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Dark Souls II |OT++| Bearer of...Seek...Seek...Lest
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Laurentius
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Orochinagis
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So, the white ladyes prayers drops that armor set? I want a winter armor for my travels in this DLC.
So far I am not liking this DLC so many re ussed assets and still relying in the old trap "kill that visible guy while there are other hiding to punish you", its not fun when you do it for the infinite time in previous DLCs.
So far I am not liking this DLC so many re ussed assets and still relying in the old trap "kill that visible guy while there are other hiding to punish you", its not fun when you do it for the infinite time in previous DLCs.
I got to the outskirts and managed to get to the boss within my second try. It was surprisingly easy and I even managed to almost kill the boss (
) but a bad roll + bad estus timing got me killed.
Then over the next couple hours I never managed to do any better. Like not even close. I have no idea what I did to get through so easy early on but the I could only make it to the boss half the time and when I did make it to the boss, I couldn't even get half way before dying. Question about the boss
I kinda like the area in concept where it's easy to get turned around but once you know the path, it's a long run. There should have been some sort of shortcut once you make it there the first time, just to cut down on the tedium of running a line for a few minutes. Also for a co-op area, it's pretty shitty area to have people "helping". I tried using the NPC summons as bait for the enemies while I ran away but that always seemed to bite me in the ass later.
I killed one of them before the other even got down to help and got the other down to about 15%
Then over the next couple hours I never managed to do any better. Like not even close. I have no idea what I did to get through so easy early on but the I could only make it to the boss half the time and when I did make it to the boss, I couldn't even get half way before dying. Question about the boss
are they resistant to magic or weak to anything (ie strike vs slash)?
I kinda like the area in concept where it's easy to get turned around but once you know the path, it's a long run. There should have been some sort of shortcut once you make it there the first time, just to cut down on the tedium of running a line for a few minutes. Also for a co-op area, it's pretty shitty area to have people "helping". I tried using the NPC summons as bait for the enemies while I ran away but that always seemed to bite me in the ass later.
What assets?
DarkHeartedKill
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Does the Eleum Loyce lose durability when you use the heal ability? Also how much does it heal?
CountAntonius
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Seventy is to quick roll. The others are for how far you roll.
emperorspride188
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http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/rolling check here.
only at 50% and 70% there is a significant difference.
Thanks. Interesting. It looks like staying under 50% is a good tradeoff. 20 hours into the game, and I refused to go under 30% lol. Should have known to ask before.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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Why am I fighting Smelter Demon again? This is dumb.
I feel like taking damage in Dark Souls II is just unavoidable. The enemies that can rotate in place, the huge number of active frames on their attacks, the sheer number of times you're ganged up on by enemies that can't be beaten in 1-2 hits, the mediocre roll. It just doesn't work nearly as well as it should.
I feel like taking damage in Dark Souls II is just unavoidable. The enemies that can rotate in place, the huge number of active frames on their attacks, the sheer number of times you're ganged up on by enemies that can't be beaten in 1-2 hits, the mediocre roll. It just doesn't work nearly as well as it should.
Iva Demilcol
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Lost 40K souls fighting against some hedgehogs... feel like an idiot now ._.
Those guys are seriously the strongest regular ass enemies I have ever seen. Just 2 can totally wipe the floor with me.
The fact that you can significantly damage yourself by getting too close while they're just standing still, not attacking is some real bullshit.
DarkHeartedKill
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Seems like they want to punish melee characters for getting too close, for whatever reason.
Probably the monastery still maybe a buckler you could try out both see what gets you better results.
Finished up the Ivory Crown DLC earlier tonight. My thoughts...
Overall, I really enjoyed it. And as far as DLC season passes go, Dark Souls 2 really delivered, imo. I didn't get around to writing my impressions for the first two DLC packs, so I may come back later and do a write-up for those. Just wanted to get my thoughts out about the newest one. Lots of fun!
I enjoyed this area the most out of all three, probably. Sunken King was really great for atmosphere and for overall environment, but I think I like Ivory King for enemy difficulty/variety. Not quite as brutal as the enemies in the Old Iron King dlc, but they require a lot of perfect executions of movements and attacks.
The bosses were pretty fucking incredible. Especially Ivory King. Jesus oh my god. Like.. How epic can we get?! As soon as you fall down the hole, that badass music starts playing and you just know "shit's about to get real", then the crazy battlefield emerges with the Charred Loyce Knights, your own Loyce Knight allies, and your potential phantom buddies. Man oh man, that got me pumped. And the Ivory King himself, he was pretty great. Buddy of mine pointed out that he has lots of the same moves as Pursuer. I noticed this in hindsight, but the fight itself was awesome. Prolly my fav boss from DkS2.
