Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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I met this girl over the weekend and hooked up her at my buddy's ski trip, and we had a great weekend together. When we parted ways, we kissed and she told me thanks for the lovely weekend.

On monday morning I texted her to get ice cream this week, no response. This was kind of weird; I only texted and not called because I just met her and didn't know her college schedule. Obviously now I realize my mistake, and should have called from the get go.

This isn't high school and I was tired of waiting for a response, so tonight (Tuesday night) I said fuck it and just called her and asked her out to lunch, giving two days, Saturday and Tuesday. She said she thinks she was doing something on Saturday, not mentioning anything about Tuesday. Then she was said, "thank you though, and I'll get back to you" awkwardly. Then I lightheartedly joked with her a bit on the phone, but she didn't play back like she did this weekend. The outcome is not looking good for this one, but on the bright side I now know that the door is likely closed and I can now stop wasting my time.

Also, I had a great conversation today with a girl in one of my classes. She asked me for my Facebook, and seemed really interested, so we'll see where that goes.
Hate to bump my own post, but I have some more thoughts w/ this situation.

Basically, everything was going great with this girl before she added me on Facebook. After that, it was like a switch. I don't have anything on there that's radical or even taking a stance, I never post anything, I mean it's just baffling to me. All I have is about 4 years worth of accumulated pictures, happy birthday messages, small talk.

After telling me she was busy this weekend, I saw in my news feed a post from her asking anyone if they wanted to go the museum with her -- this weekend. I don't have one-itis or anything, I mean I barely know this girl but it just hurts to be rejected like that, especially after such a great connection initially. Feeling depressed as fuck.

TLDR: Had a really nice weekend, hooked up with a cute girl, had great chemistry, she added me on Facebook, is not interested anymore.
 
Ahhhh to the fucking hell with her. That is a basic lack of respect. So here is what you are going to do.

You are not to reprimand her, remind her of your date or otherwise mention it. I don't know the details, but if you work/study close to her, keep a sunny but distant disposition around her. If she doesn't bring the issue, she fucking sucks ass and you move on. If she brings the issue on her own, apologizes and suggests another date, she is off the hook. If she brings the issue apologizes but doesn't set another date she is not interested, move on. If she brings the issue and does not apologize, be sure to point the lack of respect she shows by not doing that and move on, even if she suggests another date. If she asks what you did instead, answer "oh, I just went hang out with my dudes to [x] (fun) place" even if it's not true


Jerk

This. Follow what wolf says.
 
Ahhhh to the fucking hell with her. That is a basic lack of respect. So here is what you are going to do.

You are not to reprimand her, remind her of your date or otherwise mention it. I don't know the details, but if you work/study close to her, keep a sunny but distant disposition around her. If she doesn't bring the issue, she fucking sucks ass and you move on. If she brings the issue on her own, apologizes and suggests another date, she is off the hook. If she brings the issue apologizes but doesn't set another date she is not interested, move on. If she brings the issue and does not apologize, be sure to point the lack of respect she shows by not doing that and move on, even if she suggests another date. If she asks what you did instead, answer "oh, I just went hang out with my dudes to [x] (fun) place" even if it's not true


Jerk

Thanks :) If she does try to contact me, I don't think I'll respond no matter what she says. Not even if she says "I'll suck your dick". I think she sees the whole thing as a game, so fuck her.
 
Quick question, I feel like I should and that I do know the answer to this, but might as well ask. If a girl talks to you about a guy she wants to get slammed by this guy you both have class with or other guys she's been with, but has acted flirty with you in the past, does this mean you been friend zoned? Potentially more? She just playing with you? Hard to get? Or straight up mega slut?
 
How long has she been like that?

Are you sure you are not included in that "anyone"?

Thanks :) If she does try to contact me, I don't think I'll respond no matter what she says. Not even if she says "I'll suck your dick". I think she sees the whole thing as a game, so fuck her.

