Dark Souls II |OT| The Dark Souls of Dark Souls

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Kworn said:
Well I am fucked then...wlaking around with 50% health will be the norm for me then, brilliant.
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ttocs said:
Yeah, that's my biggest fear for this game.
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1. It's not that bad
2.
You can restore humanity whenever you want without a bonfire as long as you have a human effigy. You can restore humanity RIGHT before a boss door now so you dont have to worry about dying and losing your humanity on the way to the boss
3.
You can find a ring that reduces the loss from 50% to 25%. You can get it at the beginning of the game if you know where it is.
 
Soriku said:
From what I'm hearing, the game seems more open than Dark Souls 1 from the beginning?

When I played the first game I had a general idea of how I should proceed due to looking at guides. Think I'm definitely gonna try to figure much of it out without a guide.
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Definitely more open. Nothing like going through one of these games for the first time not knowing what's coming!

I was stuck for a WHILE thinking there was no where else to go, beating my head against a boss
(The Lost Sinner)
. Turns out I missed a path near the beginning
from Majula. There's stairs that go down to ankle high water; you can raise the door by examining a ring hanging from the wall, which took me forever to find.
.

There was another example a bit later on where I accidentally found a whole set of branching paths by accident...


I feel like I haven't been going in completely the "intended" order, which is fine, and actually what I prefer; I'm really happy the game still lets you do this.

georly said:
Question about str and str weapons. If a weapon requires 20 str, but i only have 19, does 2h it make it ok, or do i still need 20 to equip it? It still has the 'X' on it even if i 2 h it below the str requirement.
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Strange, I was using the great club for a long time before I had the STR for it. The X went away for me while two handing and I used it fine, just like DS1. But the message doesn't say you can use it effectively two handed like DS does. Perhaps you don't have the dexterity for the weapon you want to equip?
 
:( I think that as much as I want Dark Souls 2, I'm going to hold off until May. If I get it now it'll just tempted me to play it all day and with work and school I can't afford that. I also have Bravely Default that I'm going through right now.
 
VanillaCakeIsBurning said:
If there's really no way to respawn enemies
without bringing them back in NG form
then my plan to farm and buy tons of arrows is screwed.
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It does seem like it's kind of hard to really stock up on consumables this time around. I haven't even found a blacksmith that sells unlimited arrows. I've been using the crossbow pretty much just with bolts I found in the world using it only to pull enemies and kill weaker ones. Not sure the best way to buy them.

You can probably find a spot further away from the bonfire that you haven't exhausted. It does take a while for enemies to dissapear, so you can still farm somewhat, but it keeps you in check.

Shengar said:
There is an item that enable you to respawn enemies as I've heard. Its limited though, so use it wisely.
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From what I understand this revives the boss as well (if used next to the boss bonfire) and puts all enemies in the next NG+ cycle. In 45 hours I only have two of these items.
 
super-famicom said:
This is the worst way to post spoilers. No one will know what it is until they click on it, then they read something they wish they hadn't.
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Frankly i find it better than.

"OMG I was in
your mom's room
, when all of the sudden
your dad
appeared out of nowhere and one shot me with a
billy club
. Next time im gonna bring a
baseball bat
and break his
legs.
"

That shit is annoying.
 
Sullichin said:
Strange, I was using the great club for a long time before I had the STR for it. The X went away for me while two handing and I used it fine, just like DS1. But the message doesn't say you can use it effectively two handed like DS does. Perhaps you don't have the dexterity for the weapon you want to equip?
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You might be right, maybe i was looking for the message. I had the dex for sure. Also, not having the str doesn't seem to affect the swing animations, is that correct? It only gives it negative stats?
 
georly said:
You might be right, maybe i was looking for the message. I had the dex for sure. Also, not having the str doesn't seem to affect the swing animations, is that correct? It only gives it negative stats?
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Yeah, you can actually swing around a sword you can't wield and test out its move set now. I think it brings your base damage to 0. But before I had the STR to one hand, I accidentally swung the club one handed a few times and it wasn't nearly the death sentence that making that mistake would be in Dark Souls.
 
Shengar said:
There is an item that enable you to respawn enemies as I've heard. Its limited though, so use it wisely.
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Someone in the review thread said that apparently that item does bring enemies back but in their NG difficulty forms which wouldn't be worth it for farming I think, as I would probably get destroyed even more with normal gear.

