Fimbulvetr
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Amir0x said:
What?
This game wouldn't have been all that great without all the Zelda-ness. :/
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DARKSIDERS |OT| More like Zelda than God of War
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What?
This game wouldn't have been all that great without all the Zelda-ness. :/
Think Im on the last bit now after 15hours. Great game but its got worse since the fantastic 1st dungeon for me. The fecking portal levels where awful. Its also too bloody easy on Apoc coming from playing it after Bayonetta.
I think it could have been like Batman and a GOTY contender but all that pratting about with the portals have shoved it down to a high 7/10 for me now. Its not going to have any replay value as Id rather shove a week old contact lens in my eye whats had shite on it than play them again :lol
If they want to learn from it then no more fecking portals!
I think it could have been like Batman and a GOTY contender but all that pratting about with the portals have shoved it down to a high 7/10 for me now. Its not going to have any replay value as Id rather shove a week old contact lens in my eye whats had shite on it than play them again :lol
If they want to learn from it then no more fecking portals!
I don't know if it's because I was tired yesterday or what, but the Black Throne was kicking my ass horribly. That one battle with the red angels, witch bitches with blades and the huge fucking monster at the bridge wiped the floor with my ass for more than an hour. I've never had that much difficulty with the combat until now. Though, I'm still having a lot of fun. Hopefully I'll be done with the game some time this week.
Neuromancer
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The beams
Redirect the beams
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Just Platinumed this game, was a fun game overall, a solid 9 from me
I somehow with my love for searching for treasures (thanks Uncharted), by the end of the game I was missing only 2 life and 3 wrath shards, got them with Legendary enhancement, was fun, just backtracking multiple times to the same area got a little annoying
(Some chests you couldn't get due to in the beginning cause you needed a new ability, get new ability, get chest, just to realize oh hey another chest close by...but need another new ability needed just to reach it + have to go through said dungeon over again)
Here are some tricks to use to make the game easier:
Always grind to have your demon mode available at all times, it can be a lifesaver against some baddies, even bosses
(if you dont have enhancements to get you chaos through all weapons just use sword till you have the L1 +R2 mode flashing, then just use it as a back up)
The ride 100 miles on Ruin trophy/achievement, as others have stated, rubber band > open area (Ashlands, Stygian, big ass worm boss)> 2 hours at least (I timed it, started @ 8:55 AM, got trophy @ 10:37AM)
Kill 150 on horse back, best place is the first area, like 10-15 zombies, 1-2 hits per kill, couple of demons spawn too, just rinse and repeat
Best place to level up weapons is Iron Canopy before fighting the last boss, the baby spiders near the walls keep respawning infinitely, I got my tremor gauntlets from level 1 to 4 with-in 45 minutes + 5-7000 souls to boot
I even leveled up my sword to make it powerful + extra souls, when I was done I had all 3 weapons @ level 4 with 30,000 souls
(Even though you don't need to level the sword to 4, due to the newer sword you get at the end of the game which is level 4 already, it helps getting souls, + if you need the 150 kills on horseback a lvl 4 Chaoseater is beastly, can take out huge demons after only 3-4 hits)
I somehow with my love for searching for treasures (thanks Uncharted), by the end of the game I was missing only 2 life and 3 wrath shards, got them with Legendary enhancement, was fun, just backtracking multiple times to the same area got a little annoying
(Some chests you couldn't get due to in the beginning cause you needed a new ability, get new ability, get chest, just to realize oh hey another chest close by...but need another new ability needed just to reach it + have to go through said dungeon over again)
Here are some tricks to use to make the game easier:
Always grind to have your demon mode available at all times, it can be a lifesaver against some baddies, even bosses
(if you dont have enhancements to get you chaos through all weapons just use sword till you have the L1 +R2 mode flashing, then just use it as a back up)
