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[Leonidas]

Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty Benchmark Performance Review - 25+ GPUs Tested

The Phantom Liberty expansion brings big improvements to Cyberpunk 2077 and adds an exciting new story line. The game also gets support for DLSS 3.5 and Path Tracing. In our performance review, we're taking a closer look at image quality, VRAM usage, and performance on a wide selection of modern...

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Turn on RT and the 7900 XTX loses nearly 2/3 of it's frames (and loses to the 4070). Turn on path tracing and the 7900 XTX performs at only 10% of its raster performance (and is only 1/2 the speed of a 4070). With path tracing the $1000 7900 XTX even loses to the $299 RTX 4060.
RTX 4090 on the other hand keeps over half it's frames with RT and over 1/3 of it's frames with PT.

 

[Kacho]

1080p benchmarks? What year is it?

 

[AV]

1080p?

 

[killatopak]

You sure this isn't with DLSS? Just 1080p?

 

[Leonidas]

1080p benchmarks? What year is it?

1080p?

No one is going to run RT / PT at native 1440p/4K. There are native results in the article, but they are abysmal since DLSS/FSR wasn't used.

You sure this isn't with DLSS? Just 1080p?

All native. There were no DLSS/FSR results unfortunately.

 

[Mortisfacio]

No DLSS explains a lot then. Without DLSS, even the 4090 was about 15-20fps on RT overdrive.

 

[Kacho]

since DLSS/FSR wasn't used

Ok that makes sense

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Jesus Christ AMD, you need to pull your shit together and put some dedicated RT cores on your next RDNA series of GPUs. Your flagship 7900XTX gets murdered in 1080p path tracing / overdrive by a fucking RTX 4060.

 

[PonyStation4]

1080p benchmarks? What year is it?

 

[Zuzu]

Why doesn't AMD just copy Nvidia and make their ray tracing better?

 

[Leonidas]

Missing the PT results.

 

[marjo]

I'm hoping my 3080 will get 30 fps with Path Tracing at 1440p with DLSS set to balanced.

 

[SABRE220]

Jesus christ the state of amds rt tech....its losing badly to a damn 4060 in path tracing and a 3080 in simple rt. How unambitious must one be to allow stagnation on this level. They simply didnot invest in anything besides raster and simply put their head in the sand and said our current path is good enough despite their competitors actively investing in R&D and innovation. Hell even intel left them in the dust in rt and ml despite this being their first dedicated architecture...I wish I could say ive become apathetic to amds failure and downfall but sadly that would be a lie. Amd basically gutted ati to fuel its cpu sector and this is the result.

 

[shamoomoo]

Jesus Christ AMD, you need to pull your shit together and put some dedicated RT cores on your next RDNA series of GPUs. Your flagship 7900XTX gets murdered in 1080p path tracing / overdrive by a fucking RTX 4060.

They have dedicated RT cores, it just not a separate unit to accelerate every aspect of ray tracing/path tracing.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I'm hoping my 3080 will get 30 fps with Path Tracing at 1440p with DLSS set to balanced.

Possibly, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

 

[Kakax11]

So

CP2077 was released 3 years early??

 

[analog_future]

Jesus Christ AMD, you need to pull your shit together and put some dedicated RT cores on your next RDNA series of GPUs. Your flagship 7900XTX gets murdered in 1080p path tracing / overdrive by a fucking RTX 4060.

Cyberpunk RT runs uniquely bad on AMD hardware for whatever reason.

AMD does need to work on their RT performance, but this is an outlier.

 

[marjo]

Possibly, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Well, it's getting close to 30 at 1080p, and I think 1440p with balanced DLSS should run somewhat faster. If not, I'll lower DLSS to performance.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

7900XTX loses to 2080 Ti with path tracing. That is nuts.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Thanks for posting this. I'm going to extrapolate some of the info for the performance thread.

 

[Bojji]

Cyberpunk RT runs uniquely bad on AMD hardware for whatever reason.

AMD does need to work on their RT performance, but this is an outlier.

Reason is that this is actually advanced and heavy rt workload compared to AMD sponsored titles that have very simple (and often low quality) rt effects.

 

[SABRE220]

Cyberpunk RT runs uniquely bad on AMD hardware for whatever reason.

