Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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hang on, why are we encouraging combine 2.0 with the dating advice? he shouldn't even be thinking about dating girls at the moment.

Will you give that shit a rest already?

Brilliant plan. You need to be very careful when asking friends out on dates. I assume you had romantic intentions.

That's what I'm worried about. If I ask this girl out, and she's not keen on the idea, it's going to be awkward as fuck if I hang around the same people as her.
 
Will you give that shit a rest already?

That's what I'm worried about. If I ask this girl out, and she's not keen on the idea, it's going to be awkward as fuck if I hang around the same people as her.

Don't worry about what happens if she says no. You like her right? Then go for it. So many things could happen that could get in your way in the future, so you ask her out as soon as you can. Worry about what happens if she says no if she actually says no. Just don't make it weird or awkward. If she says no, pretend nothing happened.

I have experience with doing exactly the opposite. Don't do it and don't wait. Because you'll constantly be thinking about the missed opportunities, trust me. Even if you aren't sad about it, you'll be constantly wondering. Do what you gotta do, broski.
 
Weird, I find myself in exactly the same situation as both you guys. Right now I'm just trying to not let it worry me. But the parallels here are definite.
As for the bolded, I definitely have been feeling that but after even some people on here told me I had to chill I realised I really did, I'm just going to set myself back further otherwise; need to learn to be ok being single for a lil while.

That's the thing, I got out of a long relationship (the girl with all the tats) almost a year ago and was perfectly fine being single after the initial "hurt" went away (she had a kid and I got attached). I travelled, went on road trips, picked up girls at bars, I had a great time. Rewind to a couple months ago and I start dating this girl and now after it ended, I feel different than after the last time. I know I can pick up girls at a bar but I want to start meeting women elsewhere, dating around, and then find someone to have a relationship with. I'm really just trying to put myself out there as much as I can, I guess.
 
Will you give that shit a rest already?



That's what I'm worried about. If I ask this girl out, and she's not keen on the idea, it's going to be awkward as fuck if I hang around the same people as her.

Make it causal enough and it won't be a problem.
Then you just step it up slowly each time you get her out.
 
Are my standards too high? I didn't think they were but I'm honestly worried that I won't find anyone like her again. Here's pretty much my standards in a nutshell (that I can remember off the top of my head):

-Must not smoke or do drugs
-Must not be religious
-Must be decently attractive (doesn't have to be 10/10, but still decent)
-Must not be crazy (I know this is a no brainer, but you would be surprised at what's out there...)
-Must not have a ridiculous amount of tattoos and piercings.

It seems like pretty much every girl I see online either doesn't respond, has some obvious dealbreaker, or was like my now-ex is and only wants a casual relationship. There's also meeting women offline, 90% of which are religious, have boyfriends already, or something else. Keep in mind I live in Texas.

Now you might be able to see why this is so difficult.

It's not the same list for me (I don't mind tats, piercings, religion or occasional smoking of tobacco), but its not an unreasonable list by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Are my standards too high? I didn't think they were but I'm honestly worried that I won't find anyone like her again. Here's pretty much my standards in a nutshell (that I can remember off the top of my head):

-Must not smoke or do drugs
-Must not be religious
-Must be decently attractive (doesn't have to be 10/10, but still decent)
-Must not be crazy (I know this is a no brainer, but you would be surprised at what's out there...)
-Must not have a ridiculous amount of tattoos and piercings.

It seems like pretty much every girl I see online either doesn't respond, has some obvious dealbreaker, or was like my now-ex is and only wants a casual relationship. There's also meeting women offline, 90% of which are religious, have boyfriends already, or something else. Keep in mind I live in Texas.

Now you might be able to see why this is so difficult.

'Must not be crazy' eliminates 99% of the female population. You may want to compromise on that one a little.

How about 'must not be an axe-murderer' or 'must not be prone to break out into sobbing fits' instead?
 
