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Dark Souls II |OT| The Dark Souls of Dark Souls
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Dodge out of and away from swings of weapons. Always thought it was pretty dumb that I could roll right into a huge ass great sword/club blow like it was not even there. Any weapon for that matter.
-MD-
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His mouth bothers me.
FirstBlood
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Just wanted to chime in that I killed the big guy with the mace at the flame tower or whatever and he never respawned but the rest of the sword guys did.
CountAntonius
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Just had a terrifying thought. In order to get the MSGS I would farm man serpents. On some playthroughs it would take many attempts for the weapon to drop. If monsters no longer spawn and the weapon didn't drop you are forced into another NG+?
Chance Hale
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Uiki
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No. Not all enemies stop spawning. At least seems that way..
Well people have said you can burn an item at a bonfire to make all the enemies respawn, but stronger. It would progressively become harder and harder to farm, but it doesn't sound like you would screw yourself out of a drop. Of course this assumes that item is easy to acquire.
I still don't like the idea though. I hope there is some reason that justifies it, but man it sounds bad when you imagine a system like that in Demons Souls or Dark Souls 1.
I read this part quick I thought you got a job in real life harvesting man-size snakes to get money to buy MGS4 and was really confused on many levels.
Especially one who makes videos about Dark Souls lore. I was shocked to find out that he's a handsome man.
there is an usable item that lets you respawn all minions in that area again for another 15 kills (
bosses as well
(bosses aswell, which also drop the ng+/ng++ drops)
I was skeptical of enemies disappearing at first, but that does sound like a pretty awesome way to handle it.
Bwahaha!
The new system is already making me be way more careful with my retrievals. Souls are suddenly more valuable now. Still don't like the empty area's though.
Does 15 feel pretty low at all? I can imagine it could make the area pretty lonely and the march to a boss pretty easy.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
Laughed so hard
Damn. He's a handsome dude.
WOW did not know that
damn...might to it monday, it would look hilarious doing so but whatever
I refuse to believe that you can be just absolutely "stuck". There has to be somethings being overlooked since it's a new game and people don't know everything about it yet. Some other location or item or system or something being missed or overlooked to prevent or avoid this kind of thing. FROM has been making great games a long time and them or anyone with a brain would think about the decision of setting a respawn limit and all the consequences of that if people do hit it. That's like the first thing they would have to thought about when putting that system into the game.
And if it's a absolute fact that you can 100% totally clear an entire area, hell the entire game from these reports, from bonfire to boss with no other options, maybe it's just a case of FROM saying yo if you want to proceed you have free runs to the boss go bash you head against it until you figure it out, overcome it, and git gud son. I don't know what to believe anymore. What is fact or hyperbole here now?
And if it's a absolute fact that you can 100% totally clear an entire area, hell the entire game from these reports, from bonfire to boss with no other options, maybe it's just a case of FROM saying yo if you want to proceed you have free runs to the boss go bash you head against it until you figure it out, overcome it, and git gud son. I don't know what to believe anymore. What is fact or hyperbole here now?
Try it for yourself. Fire up DkS1, pick a bonfire, kill every single enemy near it, rest at bonfire, repeat 14 more times.
Watching the stream I honestly don't think this will be a big deal at all unless you seriously plan to grind through everything in this game. I only saw the phenomenon occur once over almost 60 hours of a guy's stream for some very low level trash mobs.
Boss spoiler:
I don't know if I'll have to revisit a lot of area's, so it's not a big problem right now. Only the enemies very close to bonfires are starting to disappear. But I'm only talking about 1 or 2 enemies per area right now.
Just beat Dragonrider without him even touching me. Felt great, because other bosses trounced me a few times.
I don't know if I'll have to revisit a lot of area's, so it's not a big problem right now. Only the enemies very close to bonfires are starting to disappear. But I'm only talking about 1 or 2 enemies per area right now.
AKingNamedPaul
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27 hours...27 hours....27 hours...
I'm pretty sure you're missing something. The boss you're at right now isn't your only option. Plus,
if you're complaining about health reduction to -50%,
there's a ring you might've missed as well.
my impressions of accessibility and graphics of the game with no spoilers after 4 hours of playing it
for people wondering if the game is easier due to From making it accessible.. i didnt find the game easier at all.. i died around 40 times till i reached the first boss not counting deaths during the boss fight granted the servers are still down on xbox so i didnt try playing online yet maybe its easier once you go online but playing solo it is as good and punishing as the demons and dark souls 1
and graphically it looks decent for a 360/ps3 game despite the downgrade concerns..
hopefully the servers will be reliable for this game.
for people wondering if the game is easier due to From making it accessible.. i didnt find the game easier at all.. i died around 40 times till i reached the first boss not counting deaths during the boss fight granted the servers are still down on xbox so i didnt try playing online yet maybe its easier once you go online but playing solo it is as good and punishing as the demons and dark souls 1
and graphically it looks decent for a 360/ps3 game despite the downgrade concerns..
hopefully the servers will be reliable for this game.