Gotta say though.. FUCK. THE. FRIGID. WASTES. Seriously. Whoever thought that was a bright idea... Just fuck right off.
Damn horses gave me a hell of a time. Eventually made it in there with the two NPC summons and defeated both of the bosses, but jesus, that area is insane.
The bosses were pretty fucking incredible. Especially Ivory King. Jesus oh my god. Like.. How epic can we get?! As soon as you fall down the hole, that badass music starts playing and you just know "shit's about to get real", then the crazy battlefield emerges with the Charred Loyce Knights, your own Loyce Knight allies, and your potential phantom buddies. Man oh man, that got me pumped. And the Ivory King himself, he was pretty great. Buddy of mine pointed out that he has lots of the same moves as Pursuer. I noticed this in hindsight, but the fight itself was awesome. Prolly my fav boss from DkS2.
Gotta say though.. FUCK. THE. FRIGID. WASTES. Seriously. Whoever thought that was a bright idea... Just fuck right off.
Damn horses gave me a hell of a time. Eventually made it in there with the two NPC summons and defeated both of the bosses, but jesus, that area is insane.Overall, I really enjoyed it. And as far as DLC season passes go, Dark Souls 2 really delivered, imo. I didn't get around to writing my impressions for the first two DLC packs, so I may come back later and do a write-up for those. Just wanted to get my thoughts out about the newest one. Lots of fun!
Thats an odd complaint when all the areas in the main game felt disconnected (Earthen Peak to Iron Keep lol)
Cannon Goose
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Equip load also dictates stamina recovery speed. I've found that staying at 60% or under and using the Chloranthy Ring +2 gives you stamina recovery comparable to having your equip load below 40%.
Masquerader
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Ok, so of the 9 bosses, two were completely original. And they were both in the same DLC.
I'm glad I didn't pay for this myself. My poor friend. He regrets it all.
Although to be fair, the final ones were ok. It's just that they were all rehashes.
I'm glad I didn't pay for this myself. My poor friend. He regrets it all.
Although to be fair, the final ones were ok. It's just that they were all rehashes.
What? Im confused. There were two rehashes.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Oh, you sweet summer child... Alonne's gauntlet is a walk in the park compared to the... run in the blizzard.
What are you talking about? There's nothing shitty or cheap like that in Demon's.
I was hoping you weren't sarcastic, but alas... what a pain this place was. Jesus.
It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the boss at the end. I mean at first I was kind of having a blast.
Running in the blizzard, then HOLY SHIT at the giant horse/reindeer thing ambushing me, then running for my life towards the shelter and fighting it there, phew, now what... Okay running again. It was vaguely exhilarating.
Then I finally made it to the fog and thought oh great, a boss. Here we go. But there's TWO of them, are you shitting me? And one of them seems to buff near the end? WTF.
I might retry over and over solo, but the excruciating run in the snow before that just sapped my will, so I summoned the NPCs. Fuck that. I think it'll be the only boss that my Company of Champions toon will give up on. This just isn't fun anymore. Damn you, From. Also, having twice the same boss as the first boss was already done in the Dark Souls 1 DLC, except it wasn't even an actual boss then. Lame.
Then I finally made it to the fog and thought oh great, a boss. Here we go. But there's TWO of them, are you shitting me? And one of them seems to buff near the end? WTF.
I might retry over and over solo, but the excruciating run in the snow before that just sapped my will, so I summoned the NPCs. Fuck that. I think it'll be the only boss that my Company of Champions toon will give up on. This just isn't fun anymore. Damn you, From. Also, having twice the same boss as the first boss was already done in the Dark Souls 1 DLC, except it wasn't even an actual boss then. Lame.
Assuming you mean the women who just sit there doing nothing, they do drop their robe, but it's tattered and ugly. The best winter set is the northwarder cloak, my girl is rocking it right now. <3
Too be fair, the outskirts is way worse for me cause of how my graphics are set up. Its like the blizzard barely turns off (and I tried turning off bloom and that didnt seem to change anything). Super atmospheric but I'm pretty much boned if I ever invade there. It made the less harsh blizzard in the castle amazing looking though.