Weird, I find myself in exactly the same situation as both you guys. Right now I'm just trying to not let it worry me. But the parallels here are definite.
As for the bolded, I definitely have been feeling that but after even some people on here told me I had to chill I realised I really did, I'm just going to set myself back further otherwise; need to learn to be ok being single for a lil while.

Let me throw my hat into the ring here too. Also I think another GAFFer (Smelly Tramp) was in a similar position a month or so back too.

I Broke up with the GF about a month ago - went through a lot of drama and hurt. Currently we're both just doing our own thing. However, in the few times we have talked - the idea has been thrown around about getting back together "at some point".

It makes things really complicated. Quite honestly - I really don't know where we stand, which has been hard. Part of me just wants to move on and put myself back out there. Alternatively, we broke up over something stupid - I'd rather not ruin any chance of reconciling just because I try to get into another relationship again.
 
Let me throw my hat into the ring here too. Also I think another GAFFer (Smelly Tramp) was in a similar position a month or so back too.

I Broke up with the GF about a month ago - went through a lot of drama and hurt. Currently we're both just doing our own thing. However, in the few times we have talked - the idea has been thrown around about getting back together "at some point".

It makes things really complicated. Quite honestly - I really don't know where we stand, which has been hard. Part of me just wants to move on and put myself back out there. Alternatively, we broke up over something stupid - I'd rather not ruin any chance of reconciling just because I try to get into another relationship again.

IMO, this is a horrible thing she's doing to you. I think it's pretty fucking selfish actually.

If a girl told me there was a chance of getting back together 'some day', then I would operate under the assumption that it won't happen. Not because she's a liar, but because she's just setting you up for disappointment if it doesn't happen (which is more likely... because people break up for a reason).

I've been in love, and been through hell when it ended, but holding on to that and keeping it from letting you move forward and meet new, better people (or people who are a better fit) is unhealthy.

I would advise anybody holding out hope that a relationship would rekindle based on the vague considerations of an ex to move on. Don't rush into a relationship just for the sake of being in one, but don't hesitate to move forward with new people just cause of some faint hope for the previous one.
 
IMO, this is a horrible thing she's doing to you. I think it's pretty fucking selfish actually.

If a girl told me there was a chance of getting back together 'some day', then I would operate under the assumption that it won't happen. Not because she's a liar, but because she's just setting you up for disappointment if it doesn't happen (which is more likely... because people break up for a reason).

I've been in love, and been through hell when it ended, but holding on to that and keeping it from letting you move forward and meet new, better people (or people who are a better fit) is unhealthy.

I would advise anybody holding out hope that a relationship would rekindle based on the vague considerations of an ex to move on. Don't rush into a relationship just for the sake of being in one, but don't hesitate to move forward with new people just cause of some faint hope for the previous one.

Indeed. I actually feel the exact same way. In fact, I have told her as such. It ultimately lead to more fighting. Her primary response / point being "Well remember that you broke up with me". "Now I need time to sort things out". "I just want some space". In essence she reversed the breakup, as I went back and tried to fix things.

My view has been that when you -really- want to be with someone, or that you actually love them - you'll try and work things out. Especially when they're at their worst. No matter what. I have relayed this stance to her as well - only to hear similar responses. "Well then you shouldn't have broke up with me".

In the end all I can really do is focus on me and try to forget about her. I get that she's still hurting. Likewise I really don't think that space is that bad of a thing. Today my main objective is not become (or have her think) that I'm some guy she can just fall back on. Even after three years. I guess the only problem recently is that I still answer (most of the time) when she calls. I should probably be avoiding her entirely. And when those conversations do happen, talks regarding us getting back together come up. In addition to her being rather loving / supportive. Which is somewhat odd (imo). Though not unsurprising if he goal is just to string me along till she figures things out.

At any rate I appreciate your insight, Antitype.
 
Are my standards too high?

-Must be decently attractive (doesn't have to be 10/10, but still decent)
-Must not be crazy (I know this is a no brainer, but you would be surprised at what's out there...)