Sullichin said:
It does seem like it's kind of hard to really stock up on consumables this time around. I haven't even found a blacksmith that sells unlimited arrows. I've been using the crossbow pretty much just with bolts I found in the world using it only to pull enemies and kill weaker ones. Not sure the best way to buy them.

You can probably find a spot further away from the bonfire that you haven't exhausted. It does take a while for enemies to dissapear, so you can still farm somewhat, but it keeps you in check.



From what I understand this revives the boss as well (if used next to the boss bonfire) and puts all enemies in the next NG+ cycle. In 45 hours I only have two of these items.
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I guess it's something I'll have to adjust to.

Sir Griffith said:
Listening to podcasts is helping a lot.
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That's not an option for me unfortunately. I'm just going to try and not think of the time at all. :p
 
Soriku said:
Can anyone spoil where to get this? It's one thing I actually want to know lol.
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It's in
Heide's Tower of Flame on the way to the Cathedral of Blue
You can get to that first area from Majula (I spoiled that a few posts above, lol)

I definitely got this item way later in the game than I'd have liked!
 
Sullichin said:
From what I understand this revives the boss as well (if used next to the boss bonfire) and puts all enemies in the next NG+ cycle. In 45 hours I only have two of these items.
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Is that mean when you used the item, finish the game, and go to NG+, the enemy in that said area will be NG++ instead?
 
Chitown B said:
"The Pyromancer was Dark Souls’ easiest starting class, but there’s no equivalent here; we didn’t even find a Flame until around halfway through. Sorcery’s been nerfed, too, with a hefty stamina cost for every spell cast."

Seems odd since watching the video where all the guys were saying they would choose magic.
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If it's just a stamina cost instead of limited number of uses between bonfires, then that would be the opposite for me. Sorcery that requires just stamina management is totally viable.
 
Sullichin said:
It's in
Heide's Tower of Flame on the way to the Cathedral of Blue
You can get to that first area from Majula (I spoiled that a few posts above, lol)

I definitely got this item way later in the game than I'd have liked!
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georly said:
Sure!

When you first make it to majula, there is a sewer-looking cave behind the building with the cat NPC in it. Go in there, pull a ring-lever on a wall to open the gat and proceed to heide. Killing some of the stone giants with shields will reveal switches that come out of the ground. The one you want to kill is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way at the top left next to the GIANT drawbridge. Once you kill him he reveals a switch that will lower the drawbridge. The giants are super slow, so you can run past all of them and just kill him. If you dont kill him fast enough the other ones will catch up, but you can easily run away from them. Once the drawbridge lowers, it's at the top. There is a boss behind that fog gate, so beware.
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Cool, thanks.
 
Soriku said:
Can anyone spoil where to get this? It's one thing I actually want to know lol.
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Sure!

When you first make it to majula, there is a sewer-looking cave behind the building with the cat NPC in it. Go in there, pull a ring-lever on a wall to open the gat and proceed to heide. Killing some of the stone giants with shields will reveal switches that come out of the ground. The one you want to kill is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way at the top left next to the GIANT drawbridge. Once you kill him he reveals a switch that will lower the drawbridge. The giants are super slow, so you can run past all of them and just kill him. If you dont kill him fast enough the other ones will catch up, but you can easily run away from them. Once the drawbridge lowers, it's at the top. There is a boss behind that fog gate, so beware.

Hey...hey you casuls


Where are the online soapstones at?
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Once you meet pate, talk to him. Go through the gate, which shuts on your, make it out alive, then talk to him again, over, and over.
 
En-ou said:
we will know on april 25. i do agree: dark souls was phenomenal in 3D. cannot wait. once you go 3D you cannot go back, everything seems so flat and lifeless afterwards.
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Wait.... Dark Souls supported 3d Vision glasses?

HOW DO I SET THAT UP!?!?!? I never got it to work correctly with the Durante fixes.
 
Gorillaz said:
Lmao it is DEFINITELY more open starting out then DS1 was
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Is it? I thought there are only
two real ways, one to forest of giants, the other to heide's tower. The pit is inaccessible until you buy the cat ring or have enough health to survive the fall, which means we can't really count that as a viable path starting out, and the secondary path down the staircase next to cat house requires you to beat Heide's tower first to get the miracle girl to move the contraption.
 