AMD does need to work on their RT performance, but this is an outlier.

Thats because this is easily the most comprehensive rt benchmark currently, most other games have gi limited to a single bounce or rt reflections but when the full suite of rt features are turned out amd starts sputtering and when pathtracing gets turned on....you can see portal etc and its not pretty.

 

[thuGG_pl]

I don't understand why they didn't do tests with DLSS 2 and 3(.5).

 

[Bojji]

I don't understand why they didn't do tests with DLSS 2 and 3(.5).

This 1080p test is quite comparable to 4k with dlss performance (it will be slower but not much).

 

[LiquidMetal14]

This 1080p test is quite comparable to 4k with dlss performance (it will be slower but not much).

What I came to say.

Those tests are coming. No worries there.

 

[GymWolf]

I have 2 questions:

If i keep rtx reflections ON can i turn off ssr? or they mix for even better reflections?
Similar to the first question, if i turn ON overdrive mode, can i turn off rtx lights or they combine?

 

[Leonidas]

Jesus christ the state of amds rt tech....its losing badly to a damn 4060 in path tracing and a 3080 in simple rt. How unambitious must one be to allow stagnation on this level. They simply didnot invest in anything besides raster and simply put there head in the sand and said our current path is good enough despite their competitors actively investing in R&D and innovation. Hell even intel left them in the dust in rt and ml despite this being their first dedicated architecture...I wish I could say ive become apathetic to amds failure and downfall but sadly that would be a lie. Amd basically gutted ati to fuel its cpu sector and this is the result.

Wait for RDNA4

7900XTX loses to 2080 Ti with path tracing. That is nuts.

Yeah, insane to see the RTX 4060 outperform the 7900 XTX there too.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Why bother doing the gpu tests when its the CPU requirements that are the thing that has actually significantly changed with the dlc?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Why bother doing the gpu tests when its the cpu requirements that are the thing that has actually significantly changed?

For science son.

 

[Turk1993]

I have 2 questions:

If i keep rtx reflections ON can i turn off ssr? or they mix for even better reflections?

Mix for better reflections.

Similar to the first question, if i turn ON overdrive mode, can i turn off rtx lights or they combine?

Thanks.

They combine, Overdrive takes the place of Pyscho lighting and RT shadows.

 

[T4keD0wN]

For science son.

Thats fair

 

[GymWolf]

Mix for better reflections.

They combine, Overdrive takes the place of Pyscho lighting and RT shadows.

Wait, so how should i set things for best quality? rtx lights on ultra but not psycho, rtx shadows off and overdrive ON?

 

[Turk1993]

Wait, so how should i set things for best quality? rtx lights on ultra but not psycho, rtx shadows off and overdrive ON?

The moment you turn on Overdrive mode the other settings disable

Overdrive turned on

vs

Normal RT

 

[SlimySnake]

I'm hoping my 3080 will get 30 fps with Path Tracing at 1440p with DLSS set to balanced.

It averages 27 fps at 1080p so I'm assuming 30 fps 960p internal for dlss balanced should be doable.

That was the case for me for cyberpunk pt.

 

[Turk1993]

It averages 27 fps at 1080p so I'm assuming 30 fps 960p internal for dlss balanced should be doable.

That was the case for me for cyberpunk pt.

This is even more demanding than the base game keep that in mind.

 

[shamoomoo]

7900XTX loses to 2080 Ti with path tracing. That is nuts.

That's mostly likely because the path tracing was designed with Nvidia hardware in mind.

 

[SlimySnake]

This is even more demanding than the base game keep that in mind.

Figured. But this is on ultra settings so some smart downgrades should help get a stable 30 fps.

 

[Turk1993]

That's mostly likely because the path tracing was designed with Nvidia hardware in mind.

No, its because Nvidia's hardware is superior in RT. You can take the best AMD engineers and let them optimise the shit out of CP2077 overdrive mode and it will still run badly compared to Nvidia.

 

[GymWolf]

Ok as i tought, overdrive does absolutely nothing for me, i'm gonna play around to see if i change idea...