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Its been a little bit over two months since my relationship of 6 years ended, and man I still feel weird being a lone wolf again. I should say that since I came to the US when I was 14 years old, I have always been more or less a lone wolf. I went to see Explosions in the Sky couple of weeks ago, I felt sad being there by myself. My ex messages me about once a week to see how I'm doing, always reply with an "I'm okay" and ask how she's doing.

I suppose I just miss having someone to hang out with.
 
Fëanor;39773312 said:
Its been a little bit over two months since my relationship of 6 years ended, and man I still feel weird being a lone wolf again. I should say that since I came to the US when I was 14 years old, I have always been more or less a lone wolf. I went to see Explosions in the Sky couple of weeks ago, I felt sad being there by myself. My ex messages me about once a week to see how I'm doing, always reply with an "I'm okay" and ask how she's doing.

I suppose I just miss having someone to hang out with.

Yeah often times the idea of actually being in a relationship (regardless if it was healthy or not) seems better than being alone. We're human beings, though. We desire companionship. Most of us at least.
 
Indeed. I actually feel the exact same way. In fact, I have told her as such. It ultimately lead to more fighting. Her primary response / point being "Well remember that you broke up with me". "Now I need time to sort things out". "I just want some space". In essence she reversed the breakup, as I went back and tried to fix things.

My view has been that when you -really- want to be with someone, or that you actually love them - you'll try and work things out. Especially when they're at their worst. No matter what. I have relayed this stance to her as well - only to hear similar responses. "Well then you shouldn't have broke up with me".

In the end all I can really do is focus on me and try to forget about her. I get that she's still hurting. Likewise I really don't think that space is that bad of a thing. Today my main objective is not become (or have her think) that I'm some guy she can just fall back on. Even after three years. I guess the only problem recently is that I still answer (most of the time) when she calls. I should probably be avoiding her entirely. And when those conversations do happen, talks regarding us getting back together come up. In addition to her being rather loving / supportive. Which is somewhat odd (imo). Though not unsurprising if he goal is just to string me along till she figures things out.

At any rate I appreciate your insight, Antitype.

I totally to relate to all you guys talking about post-relationship traumatic stress lol, my and my ex broke up in November because of long distance and some other stuff but we still talked til April which I think was a really bad idea looking back, gave me false hope. I just started dating someone new and I still feel weird when she's supportive or actually wants to hang out with me, which I know is crazy but goes back to how hurt I was by my ex, for all you guys I was totally in the same boat and it does get better, i know it's hard but meeting new people is the best thing to do, bars, online, friends of friends whatever
 
"That's so sweet but you're not my type sorry :(. I really think that you're one of my closest friends". Convince me to keep going gaf.

Forever alone-age represent!
 
For anyone who saw my pics: Do I look goofier with long or short hair? I just remembered I knew this girl when I had short hair, and I have fairly long hair now. For those who didn't see pics of me I have a fat-face (but I'm not fat) and a big nose. Not sure if long hair helps hide that or makes it worse.
 
I think it's more gaining the confidence to ask out a girl that you couldn't bring yourself to before so you ended up friends.

Usually leads to rejection.
Unfortunately, It's kind of hard to ask someone out randomly like people say to do. I find I'm more attracted to someone after I've become friends first, than not knowing them at all.

"you're one of my closest friends"

Yes...that's kind of the point.
 
Unfortunately, It's kind of hard to ask someone out randomly like people say to do. I find I'm more attracted to someone after I've become friends first, than not knowing them at all.

"you're one of my closest friends"

Yes...that's kind of the point.

I know what you mean, all my serious relationships have been with people I was friends with first, I've gone on dates with strangers and acquaintances, but I just find it hard to connect with someone that quickly. Repeated dates do help, but still haven't ever found a serious relationship from 'dating'.

