first out of the game with the USD$70.00 base price.
- They were the first to introduce paid patches to bump resolutions and frame rates.
- Optics demands equality; if their games are priced under everyone else's, it could be perceived Sony thinks they're lower quality.
- Players have demonstrated a willingness to buy Sony's products at inflated prices.
- Sony has no competition to force it to keep its prices lower to compete.
- Shareholders always demand higher returns, which either requires more customers - which don't exist - or higher prices.
- Sony has demonstrated a desire to continue to push hardware pricing higher to maintain its current profit ratios.
PS6 will still probably launch end of 2027, Sony this gen let last gen stay for more than half the lifecycle of PS5, it will probably happen when PS6 releases. It's taking longer an longer for devs to develop and get used to the hardware these days because of all the options consoles now have. Won't be surprised if PS5 is still getting pushed well into the PS6 lifecycle especially once it gets heavily discounted considering we are in the diminishing returns era.If you think it's going to take a few years for PS5 to catch its second wind then when do you expect PS6 to launch?
PS6 will still probably launch end of 2027, Sony this gen let last gen stay for more than half the lifecycle of PS5, it will probably happen when PS6 releases. It's taking longer an longer for devs to develop and get used to the hardware these days because of all the options consoles now have. Won't be surprised if PS5 is still getting pushed well into the PS6 lifecycle especially once it gets heavily discounted considering we are in the diminishing returns era.
I'm a huge Sony fanboy, had every console and handheld since the OG PS1 at launch. I have the PS5 Pro, and this is the first time ever that I'm considering not buying the PS6 at launch because Pro will probably take me through for at least the first couple years. I just don't see PS6 being some massive upgrade over the Pro.
I personally think PS5 will get a second wind and more people will adopt when it becomes last gen and it can be had for a cheaper price.
2nd best selling console with the worst game library of all generations.
Alternatively, no need for a PC, as PS5 has all the big games and often receives them first.Again. It's not exclusive to PS5. My PC plays those games. No need for a PS5.
UNTIL GTA6
You pointing out sales matters none to me. It's AVAILABLE on PC. Not interested personally. The first one was good. I've heard mixed on the 2nd Spider-Man. But it's on PC. Calm down.
Go check the thread that voted this generations PlayStation 5 as the worst.Keep telling yourself this as banger after banger is released. Maybe you'll convince yourself, but good luck getting this to stick through time. This is just the rise of cynicism that ignores games like Metaphor, Expedition 33, Split Fiction, Ghost of Yotei, Death Stranding 2, Astro Bot, Baldur's Gate 3, FF7 Rebirth... GTA6...
Go check the thread that voted this generations PlayStation 5 as the worst.
And it's not even close.
What if Jupiter was my hair and Saturn was my hairbrush?
What about people who buy Switch and never play undocked? Is it not a home console then?
Next gen will probably fully embrace AI & do a quick break from current Gen .PS6 will still probably launch end of 2027, Sony this gen let last gen stay for more than half the lifecycle of PS5, it will probably happen when PS6 releases. It's taking longer an longer for devs to develop and get used to the hardware these days because of all the options consoles now have. Won't be surprised if PS5 is still getting pushed well into the PS6 lifecycle especially once it gets heavily discounted considering we are in the diminishing returns era.
I'm a huge Sony fanboy, had every console and handheld since the OG PS1 at launch. I have the PS5 Pro, and this is the first time ever that I'm considering not buying the PS6 at launch because Pro will probably take me through for at least the first couple years. I just don't see PS6 being some massive upgrade over the Pro.
I personally think PS5 will get a second wind and more people will adopt when it becomes last gen and it can be had for a cheaper price.
Laptops aren't designed to hook up to your TV or wirelessly casted. Those are 2ndary peripheral feature.What if Jupiter was my hair and Saturn was my hairbrush?
That's like saying someone having a laptop exclusively on their TV is a home console. What about those who exclusively cast their Chromebook to their TV?
Switch needs an accessory(packed in) to connect to a TV, a laptop is designed to be hooked up to external displays and has the port built in.Laptops aren't designed to hook up to your TV or wirelessly casted. Those are 2ndary peripheral feature.
Switch is designed to be docked to your TV, hence the dock it ships with.
Say what? These things are basically standard nowLaptops aren't designed to hook up to your TV or wirelessly casted. Those are 2ndary peripheral feature.
Switch is designed to be docked to your TV, hence the dock it ships with.
The thing people like you don't seem to understand is that there is a massive market that doesn't care about games being available on PC.I can play both those games on PC
Not sure your end game. Doesn't matter to me if one platform sells 10000000000 copies and the other sells 3. It's available
Im just not a console fanboy. Owned them all since NES era. Matters none which sells more to me. On which platform.