CountAntonius
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How do dedicated servers run on these games? Are they run by Namco? Or on Xbox, Steam, psn servers? Not sure I understand.
XANDER CAGE
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Enemies disappeared from an area I was exploring felt very strange. It's pretty easy to retrieve/die 15 times when you're exploring a new area or trying out a build.
Plus, I didn't actually know about the mechanic until it happened.
isn't it 27 hours?
CountAntonius
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I think it's just fear. People really love the series and man did they make some huge changes. I'm pretty apprehensive myself but will wait before I make any proclamations. From is one ballsy developer I'll say that much.
super-famicom
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For all the guys posting spoilers: I know you're excited about the game, but please discuss spoilers in the spoiler thread. A lot of us are on media blackout for this game.
Edit: Dark Souls 2 Spoiler Thread
Edit: Dark Souls 2 Spoiler Thread
There is no "dedicated server" in the common sense that it hosts all the matches. It's a match making server that handles the communication between players. It's actually not very demanding. Dark Souls I used a "group p2p" system like torrents, where you communicate between players directly. That is what yielded so many "couldn't summon/invade".
AlimNassor
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At least now DSP won't be able to "grind" for hours because the game is too hard. He complained the game was too hard and he didn't have time to learn the game system, and yet he spent hours grinding instead of gitn gud.
Morrigan Stark
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No it's not. The dungeon bonfire is way faster and has hardly any enemies. I retried Manus about 30 times on SL 1, so I know this area really well.
Just hope wherever you go isn't sold out of Black Armor editions, but yeah it's awesome.
I loved that pre-ordering Dark Souls 1 got you the LE, even though they eventually cut it down a little.
CountAntonius
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Thanks that's very interesting and totally different from how it thought it was handled. So did Demon Souls have the same kind of servers that this game will have? Was it better for connecting and PvP?
Morrigan Stark
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Very much so.
If you already pre-ordered a while back; the Black Armor edition is listed in their systems as the Day One edition, and the whole time it's been a completely separate sku from the regular launch day edition, just at the same price. When I originally pre-ordered a few months ago my friend at Gamestop actually asked me which one I wanted, and said that because they were separate skus it was possible for someone to pre-order the game but just a regular version/case. Obviously there is no reason anyone sane would do that, but it's a separate listing and at least my Gamestop stopped taking Day One edition pre-orders like a month ago.
tl;dr - If you pre-ordered at Gamestop, make sure your receipt says Day One Edition, if it does you're good.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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Yeah I feel like I'm gonna explode. I go back and forth from giddy excitement at the thought of more souls to all this worrying about
What if the movement is bad compared to DS?
What if the PvP isn't as good?
What if it rewards equipment more than skill too much, to the point you can't do naked/SL1 runs anymore?
What if they change it so much to make regular people like it that it ends up just feeling like other video games?
Dark Souls was real special for me, the kind of game I spent an embarrassing amount of time on. I got this sinking feeling I can't shake that even if DS2 is good, it'll be I the kind of game I beat and then am bored with, instead of something real special I hang around replaying and pvping in for years. I have no strong logical basis for this feeling! Just fear and all my bad experiences with sequels over the years.
Spirit Icana
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I just finished watching up to chapter 8. This was pretty awesome. It got better as it went along.
XANDER CAGE
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For what it's worth, I've gotten a bit further into the game and I could just be getting used to the changes, but I'm definitely having more fun.
Yeah Demon Souls used match making servers as well (like most online games do btw). I haven't faced ANY error message ever when I played Demon Souls when it was released. So yeah, it was flawless. I could co-op with my friend the whole time, and we'd see each other's signs immediately.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
CountAntonius
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Very exciting. I played Dark Souls on 360 and thought it was ok with the number of invasions and stuff. Since moving to PC it's been aggravating. I love the game but I can go 20 minutes without being invaded or having a successful invasion. The thought of having a souls game on PC running on Steam and getting a good amount of PvP in is as exciting as getting a new Souls game to me.
AKingNamedPaul
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So my cousin who got me into the souls games back with demons and who I finished dark souls with on the same day just texted and told me he had ds2 per-ordered but hadn't heard anything about the changes.
I pretty much unleashed all my built up hype in text form and by the time I was done I had no idea what just happened. He is now informed and I am looking forward to griefing him as much as the game will allow me to.
26 hours.
I pretty much unleashed all my built up hype in text form and by the time I was done I had no idea what just happened. He is now informed and I am looking forward to griefing him as much as the game will allow me to.
26 hours.
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