The ride 100 miles on Ruin trophy/achievement, as others have stated, rubber band > open area (Ashlands, Stygian, big ass worm boss)> 2 hours at least (I timed it, started @ 8:55 AM, got trophy @ 10:37AM)
Kill 150 on horse back, best place is the first area, like 10-15 zombies, 1-2 hits per kill, couple of demons spawn too, just rinse and repeat
Best place to level up weapons is Iron Canopy before fighting the last boss, the baby spiders near the walls keep respawning infinitely, I got my tremor gauntlets from level 1 to 4 with-in 45 minutes + 5-7000 souls to boot
I even leveled up my sword to make it powerful + extra souls, when I was done I had all 3 weapons @ level 4 with 30,000 souls
(Even though you don't need to level the sword to 4, due to the newer sword you get at the end of the game which is level 4 already, it helps getting souls, + if you need the 150 kills on horseback a lvl 4 Chaoseater is beastly, can take out huge demons after only 3-4 hits)
to make the last boss hella' easy on Apocalyptic, have Abysmal armor + if you have extra souls level ^ Stoneskin (mine was lvl 3), when you fight the destroyer, the 2nd battle human form, just use it over and over, it makes you almost go into god mode, I lost maybe 2/3 of 1 life bar (you have 10 to boot) of my life through the whole battle
oh my god tiamat is this most annoying thing ever
the way you can't always see the bombs to lock onto them, and then even though that bit is do-able theres a stupid long section of just fighting? how are you even supposed to dodge that thing where it just slams into the ground and makes a huge fireball? i did that bit on the ground for ages, punched it in the face 3 times and stunned it and hammered it and eventually just got chipped down by that giant fireball thing. why make the lame fighting bit a million times longer than the zelda copycat bit?
dreamer3kx
Member
Hows hard mode in the game?
sweetvar26
Member
dreamer3kx said:
I'm still in the process of beating the game on apocalyptic, clocked in 9 hrs so far. Definitely not as hard but get frustrating sometimes.
Its dead easy too easy for me on hard.
Finally finished it at bang on 16hours. Would have been 15 but I got stuck for an hour as the pathetic waypoint system didnt tell me which map to go to so wandered around for ages.
Its a 7/10 for me. Theirs way too many flaws later on in the game and Ive ended up having a sour taste in my mouth with it. It should have been a cracking game from the first half but the second half has peed me off no end with issues. Its got some quite clunky controls where it wont jump sometimes when you want it to so fall off a ledge and same for summoning a horse.
Its a shame could have been incredible so lets hope they learn their lessons for a sequel. Zelda and Batman can rest easily for myself as this just wasnt a patch on em for me. It also had way to little combat for me for last 1/4.
Disapointing feeling really of how great the first part was.
Finally finished it at bang on 16hours. Would have been 15 but I got stuck for an hour as the pathetic waypoint system didnt tell me which map to go to so wandered around for ages.
Its a 7/10 for me. Theirs way too many flaws later on in the game and Ive ended up having a sour taste in my mouth with it. It should have been a cracking game from the first half but the second half has peed me off no end with issues. Its got some quite clunky controls where it wont jump sometimes when you want it to so fall off a ledge and same for summoning a horse.
Its a shame could have been incredible so lets hope they learn their lessons for a sequel. Zelda and Batman can rest easily for myself as this just wasnt a patch on em for me. It also had way to little combat for me for last 1/4.
Disapointing feeling really of how great the first part was.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
7 hours in..
7/10 game so far. It's fun and all but way too artifically long. Game could be half as short and just as good.
7/10 game so far. It's fun and all but way too artifically long. Game could be half as short and just as good.
From the looks of things, I've just about collected everything and most power-ups but the game is almost over 
Lack of a true new game+ makes this an immediate sell-back. Just too tedious to collect everything again on another playthrough. I wish more publishers would see it would benefit them to implement this. I think it would result in more people keeping games to revisit. Even if it doesn't make sense story-wise, we've already seen it.