Look man, you have a right to be angry, but here is the scoop, she doesn't deserve your anger. Reserve feelings for people that deserve it, as in your family, your friends or a LTR girl that broke with you. You can be angry at those people. Not just some girl that flaked. Don't hold a grudge on her, just be calmed and collected and if push comes to the shove just say "it's ok but I don't think I can go out with you if you are going to flake like that"

She might have a friend, cousin, sister or whatever! Don't waste opportunities due to anger

Quick question, I feel like I should and that I do know the answer to this, but might as well ask. If a girl talks to you about a guy she wants to get slammed by this guy you both have class with or other guys she's been with, but has acted flirty with you in the past, does this mean you been friend zoned? Potentially more? She just playing with you? Hard to get? Or straight up mega slut?

Maximum friend zone and not a very good friend either. You are gay friend
 
TLDR: Had a really nice weekend, hooked up with a cute girl, had great chemistry, she added me on Facebook, is not interested anymore.

Don't let it get you down. Be proud that you got game, and add another conquest to your book. If they don't see the value in you, it's their loss.

Your mistake was maybe pushing for it too fast, and too serious. Most of these chicks just want to go out, have fun, and hook up. Take it for what it is, and your serious girl will come along.


Quick question, I feel like I should and that I do know the answer to this, but might as well ask. If a girl talks to you about a guy she wants to get slammed by this guy you both have class with or other guys she's been with, but has acted flirty with you in the past, does this mean you been friend zoned? Potentially more? She just playing with you? Hard to get? Or straight up mega slut?

Not gf material, that's for sure. Flirt back, hit it and quit it if you want. Sounds like 90% friendzone'd
 
How long has she been like that?

Are you sure you are not included in that "anyone"?
The trip ended on Sunday. Sunday night she adds me on Facebook after telling me how much of a great weekend we had. I accepted the friend request late that night, and texted her Monday morning to no response. Pretty sure I'm not included in that "anyone", she didn't sound too friendly on the phone either.

Don't let it get you down. Be proud that you got game, and add another conquest to your book. If they don't see the value in you, it's their loss.

Your mistake was maybe pushing for it too fast, and too serious. Most of these chicks just want to go out, have fun, and hook up. Take it for what it is, and your serious girl will come along.
Thanks man, that makes sense. How long should I have waited before contacting her?
 
Hate to bump my own post, but I have some more thoughts w/ this situation.

Basically, everything was going great with this girl before she added me on Facebook. After that, it was like a switch. I don't have anything on there that's radical or even taking a stance, I never post anything, I mean it's just baffling to me. All I have is about 4 years worth of accumulated pictures, happy birthday messages, small talk.

After telling me she was busy this weekend, I saw in my news feed a post from her asking anyone if they wanted to go the museum with her -- this weekend. I don't have one-itis or anything, I mean I barely know this girl but it just hurts to be rejected like that, especially after such a great connection initially. Feeling depressed as fuck.

TLDR: Had a really nice weekend, hooked up with a cute girl, had great chemistry, she added me on Facebook, is not interested anymore.

Don't take it to heart. It was just a one night stand. Think of it this way. You spent like one day with her. Did you have a really great time that day? Yes. And the time was short enough to not have any real attachment to her. It's still hard, but one night stands are relatively easy to recover from. You got all you're really going to get from her as far as pleasure is concerned. So time to go to another girl.
 
Quick question, I feel like I should and that I do know the answer to this, but might as well ask. If a girl talks to you about a guy she wants to get slammed by this guy you both have class with or other guys she's been with, but has acted flirty with you in the past, does this mean you been friend zoned? Potentially more? She just playing with you? Hard to get? Or straight up mega slut?

Could go either way, she could want you also and is teasing you i.e. urging you to make a move, or maybe she has indeed friend-zoned you. Depends on the girl.
 
The trip ended on Sunday. Sunday night she adds me on Facebook after telling me how much of a great weekend we had. I accepted the friend request late that night, and texted her Monday morning to no response. Pretty sure I'm not included in that "anyone", she didn't sound too friendly on the phone either.

Thanks man, that makes sense. How long should I have waited before contacting her?

Aha I get it now. You rushed things. You should have not called her on Monday. You should have responded to her Facebook around Tuesday and chat on it for a while before calling her.
 