I keep hearing this complaint a lot, and I'm just not seeing it. Only one boss was a total rehash in the DLCs, and while some others could be seen as being similar to other bosses from the other games, it's not a really fair assessment to call them rehashes/re-used assets.
I do lodge a complaint at From for not breaking from "dude with a sword" being the final-est bosses in the game. More weird creatures plz From.
Perfect!
Masquerader
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Ok, then...
Elana, The Squalid Queen: Nashandra
Sinh, The Slumbering Dragon: Kalameet
Three dudes: Do I really need to explain?
Smelter Demon: Again, must I explain?
Aava, The King's pet: Royal Rat Authority/ Great Wolf Sif
Lud and Zallen: Sanctuary guardians
Burnt Ivory King: Pursuer, with friends
I'm not saying that they're bad bosses (3 are very good), but you can't seriously suggest to me that there was a single completely original boss in the DLCs. Either way, I'm glad that I never bought it.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Elana fights nothing like Nashandra either. And Sinh doesn't fight like Kamaleet either. This list is a huge stretch. There are two rehashed bosses, Smelter 2.0 and Lud & Zallen, and the trio kinda reuses assets even though as an encounter itself it's fairly unique (though shitty).
Masquerader
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Aava is not original. Seriously. Just look at it.
And Elana summons another boss from the base game and Sinh clearly uses the same basic framework as Kalameet. They're both nothing that couldn't be achieved with a decent mod. Sorry, but that's what I think.
How are Lud and Zallen like Sanctuary Guardian and Aava like Sif/Authority? How is that even possible?
Also does basic framework mean "is a dragon" or "is a lady with a direct hit weapon"? Because thats the only way Elana and Sinh are close to Nasandra and Kalameet.
Also does basic framework mean "is a dragon" or "is a lady with a direct hit weapon"? Because thats the only way Elana and Sinh are close to Nasandra and Kalameet.
Haunted
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Well said. I concur with most of this. DS2 absolutely delivered and it's my favourite game this year.Finished up the Ivory Crown DLC earlier tonight. My thoughts...
I enjoyed this area the most out of all three, probably. Sunken King was really great for atmosphere and for overall environment, but I think I like Ivory King for enemy difficulty/variety. Not quite as brutal as the enemies in the Old Iron King dlc, but they require a lot of perfect executions of movements and attacks.
The bosses were pretty fucking incredible. Especially Ivory King. Jesus oh my god. Like.. How epic can we get?! As soon as you fall down the hole, that badass music starts playing and you just know "shit's about to get real", then the crazy battlefield emerges with the Charred Loyce Knights, your own Loyce Knight allies, and your potential phantom buddies. Man oh man, that got me pumped. And the Ivory King himself, he was pretty great. Buddy of mine pointed out that he has lots of the same moves as Pursuer. I noticed this in hindsight, but the fight itself was awesome. Prolly my fav boss from DkS2.
Gotta say though.. FUCK. THE. FRIGID. WASTES. Seriously. Whoever thought that was a bright idea... Just fuck right off.
Overall, I really enjoyed it. And as far as DLC season passes go, Dark Souls 2 really delivered, imo. I didn't get around to writing my impressions for the first two DLC packs, so I may come back later and do a write-up for those. Just wanted to get my thoughts out about the newest one. Lots of fun!
ANOTHER DRAGON!?!
FROMSOFT YOU RIPOFFS
Masquerader, you're missing out on some of the best Souls content the series has ever produced.
edit: the enemy NPC phantoms are so much stronger than my own NPC companions, it's not even funny. I swear, if you could set up a fight between AIs, Jester Thomas and Maldron the Assassin would fucking murder any of the NPC summons.
Haunted
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Isn't Nashandra technically the final boss?
And if you count the DLC dudes with a sword as final bosses (Alonne/Ivory King), then DS1 had Manus as the final boss, not Gwyn.
I was actually disappointed they broke with tradition like that, I love the mano-a-mano fights with important characters of that world. They subverted it perfectly with Vendrick, though, which led to one of the best moments in the game, so I forgive them. Also, Alonne and Ivory King more than make up for Nashandra, imo. Excellent, interesting fights.
And if you count the DLC dudes with a sword as final bosses (Alonne/Ivory King), then DS1 had Manus as the final boss, not Gwyn.
I was actually disappointed they broke with tradition like that, I love the mano-a-mano fights with important characters of that world. They subverted it perfectly with Vendrick, though, which led to one of the best moments in the game, so I forgive them. Also, Alonne and Ivory King more than make up for Nashandra, imo. Excellent, interesting fights.