Lack of a true new game+ makes this an immediate sell-back. Just too tedious to collect everything again on another playthrough. I wish more publishers would see it would benefit them to implement this. I think it would result in more people keeping games to revisit. Even if it doesn't make sense story-wise, we've already seen it.They did consider t they didn't have time.2&2 said:From the looks of things, I've just about collected everything and most power-ups but the game is almost over
Neuromancer
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It gets progressively longer throughout the battle. Yeah it is kind of annoying.panda21 said:
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played a bit over an hour so far.
it seems a little janky in some places. the game reminds me very much of Brutal Legend, except without the super-inspired, interesting art. the control and general feeling of movement feel the same as it, though. very 'last-gen' (i hate myself) and light.
I wasn't really feeling the game up until this point. I've had some issues with the controls (not dodging when I was pressing the correct buttons) and the world seemed uninteresting to me, which can really ruin a game for me, but as of getting the glide ability and discovering the park-like area and whole economy system, I'm starting to see the seeds of a really cool game.
I can look over the somewhat unpolished feel if the game gets interesting enough, which to me, only takes a really interesting area or two. I'm looking forward to playing more, because the potential is totally there, despite the 'trying not to be slow but unfortunately still slow' intro.
it seems a little janky in some places. the game reminds me very much of Brutal Legend, except without the super-inspired, interesting art. the control and general feeling of movement feel the same as it, though. very 'last-gen' (i hate myself) and light.
I wasn't really feeling the game up until this point. I've had some issues with the controls (not dodging when I was pressing the correct buttons) and the world seemed uninteresting to me, which can really ruin a game for me, but as of getting the glide ability and discovering the park-like area and whole economy system, I'm starting to see the seeds of a really cool game.
I can look over the somewhat unpolished feel if the game gets interesting enough, which to me, only takes a really interesting area or two. I'm looking forward to playing more, because the potential is totally there, despite the 'trying not to be slow but unfortunately still slow' intro.
Fimbulvetr
Member
voltron said:
No, some people are just tearing-intolerant.
eXistor
Member
Ultimately, I liked the Black Throne but it was really too much in one chunk. There aren't a lot of puzzles in the game anyway and suddenly we get a three-part dungeon with nothing but same-ish puzzles all the way through? I have to say: shit got boring after the first part. I had to stop at that point and force myself to start the game up again to finish the dungeon. The best parts of the best Zelda's aren't the dungeons I think, but you need them to give the game texture or it becomes a one-note game.
The best Zelda's have a great balance between world-exploration and dungeon-puzzle solving. Darksiders is all over the place and it's all the worse for it. The overworld lacks coherence, there are really only two dungeons that actually feel like a dungeon, the others feel like it's leading up to a something that's never gonna come. I feel like I'm being too hard on the game right now, I think it's a decent first effort for Vigil, but there's just so much that needs improving. Either make it a better Zelda-like game or move away from it to avoid everyone saying they can't match Zelda, but then all you have is a sub-par hack and slash game. It's a pretty viscious cycle they've gotten themselves in. I wonder if they can manage it for the inevitable sequel.
The best Zelda's have a great balance between world-exploration and dungeon-puzzle solving. Darksiders is all over the place and it's all the worse for it. The overworld lacks coherence, there are really only two dungeons that actually feel like a dungeon, the others feel like it's leading up to a something that's never gonna come. I feel like I'm being too hard on the game right now, I think it's a decent first effort for Vigil, but there's just so much that needs improving. Either make it a better Zelda-like game or move away from it to avoid everyone saying they can't match Zelda, but then all you have is a sub-par hack and slash game. It's a pretty viscious cycle they've gotten themselves in. I wonder if they can manage it for the inevitable sequel.
Man this latest trend toward Zelda not being about dungeons is dangerous.
Zelda is always about dungeons. If Zelda has shitty dungeons and shitty tools and shitty puzzles, Zelda is a shitty fucking game. Zelda can do away with the overworld for all I care if there are a series of seven or eight incredibly designed dungeons.
Black Throne was so enthralling to me. Unlike some of the others here, it was the one place (along with Twilight Cathedral) I could not stop playing until I was done! I was completely addicted to the clever puzzles and expertly crafted flow of the dungeon. It was clear this was by someone who could, if given the time and day, make a game totally on par with the best Zelda titles.