Don't take it to heart. It was just a one night stand. Think of it this way. You spent like one day with her. Did you have a really great time that day? Yes. And the time was short enough to not have any real attachment to her. It's still hard, but one night stands are relatively easy to recover from. You got all you're really going to get from her as far as pleasure is concerned. So time to go to another girl.
Thanks man, appreciate it.

Aha I get it now. You rushed things. You should have not called her on Monday. You should have responded to her Facebook around Tuesday and chat on it for a while before calling her.
Yeah, definitely. Shit sucks, I guess I had an irrational fear that I would lose her if I didn't contact her soon enough. It's just really been a while since I connected with someone like that.

I would have probably done thursday with specific plans for the weekend. Not ice cream, but something fun at night.
I'll keep that in mind for next time, thanks man.
 
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but last week I posted in here how I was having trouble getting over a breakup with my girlfriend of 5.5 years, well I have a little fucking update on that!

She said before that she had to get some of my stuff back from her parents' house in another town, and she would be going back Thursday for it. Well, it turned out that it was in her closet the whole time, so she texted me today telling me she could give it back today. I said "Okay, I'll come get it.", but she offered to bring it to my place instead, and said she was heading my way. Now she lives about 5 minutes away from my dorm, so after a few minutes, I looked out the window for her car every once a while. After about 30 minutes, I texted her and asked if she was coming. She said "Hold on, I need to get dressed and I'll be there." About 15 minutes after that, she texts me and says she is outside. I head out there, expecting her car, but instead she's in the passenger seat of a white SUV I didn't recognize. This guy I knew she was friends with before was driving. The conversation was literally "Hi, hi, your stuff is in the back seat, okay thanks, bye, bye". I got my stuff, they left. Now I remembered who this guy was, and she was hanging out with him and his other friends quite a lot before the breakup. There were quite a few red flags up.

Now the day after the breakup happened, I asked if there was someone else, she said no.

Fast forward to tonight, I finally decided to text her and ask "Can I ask you something?" She says "sure", so I said "Is there something between you two?", and she says "I don't think that's any of your business." My jaw fucking hit the floor. If she honestly didn't want to be associated with him in that way, then she would have flat out denied it, but instead I got that.

Then another thought hit me. The initial breakup text said the following phrase in it: "I think we should see other people." I don't know how I didn't fucking catch this until now, but now it's fucking obvious she dumped me for this douchebag. She threw away 5.5 goddamn years to be with this guy instead. I highly doubt she actually cheated on me, simply due to the fact that there would have never been time, but I'm pretty damn sure she was talking to this guy before we broke up.

I feel fucking betrayed, hurt, and worthless right now.
 
Turns out flake girl is actually pretty fucking depressed! I knew it was not normal of her to act this way. It seems super heavy though and right now she can't talk about it. Oh well time to turn "super sweet dude" mode on.

I just hope it's not some I still love my ex-bf after 2 years bullshit though or I will be pissed. Pissed and angered
 
Turns out flake girl is actually pretty fucking depressed! I knew it was not normal of her to act this way. It seems super heavy though and right now she can't talk about it. Oh well time to turn "super sweet dude" mode on.

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Jesus Christ would you people stop worrying about me? I know my game! I am leaning heavily on the fact that she might just be coming out of the closet as a lesbian!
 
What I don't understand is... why don't these women ever realize that they'll never find anyone better than me? I just don't get it sometimes.

Because this is not some kind of prize game. Different girls for different guys! You have your qualities, you exploit them and hope you catch someone with the same outlook that you want.
 
Scored a date Saturday night. Exciting times! We're eating at a hole-in-the-wall Chinese place, then probably DQ for some Blizzards. I'll be packing just in case this girl is DTF. Most likely not, but stranger things have happened.
 
Never hurt to pack some rubber before the road. This one time I went out to a bar and I had absolutely no intentions or projections of getting laid so I didn't any of my rubbers from home. Turns out this chic digged me and I ended up paying like 5 bucks for three fucking condoms instead of using my trojans that I got cheap bulk at walmart :@
 
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but last week I posted in here how I was having trouble getting over a breakup with my girlfriend of 5.5 years, well I have a little fucking update on that!

