Difference is that you win from killing either all phantoms or the host. With red invasions you always need to kill the host.
Nope you only get rewards for killing the host or other phantoms. It is not a coop covenant in anyway.
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Difference is that you win from killing either all phantoms or the host. With red invasions you always need to kill the host.
Nope you only get rewards for killing the host or other phantoms. It is not a coop covenant in anyway.
What's the best way to bump your damage in the early game? At the Abyss Watcher's now and keep switching between +3 Long Sword, Bastard and Zweihander but people summoning me seem to do a bit more damage. Pick one and infuse it (fire/raw?) or do I start getting more large shards soon?
Conrad Link
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I'm having people summon me then just stand there, its really confusing lol. Do they want me to help them do something or just fight 1V1?
neoism
Member
lol the parry timing in this looks werid no wonder i suck.... still cant get it down..
eot
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You can definitely find a lot of large shards before that fight.
usp84
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Anor Londo bonfire the first two Silver Knights.I never killed the third one because he takes too much time to kill and it takes too long to return to the bonfire after.
Having 448 luck i problably got the 25 i needed in 3 hours or so
Every boss is save to kill because you get asked if you want to go into NG+.
Simple, Dark Sword. Use a heavy gem and level up your strength. Thank me later. The last three bosses of the game went down like flies for me.
When that scene started I thought, "This isn't all just for the ladder, is it?" and sure enough, it was.
That is not the last boss. And when you defeat the last boss you don't automatically go to NG+. After the credits you're given the choice to go to NG+ or you can keep exploring and initiate NG+ from the shrine bonfire.
Grats and holy crap. I do not have the fortitude to even imagine what a SL1 run must look like in DS3. It was definitely easier in the older games, I can tell that much just from seeing how health and tracking ranges of enemies have changed.Finally beatat SL1 earliertwin princeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnz_l0kniaI Now onto bloody
...oceiros
RandomSeed
Member
Heh, I took down A
so fast that it didn't even get an
off, but then did just before my last swing hit, killing me after I killed it. That's some revenge right there.
ldrich
arrow barrage
Sure I heard one of them speedrunners say that under ~30% gave you some ultimate roll or whatever he called it.
You lose iframes at 30%, 50% and 70% (70% is fat roll) equip weight. Not an "ultimate" roll at 30% or less, just more iframes. The iframe ring can contribute even more. If you go light you can essentially get a roll that's probably as invulnerable, if not more, than the quickstep in Bloodborne, but you sacrifice most of your defense to do it.
Defense is definitely a viable option as well - turtle builds are strong in PvP and PvE and can trivialize a lot of boss fights.
yeah, he has a lot of very slow attacks, that are kinda hard to parry.
Opus Angelorum
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Always, always have a Homeward Bone equipped.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Quick question do enemies scale to be more difficult with your level? Currently I'm level 45 and have sharp +5 sellswords just got to
. I feel like I need to go farm some more levels and upgrades because these
are washing me.
Irithyll of the Boreal Valley
pontiff knights
MixedBeverage
Member
What do you guys think about the recommended soul levels for matchmaking on the wiki?
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended Level+by+Location
I've got about 100k souls on the floor in the D
boss room, and I'm wondering if I should just leave them. Don't want to level my character to the point where I can't sunbro anymore. The NG+ columns are blank, and I'm still in NG, so not sure what to expect there.
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended Level+by+Location
I've got about 100k souls on the floor in the D
ancer
Wow you got super lucky with those drops.
test_account
XP-39C²
Is the Dark Sword noticeably better than the Long Sword when it comes to damage? I see that the Dark Sword has 115 base damage while the Long Sword has 110. The Dark Sword also has some better gard absorption.
No.
They scale based on NG or NG+ or NG++, etc. (essentially, their levels are static) Enemies gain extra HP if helper phantoms come in, as do bosses.
If enemies are kicking your butt, it's either your level is low, or your build needs more VGR (VGR is basically your trade-off stat - do you want more survivability or more damage - because VGR is survivability - pretty much every other stat is damage).
test_account
XP-39C²
I'm level 81 (still NG) and get summoned very easy for the later bosses.