Then again, it can be really hard to be friends with someone you are interested in so I generally try to avoid it, I have a friend who is probably the person most compatible with me that I've met, but she has no romantic interest in me. But we get along so well that I'm not just going to stop spending time with her.

Contradictory? Yes.
 
Unfortunately, It's kind of hard to ask someone out randomly like people say to do. I find I'm more attracted to someone after I've become friends first, than not knowing them at all.

"you're one of my closest friends"

Yes...that's kind of the point.

I don't get this attitude. You ask out a random girl, she says no, you move on. With a girl who is already a friend it's much more complicated. She says no, things could get awkward. She could start distancing herself from you or vice versa. And now you go from a situation where you at least had a friendship to a situation where you constantly avoid each other and no friendship. Why?
 
I don't get this attitude. You ask out a random girl, she says no, you move on. With a girl who is already a friend it's much more complicated. She says no, things could get awkward. She could start distancing herself from you or vice versa. And now you go from a situation where you at least had a friendship to a situation where you constantly avoid each other and no friendship. Why?

Because you like her and want something more than friendship?... Kinda obvious.
 
I totally to relate to all you guys talking about post-relationship traumatic stress lol, my and my ex broke up in November because of long distance and some other stuff but we still talked til April which I think was a really bad idea looking back, gave me false hope. I just started dating someone new and I still feel weird when she's supportive or actually wants to hang out with me, which I know is crazy but goes back to how hurt I was by my ex, for all you guys I was totally in the same boat and it does get better, i know it's hard but meeting new people is the best thing to do, bars, online, friends of friends whatever

Well said. Appreciate your input man. I think we all know its going to get better - shit just takes time. Which is though, but we'll live.
 
Fuck everything, I think I went through almost every profile within a 40 mile radius on OKCupid. I messaged a couple, but they haven't been online since then. Other than that, they all had some dealbreaker, or were just like my most recent ex: pretty much exactly what I want, and then they don't want a serious relationship at all. This seems so hopeless.

Can I get some suggestions for places to meet women that aren't bars preferably?
 
For anyone who saw my pics: Do I look goofier with long or short hair? I just remembered I knew this girl when I had short hair, and I have fairly long hair now. For those who didn't see pics of me I have a fat-face (but I'm not fat) and a big nose. Not sure if long hair helps hide that or makes it worse.

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Had a dull date tonight which marked the third date with this girl over the last month. I think I'm done with her. I can't hold a conversation with her no matter how simple the topic and she is closed-minded to doing anything that requires even a little effort -- like mini-golf. Her ideal date is basically getting dinner....
 
lmao dude ur fuckin ridiculous. you look fine.

THIS is what an ugly picture looks like
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That's not ugly either. Just dirty, which means (you?) have been doing something fun and interesting! edit: Unless that is not dirt/bruising and is how you look all the time, then I apologise for my dirty comment! :P

And Izick - jesus man, after all that shit several pages back, finally seeing these photos you should easily be pulling chicks. I imagined some sort of troll or something.

Work on just being a friendly, non-desperate fun person to be around and you'll go far.
 
I kind of want to go back to short hair, as I've had it that way most of my life and find it a lot more convenient and appealing, but I'm worried that I might not look as good and then I can't go back, at least not for quite a while.

Also Baldddemon if it didn't look like you had mascara on then that'd be a fucking awesome pic.
 
^gotta work all the angles my man, you're right about that
I kind of want to go back to short hair, as I've had it that way most of my life and find it a lot more convenient and appealing, but I'm worried that I might not look as good and then I can't go back, at least not for quite a while.

Also Baldddemon if it didn't look like you had mascara on then that'd be a fucking awesome pic.
lol yeah it's just mud from a day of monsoon like rain and playing football in the mud field then washing off in the ocean. maybe you should go to hawaii, pretty awesome place.

shorter is always better btw
http://i.imgur.com/Z2F4t.png
compared to
http://i.imgur.com/gZDLM.png

links cuz i dont wanna shit up this thread with pictures of me lol
 
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