She said before that she had to get some of my stuff back from her parents' house in another town, and she would be going back Thursday for it. Well, it turned out that it was in her closet the whole time, so she texted me today telling me she could give it back today. I said "Okay, I'll come get it.", but she offered to bring it to my place instead, and said she was heading my way. Now she lives about 5 minutes away from my dorm, so after a few minutes, I looked out the window for her car every once a while. After about 30 minutes, I texted her and asked if she was coming. She said "Hold on, I need to get dressed and I'll be there." About 15 minutes after that, she texts me and says she is outside. I head out there, expecting her car, but instead she's in the passenger seat of a white SUV I didn't recognize. This guy I knew she was friends with before was driving. The conversation was literally "Hi, hi, your stuff is in the back seat, okay thanks, bye, bye". I got my stuff, they left. Now I remembered who this guy was, and she was hanging out with him and his other friends quite a lot before the breakup. There were quite a few red flags up.

Now the day after the breakup happened, I asked if there was someone else, she said no.

Fast forward to tonight, I finally decided to text her and ask "Can I ask you something?" She says "sure", so I said "Is there something between you two?", and she says "I don't think that's any of your business." My jaw fucking hit the floor. If she honestly didn't want to be associated with him in that way, then she would have flat out denied it, but instead I got that.

Then another thought hit me. The initial breakup text said the following phrase in it: "I think we should see other people." I don't know how I didn't fucking catch this until now, but now it's fucking obvious she dumped me for this douchebag. She threw away 5.5 goddamn years to be with this guy instead. I highly doubt she actually cheated on me, simply due to the fact that there would have never been time, but I'm pretty damn sure she was talking to this guy before we broke up.

I feel fucking betrayed, hurt, and worthless right now.

I know you already said this but it seems like it should have been pretty obvious that she was dumping you for someone else.

Seems like a bit of a low move to show up at your place with her new BF to drop off your stuff though. The lack of honesty surrounding the reasons for the break up speaks pretty poorly about her character as well.

In a way maybe it's a blessing that the relationship has already ended instead of her stringing you along even longer before leaving you.

I think the worst thing you can do is try and comare yourself to the new guy. If it was me i would be cutting contact with her all together and just moving on completely. Don't sit around questioning yourself and worrying about her motives because you're never going to get an honest answer or reason.

Just spend time with your friends and enjoy the freedom of being by yourself for a while. Maybe take the oppurtunity to live up the single life for a while.

Whatever you do i wish you the best dealing with this whole thing. It's a shitty situation that none of us want to go through and it's going to hurt no matter what you you do. Just try not to dwell on it too much.
 
:lol



Yeah... I'm not gonna email her (she's 26 going on 45).

Having fun on here again with the messaging though. Nothing from it yet but it's entertainment for now.

POF?

I didn't care for that one, actually. Signed up, didn't like the layout. I created a troll account to make myself sound as creepy as possible for the lulz. Imagine my surprise when I got messages from girls interested in meeting. Some weird fuckers out there.
 
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but last week I posted in here how I was having trouble getting over a breakup with my girlfriend of 5.5 years, well I have a little fucking update on that!

Then another thought hit me. The initial breakup text said the following phrase in it: "I think we should see other people."

I feel fucking betrayed, hurt, and worthless right now.


She broke up a 5.5 year relationship via text message??
 
POF?

I didn't care for that one, actually. Signed up, didn't like the layout. I created a troll account to make myself sound as creepy as possible for the lulz. Imagine my surprise when I got messages from girls interested in meeting. Some weird fuckers out there.

I'm actually on both, I get the creepier messages from OKC. lol

I've had more success on POF actually. Oddly because it seems to be the other way around for most people I've talked to.
 
She broke up a 5.5 year relationship via text message??

Yeah, I posted the full story a few pages back, I'll type a tl;dr version real quick.

We had fight one day, decided she wanted a "break", I text her on third day of "break", she replies with breakup text.
 