I think COVID ruined Sony's plan to continue selling PS4 after the ps5.
It will be rather crazy if PS5 can't sell more than PS4 considering Xbox sales imploded and Microsoft shows little interest in selling hardware now. Nintendo does their own thing with the Switch. Right now though it is unclear if PS5 will definitely surpass PS4.
They will cross 100 million, but beating PS4 at 120 million+ is going to be a big ask, that too after the PS6 is out in 2027.
As far as we know for 2025 they have:What Sony games have come in 2025? Whats coming yet? Ghost of whatever. Then what? They're busy with tv shows and other things not named making games. Least, far as I've seen anyhow.
Took 5 gens and 3 competitors but they finally have no primary competition only secondary.
Well something has to change lolNext gen will probably fully embrace AI & do a quick break from current Gen .
Now do games not on PC or won't be on PCThere are several things that lead to think PS5 sales will be great in the coming years, way higher than the ones PS4 had on its second half of the life cycle:
Despite having experienced important shortages issues, price rises instead of price cuts, a lot of the top selling IPs/studios still not having released its first current gen only game and Switch breaking records and having a record number of PS4 users who still didn't upgrade, PS5 is selling launch aligned almost like PS4 and breaking revenue, profit, active userbase, gamesub revenue and first party game sales records.
- Xbox dying, its prices skyrocketing and main MS games being released in PS5
- Switch sales sunseting because it's being replaced soon with an overexpensive Switch 2 that may break launch sales record but for the first year seems to have only Mario Kart as super seller IP as exclusive between its overpriced games
- In PS5, during 2025 or 2026 Assassins Creed, Kojima, Ghost of Tsushima, Bungie, GTA, NFL will have released their first current gen only, non-crossgen game. Maybe Guerrilla, SSM, Wolverine and ND too. And will have started to get MS games like Forza Horizon, Gears or Indiana Jones
- Due to crossgen, PS+ and GaaS there's still a record amount of PS4 players still active still waiting to upgrade, who may jump as the games mentioned above keep being relesed.
- AAA Chinese games, Sony gaming IPs adapted to movie & tv shows and Sony PC ports seem to have brought many new players to PS5, and there are plenty of them more planned for the upcoming years
Once all the super seller IPs & studios -mainly GTA and CoD- move to current gen only many of these many dozens of millions of players who are still active in PS4 will migrate to PS5. So in the long run PS5 very likely will end selling considerably more than PS4 specialy due to selling way more during the second half of its life cycle.
Sony is experiencing the top grossing generation for any console maker ever, and their success will only increase in the next couple of years and beyond.
As far as we know for 2025 they have:
For 2026:
- Destiny 2: The Edge of Fate expansion (top 1 in preorders for most countries)
- Death Stranding 2
- Stellar Blade PC
- Lost Soul Aside
- Marathon
- Ghost of Yotei
- Convallaria
- Destiny 2: Renegades expansion (top 1 in preorders for most countries)
- Potentially more unannounced Sony stuff as could be Venom
- MS releasing in PS5 games like Indiana Jones, Oblivion Remastered, Forza Horizon 5, Gears of War, Doom The Dark Ages, Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4, CoD...
Pretty likely after 2026:
- Saros
- Wolverine
- GTA6
- Potentially Horizon Online, next SSM title, Fairgame$, Firesprite's dark horror adventure
- Intergallactic
- Star Wars KOTOR remake
- People Can Fly game
- Next Media Molecule game
- Next Team Asobi game
- Horizon 3
- more Sony stuff I'm forgetting right now
GAF is an echo chamber huh?GAF is an echo chamber and highly cynical. Thinking that a poll on GAF somehow proves something is crazy.
It's like a group of teenage girls who thinks they're cooler for hating on everything current. It's not even a GAF invention.
Go check out that PC vs console thread.Go check the thread that voted this generations PlayStation 5 as the worst.
And it's not even close.
GAF is an echo chamber huh?
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No Saturn, no Jaguar, get to it...I've owned
NES
SNES
Genesis
32X
Virtual Boy
Gameboy
N64
Ps1
Dreamcast
PS2
PS3
PS4
Xbox
Xbox 360
Xbox one
Xbox One X
Game Gear
Game boy color
GBA
DS
3DS
Wii
Wii U
Switch
PC obviously
Etc
It's all whatever. Where the good games are. That's where I'm at. Period. Fuck anything else and who sells more and when and why and how.
What about?... i will tell you what about them:
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That's why I mentioned consolidation. These few poor people who think Nintendo is still competing in the home console market are living in nostalgic times