Bam Bam Baklava
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How does that explain Justin Beiber and groups like One Direction?
Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy
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How does that explain Justin Beiber and groups like One Direction?
All women are also pedophiles.
What if you met someone looking like Bruce Willis, a bad-ass looking guy. You shake his hands and he has the weakest, floppiest handshake you've ever felt. You ask him where you want to go for lunch, he's unsure, indecisive. He doesn't take the lead, he doesn't even seem sure of himself. He keeps looking around, twitchy movements, his eyes flick left and right. When he speaks he ums and errs, he speaks quickly as though throwing the words he's saying out of his mouth as quickly as possible.
Being a badass has nothing to do with looks. Its a combination of body language and the lens through which you process the world around you. Your just limiting yourself in your thinking here. Im not saying "become a dickhead" or "become a badass" but remember that you actually do have the capacity to become whatever type of personality you want. Seriously!
I think it would be a lot of fun taking some acting classes, and maybe even dance classes as you said.
It would force me to open up a bit more, and that would hopefully benefit me when I'm out and about.
Perhaps dress differently and get a haircut? They can both potentially help a man look more manly.
Be careful about generalizing. If you have a non-masculine face, you'll just attract girls that are attracted to non-masculine faces. If you try to be something you aren't, you'll just look funny.
It bothers me that guys will say you can be "an ass/breast/face man", someone who prefers "cute/hot girls", likes "confident/shy girls", etc., but when it comes to women, they say, well, all women want this, this, and that.
If you're just looking to improve your chances of finding some girlfriend, then yeah, there are changes you can make to your appearance. But when if starts affecting who you are, then you'll have a problem.
Bam Bam Baklava
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He's right you know. I was once talking to a pretty smart guy and we saw some badass looking guy and I said "He must get all the girls" to which he replies "No, he only gets certain girls".
No such thing as a universally attractive person.
Almond
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I think I'm a decent person. Shouldn't the other person know if they'll like me or not?
I know. I just haven't met anyone like that in person yet.
Thanks.
Devolution
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Always our fault.
Have you tried OkCupid? I messaged someone for about a month until we had a date last week. Even though the first date was kind of strange given we had already talked about so much, it still went really well once she was no longer nervous. Maybe you're similar?
And you don't have to worry that you're an introvert - my "What do you do on a Friday night" is "Going to dinner with friends, studying, playing board/card/video games, painting, or homework (terribly interesting, I know)." As a guy, I average around one unsolicited message a week. As a girl, you'll get a ton more than that.
Hey don't put down lookin funny. Have you seen a LMFAO music video?
The Antitype
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Whose ascribing fault? You like what you like, in large part due to biology.
It's not a judgement to say that you get your panties wet over jerks. It just is. We (men) can learn from it, or we can deny it and learn nothing.
Devolution
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I don't get my panties wet over jerks. But I guess if you want to read it that way.
The Antitype
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Well, if you are attracted to a guy, the chances of you actually identifying him as a jerk are slim to none.
In fact, no matter how much friends and family may warn you about said jerk, you'll probably stand by him and say something like 'Oh you just don't KNOW him' or 'You don't get him' or something like that.
The vagina will always overpower reason. It shares that power with the penis. They are our overlords.
Devolution
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I must have evolved past the state where I make excuses for assholes because I find them physically attractive. But thanks for the assumptions.
The Antitype
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Again, had you been attracted to them, you would have found it very difficult to correctly identify them as assholes.
Once the labia moisten, reality is malleable.
Devolution
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Uh at this point I hope what you're posting is pure parody because it's insulting.
Jesus man, WTF is wrong with you? Not everybody conforms to what you were told by your bros.
The Antitype
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Nah, I'm just a big believer in biomechanics.
Men aren't immune either. Ask any guy who's had a friend who let his gf treat him like shit, simply because her power over his dick convinced him she was a loving treasure of a person.
If by 'my bros' you mean the members of the scientific community that have done extensive studies on gender relations and sexuality, then yes, I would say most human beings do in fact conform to those patterns, regardless of how much their personal view of themselves conflicts with the idea.
Devolution
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Don't let the existence of non-abusive relationships fuck up your argument or anything.
The Antitype
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Nothing I've stated suggests the impossibility of healthy relationships.
Devolution
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But you're so sure that biologically my gender wants to date and fuck assholes exclusively.
shanshan310
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What the crap happened in here??? D: I don't want to date jerks!
EDIT: I'm not sure how they could do research into something so subjective as "liking a 'jerk' ", but okay.
EDIT: I'm not sure how they could do research into something so subjective as "liking a 'jerk' ", but okay.
clearacell
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A "nice guy" is complaining about assholes taking the women he never had.
The Antitype
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I'd like you to quote something resembling a complaint, actually.
Or anything that suggests I'm a nice guy (in the facetious sense or otherwise), for that matter.
I don't have many problems with women, actually, because I choose to absorb the information provided by the scientific community and make use of it.
And apparently I'm pretty good looking, according to people here, though I've never considered myself such. So that may help, but I've obviously never relied on it since I've never thought of it as a strength.
Any ideas for a guy in South Florida that doesn't have any close friends to go out and do to meet people and women and stuff? I'm trying to stay positive but i am struggling to think of a way to be able to go out on my own and make something happen other than message girls on cupid who always flake out. Everyone always says "join clubs' but honestly i wouldn't know how to begin with that. I'm not in high school or college anymore where you go find a sign-up sheet. I'm 28 living on my own. I'm tempted to just drive somewhere and walk around but honestly that never works for me cause i fall into the habit of just minding my own business and moving quickly when i get nervous.