Yeah, I posted the full story a few pages back, I'll type a tl;dr version real quick.

We had fight one day, decided she wanted a "break", I text her on third day of "break", she replies with breakup text.

breaks never work.

When a girl says "I need a break" save some time and say "nah,we are done, bye"
 
POF?

Moar liek POS!

Nah, I can't hate. One of my closest friends at work met her husband through there, who coincidentally was a friend of my older brother's through high school.
 
Yeah, I posted the full story a few pages back, I'll type a tl;dr version real quick.

We had fight one day, decided she wanted a "break", I text her on third day of "break", she replies with breakup text.

That's kind of a cop out to not even do it to your face. In fact the whole 'i want to break' spiel is a cop out in itself. It's basically just 'i wanna try some new dick, but want to keep you around in case things don't work out'.

That's an extremely difficult thing to do for a 5.5 year relationship.

It is. For me personally though i think being told that we should have a break is the same thing as saying i want to break up. So whilst it is difficult to me there is no point trying to salvage a relationship from that position. It's already over so i'd rather just skip the stage where we pretend there is anything still there and move on.
 
You know what the weirdest thing is? I don't even know what is messing me up. I can't tell if it's withdrawals, or if this is the way I was before the meds. Or if it's the emotional mess I'm in over a girl (not this girl, a different one, who I consider to be "the one").

Might be a combination of all 3. Either way, I'm broken, and there is no way to fix this. Either that girl chooses the correct answer, what I consider the only answer, or something bad will likely happen. What that is I don't know.

I've been trying to distance myself from her, but each day that passes without contact, the worse I get.

I'm only dating other girls to really just get me by until she understands. I've never told her this stuff, FYI.

Edit - I actually stood a decent chance at getting committed a week ago. I gave myself 20% odds of it. I told too many people what I think.
 
Okc sucks in the LI/ny metro area...its literally nothing but wannabe hipster transplants living in Brooklyn talking about their graduate degrees. If it allowed you to search by "5 miles" that would be cool but minimum is 25...lame.

Sorry! Had to vent.

Some people might benefit from reading: www.reddit.com/r/seduction

Don't take everything they say to heart as most of them are trying to be players. But if you sort by top all time and read the first few pages of posts and comments I guarantee you'll learn some new information to help your love life, social life, and maybe career life.
 
Ahhhh to the fucking hell with her. That is a basic lack of respect. So here is what you are going to do.

You are not to reprimand her, remind her of your date or otherwise mention it. I don't know the details, but if you work/study close to her, keep a sunny but distant disposition around her. If she doesn't bring the issue, she fucking sucks ass and you move on. If she brings the issue on her own, apologizes and suggests another date, she is off the hook. If she brings the issue apologizes but doesn't set another date she is not interested, move on. If she brings the issue and does not apologize, be sure to point the lack of respect she shows by not doing that and move on, even if she suggests another date. If she asks what you did instead, answer "oh, I just went hang out with my dudes to [x] (fun) place" even if it's not true


Jerk

You're projecting your own anger. You need to calm down. You're getting way too worked up over this girl who you're still pining over (why are you still reading her FB/texts/etc.?) and you're advising someone else to get worked up and waste time on passive-aggressive stuff like this.

To both of you (Slope and Wolf): just move on and try not to harbour ill will. She's not worth it.

Also, to everyone else getting worked up and upset about online dating, I think you're taking it too seriously. It shouldn't be frustrating. If it gets that way, either revamp your profile or your messaging style -- or just take a nice long break. Remember that you don't need a girlfriend/sex/etc. You just want it. And if you're getting worked up over it, you might want it a bit too much. It just sounds like people are getting over-invested in online dating. Make it fun, not frustrating.
 
That's an extremely difficult thing to do for a 5.5 year relationship.

You're young, in university/college, and she didn't know what she wanted. You're both different people. You'll continue to change as well. I certainly wasn't the same person leaving university as I was entering.

The first-year break-up is typical of a lot of people who're dating out of high school and into uni/college.