Finally beatat SL1 earliertwin princes...oceiros
Awesome fight, congrats on getting him.
usp84
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Yeah sometimes i got two drops from them.But i lost my luck farming Vertebre shackles.Took me more time for less items.At least i need fewer because of a few succesful invasions
test_account
XP-39C²
Yeah, if you get disconnected while playing online (even if you play by yourself, you're still online if you can see messages and summon signs), you get thrown to the main menu. Gotta suck getting disconnected on a boss though, especially if you're about to make it :\
This is why I'm still convinced that Item Discovery just increases quality/quantity of items, not chance of actually finding items. But yeah, I do not know how the algorithm works, just conjecture at this point.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Ok thank you. I'm not around my ps4 right now but I've been pumping levels in only Dex, End, Vigr, and some in STR. I know I'm 31 Dex (with ring), i think 22 VGR, 22 END, 16 STR. The rest are at starting level for mercenary except maybe VIT which I might have put a few points in.
I'm going to run through all of the starting zones again and dump as many levels as I can in VGR. I've never been great at souls games (haven't been able to finish any in the series) the gameplay of 3 feels really good and is the one I've enjoyed playing the most so I'm hoping I'm able to finish this one.
The
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knights
hydrophilic attack
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Not quite. As you say yourself, you can win by killing all other phantoms, including invaders. So if a host summons you and has no other phantoms with him, you can help him out until someone invades, and then win by helping the host kill the invader
So cleared NG+ and got every trophy aside from All Rings and one ending one, which takes a NG++ clear.
I'm up to level 185 now and no matter what weapons I try, I keep going back to the S
Straight Sword. I love my BK Greataxe, but it's not the same as DS1's (though much better than DS2's), and the SSS just gives me more consistent results. Plus I can swing it 9 freaking times at 40 Endurance with one of the Rings. And with weapon buff spells + the weapon's self buff the AR on it gets nearly as high as my BK Greataxe. It gets up to like 620 something when buffed for me Vs 695 BKG which only gets 4 swings.
I tried a bunch of other weapons too, but none really clicked. I even made the
which requires combing two boss soul weapons and respec'd to 40 in all 4 of Str/Dex/Int/Faith to see how the scaling was on it. Sadly, the scaling was god awful and the weapon just felt meh.
Before playing with Weapon Buffs (which don't work on a lot of stuff like most Boss Soul weapons), I only had the base 10 Attunement and 16 faith so I could equip stuff, was rocking 70 Vit and full Havel's + Havel's shield. Sadly had to cut my Vit down when I respec'd to take advantage of buffs.
Rocking 40 Vig, 35 Att, 40 End, 32 Vit, 40 Str, 40 Dex, 10 Int, 30 Faith, 7 Luck.
Probably going to end up with Vit near 70 again. Not sure if I want to take Faith to 40 for full buff scaling and may shave off 5 Attunement, since I probably don't need that much FP for just buffing and 30 gives 5 slots, which covers all the weapon buffs I want. I should get enough naturally just killing everything in NG++ to get that high. That would put me at 218-233 depending on how far I go (33-48 more levels).
I'd also like to do a build for A
, but that requires Luck on top of all of that, which is an extra 33-92 levels and it actually has semi-useful scaling all the way to 99. I don't think I'll get that many outside of some crazy farming or exploiting, which I don't want to do. Maybe if the future DLC is substantial enough I'll do it.
I'm up to level 185 now and no matter what weapons I try, I keep going back to the S
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I tried a bunch of other weapons too, but none really clicked. I even made the
Twin Princes' Greatsword
Before playing with Weapon Buffs (which don't work on a lot of stuff like most Boss Soul weapons), I only had the base 10 Attunement and 16 faith so I could equip stuff, was rocking 70 Vit and full Havel's + Havel's shield. Sadly had to cut my Vit down when I respec'd to take advantage of buffs.