Some random pics

Yes i used my phone to take pics directly from my tv like a noob, deal with it

 

[RAIDEN1]

Seeing all this Cyberpunk content makes me wonder about Deus Ex

 

[hinch7]

Hmm quite similar performance to 1.0. Which is a bit of a relief. Should at least run PT fine at 1440P with some tuning on my 4070Ti.

 

[JokerMM]

will my rtx 3070ti even handle this on ultra with RT?

 

[Skifi28]

Are the terrible artifacts and visual noise in PT fixed after the update? It was unplayable for me, but not due to performance.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I made the lonely Phantom Liberty performance/screenshot thread for those interested.

I NEED THIS FIX BOYS!

 

[nikos]

I just ran some benchmarks to figure out how I'm going to play when 2.0 releases. I'd like to stay out of the settings as much as possible.

I don't think Path Tracing is worth the performance hit. This game also has a ridiculous amount of latency, which feels bad.

3840x1600
DLSS - Quality
Frame Generation On
7800X3D, RTX 4090, 32GB DDR5, Gen 4 WD Black SN850X SSD

Max Settings / Ray Tracing Psycho

Max Settings / Path Tracing

 

[SF Kosmo]

This isn't even factoring in DLSS, which is not just a performance enhancement in this case but also a huge image quality enhancement for the path traced mode.

This is really THE showcase for nVidia's vision for the future of computer graphics. Crazy future tech that shouldn't be possible but with the help of DLSS run at really excellent speeds and quality, while running at an unplayable 15 fps on the top of the line AMD card.

nVidia bet big on RT and AI, and it didn't pay off for two generations, but now we can finally see it coming together, fully path-traced, next-gen games like Alan Wake II and Cyberpunk. The stuff that seemed impossible when Turing launched.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I've tested Nvidia's latest ray tracing magic in Cyberpunk 2077 and it's a no-brainer: at worst it's just better-looking, at best it's that and a whole lot more performance

Nvidia's DLSS 3.5 Ray Reconstruction feature fits perfectly with Cyberpunk 2077's 2.0 added realism.

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at worst it's just better-looking, at best it's that and a whole lot more performance
Ray Reconstruction, while still part of DLSS, is not necessarily about increasing performance, but it certainly does at the high-end. Where the path tracing mode of the game needs a lot of GPU resources, it utilises a lot of denoisers in the pipeline. With that step gone, I was seeing a serious boost in performance with the RTX 4090 I was using to test the feature.

On Overdrive, with the path tracing tech demo at 4K, and with DLSS set to Quality and Frame Generation set on, I was getting 69 fps on average. But with Ray Reconstruction enabled that leapt up to 103 fps simply from ditching that denoising step. That makes Ray Reconstruction an absolute must for high-end GPUs running ray tracing.

I was getting 69 fps on average. But with Ray Reconstruction enabled that leapt up to 103 fps simply from ditching that denoising step.

So can be barely a difference when the scenes had few denoisers, but when they had them stacked with the old ones, this ray reconstruction can see a massive 30 fps boost

Holy fuck

Nvidia is so many years ahead. AMD can't catch a fucking break

This is the first time in decades for a same API we have such a difference in image output between vendors. It doesn't even look like the same gen.

 

[KuraiShidosha]

So happy I have a 4090. And I ordered that InnoCN 27M2V 4k 144hz MiniLED monitor and it's arriving tomorrow, just in time for the patch. So hyped to see that glory.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Ok as i tought, overdrive does absolutely nothing for me, i'm gonna play around to see if i change idea...

Some random pics
... *insert garbage phone pics*...
Yes i used my phone to take pics directly from my tv like a noob, deal with it

Every time you'll be in indirect light situation like this

Or have characters around

You'll remember that you're playing in "old gen" mode. You'll end up enabling path tracing all the time.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Every time you'll be in indirect light situation like this

Or have characters around

You'll remember that you're playing in "old gen" mode. You'll end up enabling path tracing all the time.

Yeah, Overdrive really is a true next-gen renderer. With hybrid/partial RT (and on more limited hardware), I can see why people might opt for the high framerates, but Overdrive is actually delivering in the promise of RT

if you have a 4070Ti or better, and you can run this game at 90fps with all the bells and whistles, it's really the only way to go. I can't imagine going back.