It sucks now, but you'll get over it. You need to really remove the magical number of 5.5 years because that number -- at your age -- is ultimately insignificant. You're not an adult yet. When you are, you'll realise that this relationship was doomed for failure from the getgo, and because of that, won't mean much other than contributing to a small bit of who you are in the future. If you let it get you down for a year or more, wallowing in self-pity, then it will affect you in a negative way because you'll be missing out on great times, great friends, and other women at your school.

So give yourself a bit of time to heal but don't let this faze you for too long. You'll be alright. Trust me.
 
Also, to everyone else getting worked up and upset about online dating, I think you're taking it too seriously. It shouldn't be frustrating. If it gets that way, either revamp your profile or your messaging style -- or just take a nice long break. Remember that you don't need a girlfriend/sex/etc. You just want it. And if you're getting worked up over it, you might want it a bit too much. It just sounds like people are getting over-invested in online dating. Make it fun, not frustrating.

Wise words, my friend. The girl I'm seeing Saturday, she and I are both going into it just wanting to chat with one another. We're not looking for a companion straight away, and we both have acknowledged the ability to have happy lives sans spouses. If nothing grows from our first date, at least I can't say I didn't try, and I can take what I learned from this experience to the next.
 
You're projecting your own anger. You need to calm down. You're getting way too worked up over this girl who you're still pining over (why are you still reading her FB/texts/etc.?) and you're advising someone else to get worked up and waste time on passive-aggressive stuff like this.

To both of you (Slope and Wolf): just move on and try not to harbour ill will. She's not worth it.

Also, to everyone else getting worked up and upset about online dating, I think you're taking it too seriously. It shouldn't be frustrating. If it gets that way, either revamp your profile or your messaging style -- or just take a nice long break. Remember that you don't need a girlfriend/sex/etc. You just want it. And if you're getting worked up over it, you might want it a bit too much. It just sounds like people are getting over-invested in online dating. Make it fun, not frustrating.

Thanks. In regards to the girl who stood me up, I'm over it. Stopped thinking about it a while ago. It's the other girl, "the one", that I can't get over. I can't let her go.
 
Thanks. In regards to the girl who stood me up, I'm over it. Stopped thinking about it a while ago. It's the other girl, "the one", that I can't get over. I can't let her go.

I was speaking about the girl who stood you up, mostly.

As for this one, you'll get there eventually. Just take your time, try to go after other girls and keep it casual/light. If you feel you're not over her, just be honest with the girl(s) you're currently involved with.
 
Ayo I'm about to go on my first official date with this girl I've been talking to. She was introduced to me by a coworker, and we've gone on a lunch date already. We went to grab some frozen yogurt on Monday during my lunch hour at work. Now I'm hoping to have more of a full-fledged date; however, its still going to be during the day time due to conflicting schedules. Any ideas? Or should we just go see a movie and grab a bite ?
 
Helpful:

Exactly what to say in a first message
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/online-dating-advice-exactly-what-to-say-in-a-first-message/

If you like it quote it so it doesn't get lost on bottom of page.

Half of that seems irreverent. Saying "hey" is bad but "hello" and "hi" way worse! What? and men saying words like "sorry" or "awkward" is a positive? That just seems weird. Some of it is good but obvious advice, the rest seem like stats that are pointless to the individual.
 
oh boy. so the girl I was all excited about and seeing all last month ignored my texts yesterday saying I was taking her to a hotel restaurant for live jazz on Thursday. We dont see each other a whole lot to begin with, about once a week (we watched a movie and had sex last week) so no, I'm not flooding her schedule with me, myself, and I. And I generally only text her to either try and make plans or to recommend a song. (we have similar tastes in music)
I figure I'll wait a day then text one final time on Thursday and if there's still no response, I've been ditched. which would suck, cause other than the mediocre sex we had last week, I've been showered with compliments from this girl. Lead on, so to speak.
 
How would you guys approach a girl who you only see in a lecture? Literally walks in then walks out to wherever. I'm tempted to walk up to her as she is leaving compliment and then be direct just say we should talk, get to know each other at a bar or coffee-house. Any suggestions to improve on this or a different gameplan?
 
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