Rocking 40 Vig, 35 Att, 40 End, 32 Vit, 40 Str, 40 Dex, 10 Int, 30 Faith, 7 Luck.
Probably going to end up with Vit near 70 again. Not sure if I want to take Faith to 40 for full buff scaling and may shave off 5 Attunement, since I probably don't need that much FP for just buffing and 30 gives 5 slots, which covers all the weapon buffs I want. I should get enough naturally just killing everything in NG++ to get that high. That would put me at 218-233 depending on how far I go (33-48 more levels).
I'd also like to do a build for A
nri's Straight Sword
I wouldn't recommend going over 30 VGR in New Game. To be honest those stats look good for where you are in the game. You might want to get a few levels to get a bit more VGR (or your weapon's primary damage stat) but otherwise a good strategy against the Knights themselves is to lure them out one-by-one. Use throwing knives or kukri to facilitate pulls. They're structured in packs on purpose but for pretty much any encounter in Dark Souls, if you can get the enemy alone, they're pretty manageable (and as with pretty much all enemies, are susceptible to circle-strafing).
You can also just run past them if you're feeling particularly ballsy. It's what I did after getting stuck on them for a while. There aren't a ton of them, but there are definitely enough to cause trouble.
RandomSeed
Member
Is Sirris's audio in later dialogs screwed up for everyone? Going by subtitles, some of the lines are cut in half.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Their combos really are insane. I don't parry so my 100% shield doesn't hold up at all and timing rolls has been difficult for me. Last night I was finally able to get through them and make it to that second bonfire but damn was it frustrating.
Thank you for the tips I'll just end up grinding VGR to around 25ish for now. I'm a bow user and I have longbow upgraded a couple times so I've been pulling them out that way. They have been the only regular enemies I've had consistent trouble with so far.
Important part being summoned. If you invade as purple guy you can't harm enemies, only host and summons.
The fast chugging speed for the estus ruins PvP for me.
Complain all you will about the ADP stat in DkS2, at least I had a chance of cancelling someone's health gain when they invaded me and were sloppy. Now, unless you have throwing knives equipped or are willing to waste the (very limited) regen blocking charms, most fights with invaders just degenerate into who runs out of Estus first.
Either slow that sh*t down, or don't allow invaders to heal. If someone makes constant mistakes, it should be punished. They shouldn't be able to win the fight by being sloppy and then catching a few lucky hits when I've been out-playing them the whole time and just got f*cking bored towards the end and stopped paying attention because things are dragging.
Complain all you will about the ADP stat in DkS2, at least I had a chance of cancelling someone's health gain when they invaded me and were sloppy. Now, unless you have throwing knives equipped or are willing to waste the (very limited) regen blocking charms, most fights with invaders just degenerate into who runs out of Estus first.
Either slow that sh*t down, or don't allow invaders to heal. If someone makes constant mistakes, it should be punished. They shouldn't be able to win the fight by being sloppy and then catching a few lucky hits when I've been out-playing them the whole time and just got f*cking bored towards the end and stopped paying attention because things are dragging.
bargeparty
Member
Anri is a woman? I swear in my game Anri sounds like a guy. I'm legit confused.
I'm rocking the Long Sword and its the closest to the swag sword from DS1. There's also the Lothric Sword but the reach is shorter and it takes more stamina per swing.
Anri's sex is the opposite of yours. Anri is male for female characters and female for males.
Dark Sword is arguably the best straight sword in the game. And it is baller as shit. Gets A scaling in Strength with a heavy gem.
So, I'm at
and I've been using Irithyll Straight Sword up till now- I'm having a hard time parting with its speed and style, but at this point it feels super underpowered and I can't reach the 8 additional twinkling titanite needed to upgrade it further.
What weapon would you guys suggest I move to??
Lothric Castle
What weapon would you guys suggest I move to??
Yea, I know that but he's asking about the covenant. You don't have to kill the host but you can if you want the vertebrae for the ranks.
Also, fuck this farming. I had better luck with Concords over Shackles so far.
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