Sullichin said:
What. Strength is AMAZING in this game. Tons of poise damage, 100% (!) str increase when two handing, better move sets than the first game. Been using the Great Club. It's really good. That 2H R2-> R2 is amazing for bosses.
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Do you recommended warrior or knight as a starting class ?
 
place white soapstone sign, someone tries to summon me, failed for some reason, now I can't place signs until I relog. rinse repeat.

thought the online would work better than last time!
 
Antiwhippy said:
It's both.

Though I believe that there's an item that allows you to restore charges.
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I thought they said magic was supposed to be better this time. :\

I guess the real problem I had with it in the first Dark Souls is it felt so nerfed compared to pyromancy, even with way more uses on a lot of spells. I guess if the power (and variety) is improved, the number of uses won't matter too much.

Jobbs said:
place white soapstone sign, someone tries to summon me, failed for some reason, now I can't place signs until I relog. rinse repeat.

thought the online would work better than last time!
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People made that mistaken assumption, I think, because they were thinking of a game where Atlus is in charge of the servers...
 
Listonosh said:
Is it? I thought there are only
two real ways, one to forest of giants, the other to heide's tower. The pit is inaccessible until you buy the cat ring or have enough health to survive the fall, which means we can't really count that as a viable path starting out, and the secondary path down the staircase next to cat house requires you to beat Heide's tower first to get the miracle girl to move the contraption.
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Yeah, seems there are two, and both of those paths seem to meet up at the ............ (more spoilers ahead)........................................................................................................................................................ ................................................................................. .......................................dssfdsffs seapoifif sdfsajk;ua fsa prison area fsd fsadfsadf ds sffasdfasd so it's more like a circle jdsfka;jisad;lakfj; skkkdfileljkadfhui
 
stupei said:
I thought they said magic was supposed to be better this time. :\

I guess the real problem I had with it in the first Dark Souls is it felt so nerfed compared to pyromancy, even with way more uses on a lot of spells. I guess if the power (and variety) is improved, the number of uses won't matter too much.
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I could be wrong, but I believe pyromancy is pretty much rolled into sorcery already anyway. No more scaling just based on how much you've upgraded the glove I believe. I think it scales with INT and FTH now.

I could be wrong though.
 
Already asked this before, but might as well try again. Will EU have a day 1 digital download on 360? Nobody seems to know and I can't find anything online about it :(
 
Antiwhippy said:
I could be wrong, but I believe pyromancy is pretty much rolled into sorcery already anyway. No more scaling just based on how much you've upgraded the glove I believe. I think it scales with INT and FTH now.

I could be wrong though.
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No, I think you're right about that. Plus there's a third branch of magic now, not counting faith, though I'm unclear on whether or not it requires its own unique item to cast.

Kind of tempted to start a second character as sorcerer just to mess around with it, but I'm not sure how much of that is idle speculation to pass the time while I'm stuck at work when I'd rather be playing.
 
The perfect Dark said:
Yep, it works but it seems no one has found the item yet, lol.
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I found the item, you need to
talk to Mild-Mannered Pate after you return from the lock door in Forest of Fallen Giants, and talk 3 o 4 times like Solaire in DS1 and he given to you, then you can summon Pate when you fight the boss The Last Giant
 
stupei said:
I thought they said magic was supposed to be better this time. :\

I guess the real problem I had with it in the first Dark Souls is it felt so nerfed compared to pyromancy, even with way more uses on a lot of spells. I guess if the power (and variety) is improved, the number of uses won't matter too much.
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ahh, someone skipped AotA

I can't figure out how to level in this game
 
skyboss said:
I found the item, you need to
talk to Mild-Mannered Pate after you return from the lock door in Forest of Fallen Giants, and talk 3 o 4 times like Solaire in DS1 and he given to you, then you can summon Pate when you fight the boss The Last Giant
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Thanks got it! But how
can you summon him
?
 
Spent half an hour with Amazon customer support yesterday ending in them "guaranteeing" I'd have the game on my doorstep today

....it hasn't even shipped yet.

amazon is fucking up this launch pretty bad
 
Hey guys, I'm not sure if this has been answered, but how do you get the "black armor DLC" weapons/shields?? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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