The Antitype
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The study I quoted had nothing to do with confidence. There was no behavior involved, because it was based purely on pictures.
It merely shows that there is a direct overlap in the men that women view as attractive and the men they view as threatening.
Which is to say, a man they view as more or less likely and capable of dealing them violence or ill treatment, are also the men they are more likely to turn around and bend forward for.
Devolution
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Did you ever think that maybe they're choosing the slightly scary looking dudes in order to keep themselves safe? See look I can make conclusions too.
CrudeDiatribe
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Having to have sex with the lights off is a small price to pay.
The Antitype
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Read the study.
The operational definition of threatening in this study was not 'capable' or 'strong'.
It was defined in terms of a person's willingness or ability to deal harm to the subject (the women).
Furthermore, the brainscans involved showed activity in the part of the brain that deals with attraction, and the part of the brain that deals with threat assessment.
The men they are attracted to are men they deem as potential threats to THEMSELVES.
The Anti-Monitor
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Masculine men are percieved as more attractive and more dangerous than feminine men?
Women are attracted to assholes confirmed.
Women are attracted to assholes confirmed.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I notice that the last 20 posts and thought to myself... "Deja vu? The fuck?"
The Antitype
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By all means, provide a study that contradicts the findings.
Your white-knighting to preserve the honor of the noble treasures of the feminine are neither informative nor inspiring.
shanshan310
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Can women white-knight for themselves? I don't know.
Devolution
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Any man who's big and nasty enough to fuck another dude up can just bat me aside no problem. I don't think you understand what I'm asserting here. That we can come to conclusions based on that information when nothing more is specified. You're deciding it means women love them some assholes rather than they're choosing men who can protect the unit even if they find them a bit scary themselves. In fact that might be why they choose them. But who the fuck even cares, you're asserting biology as the end all be all of human interaction which is just simplistic and insulting to the fact that people are social animals and have moved past such limiting primal urges.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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You really should do a self-study. Become an asshole and see how many women you get raging horny after you.
Oh wait.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I wish RiskyChris were still around. He could answer this. For women.
shanshan310
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^ lol.
Aside from the fact I've met plenty of jerk-y guys who didn't look very physically strong. The definition for "a jerk" is so subjective anyway.
Aside from the fact I've met plenty of jerk-y guys who didn't look very physically strong. The definition for "a jerk" is so subjective anyway.
The Antitype
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I might try it. I did find that being aloof and indifferent, showing no regard for what women thought in conversation or interaction, or what they thought of me, DID lead to a sizeable uptick in interest.
Granted, that's more of a subdued narcissism than outwardly threatening behavior, but they all fit under the umbrella of sociopathic character traits.
There was actually a great book called 'The Psychopath Test' which showed that a higher than average percentage of successful business people could be classified as sociopaths. I would be interested to see if those classified as sociopaths also saw greater success than women.
I would guess yes.
The Anti-Monitor
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It's literally what the study you linked said. The fact masculine men are both more attractive and more dangerous than feminine mean doesn't mean attractive comes from danger.
And what's the problem with me being a white knight. Maybe one of these maidens will give me their noble treasures. Knights love treasures.
The Antitype
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So danger comes from attraction?
There's clearly a correlation, if the same men that are dampening pussies are also stirring danger warning mechanisms in the brain.
The Anti-Monitor
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Attraction and danger come from masculinity. It's literally what your link says. A more masculine man is more dangerous than a feminine one. A more masculine man is more attractive.
Did you really need a study to tell you this?
shanshan310
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What I think is a more interesting study is the one that found that women on the pill become attracted to more feminine men while they're using it. /offtopic.
Damn, carefree sex, better get girly confirmed.
The Antitype
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I liked seeing conclusive evidence of it from brain scans.
If you think the fact that masculine men are perceived by women as both more attractive AND more threatening is just a wonderful, beautiful coincidence of nature, then so be it.
Makes sense to me.
When a woman's hormone cocktail is looking to reproduce, she's looking for the masculine, threatening, alpha bad-boys to create strong off-spring.
When her hormone levels have been adjusted post-pregnancy or ovulation (or manipulated by science) so that reproduction isn't top priority, she goes looking for the less dangerous provider and nurturing males to spend their resources on her.
The ideal scenario, she raises the alpha's child using the other guy's resources.
So a woman with pill-manipulated hormones is in provider-search mode, not 'fuck a baby into me' mode.
The Antitype
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nvm
You silver tongue devil you probably do now.
The Antitype
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Well, it's more fun you use imagery than it is to just say 'get horny'.
Besides, it's a physiological response. Nothing more, so I choose to describe it in those terms.
That study describes a trend - it doesn't give you the leeway to pick out a woman, say, "This is how you view men and this is what you are attracted to" without being sexist.
This is ignoring the fact that brain activation studies are known for leading scientists to make poor conclusions.
And by the time you were saying
And if you're think I'm just white-knighting, I'm doing this because I hate when men speak for me about what I'm looking for in someone, or say I'm only interested in sex because I'm a guy and that's all guys are interested in.
This is ignoring the fact that brain activation studies are known for leading scientists to make poor conclusions.
And by the time you were saying
You were being sexist, derogatory, and objectifying Devolution.The Antitype said:
And if you're think I'm just white-knighting, I'm doing this because I hate when men speak for me about what I'm looking for in someone, or say I'm only interested in sex because I'm a guy and that's all guys are interested in.
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