Yeah, that's why I added the -est, but I coulda been a bit more clear. We got
Alonne/Fumey(whichever you consider the true final boss of Iron King), Ivory King, Allant, Gwyn
They do make sense and they're cool and varied, but I really love From's creature designs and fighting them as bosses instead of dude with sword.
It's a human boss, rehash confirmed!
They've been really creative with NPCs/invaders in this one.
These ice hedgehogs are the worst enemy in the whole game, dammit.
cleared everything else, behind the boss now. What's with that last bonfire behind the locked door? Do I get there after killing the boss?
They've been really creative with NPCs/invaders in this one.
who'd fall for the white phantom though? it' so obviously trap
These ice hedgehogs are the worst enemy in the whole game, dammit.
cleared everything else, behind the boss now. What's with that last bonfire behind the locked door? Do I get there after killing the boss?
you need a key for the door. It's located near the second bonfire before you drop down. So you have to walk there from the first bonfire, unless i missed a ladder in the room.
I knew it was Maldron, but I really wanted to see what he did
He failed his backstab, and then YOLO'd it out into the cave. I love that little scamp, I hope we see him again.
I knew it was Maldron, but I really wanted to see what he did
He failed his backstab, and then YOLO'd it out into the cave. I love that little scamp, I hope we see him again.
Haha that invader... When i first encountered him i got invaded by someone cosplaying as him, so both were just standing there looking at me. A blue sentinel came to my help and then hell broke lose lol. I got killed eventually...
Second encounter with him i just backstabbed him couple of times with my sacred chime hammer.
Is he running to the cave with the
covetous demon and ice hedgehogs if you don't kill him fast enough? What a badass lol
MoogleWizard
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I installed the update and didn't get the key to the DLC. When I try to open the door, it just says "closed". I restarted the game like ten times but still don't have the key in my inventory. Did this happen to anyone else, any idea what I can do?
I knew it was Maldron, but I really wanted to see what he did
He failed his backstab, and then YOLO'd it out into the cave. I love that little scamp, I hope we see him again.
That dude was a proper dickhead. i hope he's rotting in hell right now. :|
Right along side Jester Thomas.
TBH, if they took Sanctuary Guardian and just threw him in, I'd be super happy. He is a great boss. The fight against two of them is the toughest fight in Dark Souls (if you fight straight up). Could you imagine if Lud and Zallen were actually like them? Toughest area followed by toughest boss.
Masquerader
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Well said. I concur with most of this. DS2 absolutely delivered and it's my favourite game this year.
ANOTHER DRAGON!?!
FROMSOFT YOU RIPOFFS
Masquerader, you're missing out on some of the best Souls content the series has ever produced.
edit: the enemy NPC phantoms are so much stronger than my own NPC companions, it's not even funny. I swear, if you could set up a fight between AIs, Jester Thomas and Maldron the Assassin would fucking murder any of the NPC summons.
I didn't miss anything. I actually found it all to be very good (Barring Smelter). It's just that I thought it was creatively lacking in a way.
I knew it was Maldron, but I really wanted to see what he did
Yeah, same thing. Dude is such a lovable asshole. I love it when he bolts away if a situation turns bad for him. One of the best NPCs in the soul series.
The area was designed for them to abuse, though. Water to slow you down and lighting shots that spread in it.
So where/when exactly should be Eleum Loyce? I can't wrap my head around it. In the other two DLCs there is still a sort of teleport but I can place them
. The city itself and miles and miles of snow around it make it almost impossible to place...maybe north from Drangleic Castle? I know the distances are sort of warped but I'd like to make sense of it all.
Another question regarding the lore
I can't wait for some lore discussion about this.
Shulva is most likely under the Gulch, while the Brume Tower is probably high in the mountains above/sorrounding Iron Keep
Another question regarding the lore
why the Chaos was starting to expand..again? Barring the usual "cycle is repeating" stuff (but it didn't seem that the Bed of Chaos was expanding in DaS1), could this event be somehow connected to the Lost Sinner? Maybe in trying to light the First Flame she inadvertedly awoken the Chaos once again
Get summoned to co-op for the boss, the Knights drop their stuff even when summoned, and seem to drop souls more often when you're a phantom. It's a horrible slog either way.
Trying to place the locations of areas in Dark Souls 2 is a fool's errand. It makes no sense. I see no reason why any of the DLC areas are necessarily anywhere close to the areas you teleport from.