It was an amazing dungeon by all rights.
Zelda is always about dungeons. If Zelda has shitty dungeons and shitty tools and shitty puzzles, Zelda is a shitty fucking game. Zelda can do away with the overworld for all I care if there are a series of seven or eight incredibly designed dungeons.
Black Throne was so enthralling to me. Unlike some of the others here, it was the one place (along with Twilight Cathedral) I could not stop playing until I was done! I was completely addicted to the clever puzzles and expertly crafted flow of the dungeon. It was clear this was by someone who could, if given the time and day, make a game totally on par with the best Zelda titles.
It was an amazing dungeon by all rights.
Eyemus Lutt
Member
eXistor said:
The biggest reason I play Zelda games is for the dungeons, which is why I found the Black Throne to be the best part of Darksiders.
Also I'm playing on normal and I've died enough times that I know I won't even bother with the hardest difficulty even though I really like the combat and all the combos you can do.
Mejilan said:
I liked other individual moments, but they had little to do with Zelda.
I liked the
angel duel with Ulthane or whatever his name was.
Hollows and the Ashlands were the poorest moments to me.
Also i thought it was a little weird that you get this
, but you use it at literally only one location in the entire game. Just seemed kinda arbitrary.
I mean it doesn't matter at all toward how I feel about the game, but it did make me forget how to get back to Iron Canopy since that is literally the only time you ever use that ability and I forgot about it :lol
Ruin power to run across canyon's at special points
I mean it doesn't matter at all toward how I feel about the game, but it did make me forget how to get back to Iron Canopy since that is literally the only time you ever use that ability and I forgot about it :lol
Just finished the game. What the hell was with that ending? C'mon, does no one know how to make a damn ending to their game anymore?
Other than that, I loved it. Easily the best game I've played in the last six months. The Dark Throne drug on for entirely too long. I ended up just pulling myself through it for a while. And fuck fetch quests! But at least it allowed me to go back and pick up some missing things here and there. Overall, the game could have been a little shorter, but nothing to complain about. I just hope Vigil is working on a sequel. I want to see what the hell happens next :lol
Other than that, I loved it. Easily the best game I've played in the last six months. The Dark Throne drug on for entirely too long. I ended up just pulling myself through it for a while. And fuck fetch quests! But at least it allowed me to go back and pick up some missing things here and there. Overall, the game could have been a little shorter, but nothing to complain about. I just hope Vigil is working on a sequel. I want to see what the hell happens next :lol
Eh, it was good. But I was wanting a little more closure and a few things went unanswered.Amir0x said:
Where did Samael go now that he had all the power he wanted? What's going to happen to the Kingdom of Man?
This too. I thought it wasMejilan said:
Uriel
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
No irony there...Amir0x said:
Talk about the pot calling the kettle cookware.
Warm Machine
Member
I think I'm 2 to 3 hours in and it has been a beautiful experience. Love the characters, the really crisp and satisfying combat, and the really pretty visuals. Great writing and voice acting for a game of its type as well.
GrotesqueBeauty said:No irony there...
Talk about the pot calling the kettle cookware.
It's true though. The only good Zelda overworlds are ones which have their own puzzles to access the actual dungeons, or are streamlined in such a way to provide limited wandering around aimlessly with nothing to do.
Link to the Past had an excellent Zelda overworld, Minish Cap had a really good one. Majora's Mask was the best of the 3D overworlds.
All of it is just a means to get into a dungeon, however, and if the dungeons are shit, so is the game.
FoxMcCloudDS
Member
I was going to post this on the BST thread, but here seems to be like a good place too.
I will send out my copy of Darksiders for $45.00 shipped (PS3) if someone wants one cheap. I just can't get into it for some reason after the first boss fight (Fucking awesome first boss)
PM me if interested.
I will send out my copy of Darksiders for $45.00 shipped (PS3) if someone wants one cheap. I just can't get into it for some reason after the first boss fight (Fucking awesome first boss)
PM me if interested.