Dating-Age |OT5| Halp me pls. In the bathroom.

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Getting sick is the worst. They respond even more sporadically and you can't do anything about a cancelled date except hope that they take the initiative to reschedule.

At least with a vacation you know the exact dates that they'll be away.

Yeah, it turns out she really was sick and was stressed from studying for her equivalent of the bar exam. She apologized and we're getting together next week (since her mother's visiting this weekend). I admit that I was a little bummed for half a day, but then I coped by working out and grabbing dinner with a friend. It's important not to --

Also realize that every little interaction isn't some game or puzzle. People have lives and people act weird sometimes. It's fine. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket until you are sure that the dating is serious. Otherwise you are more prone to overanalyze every small interaction with someone, rather than focusing on the big picture.

Exactly this. I'll caveat this with the following: not putting all of your eggs in one basket doesn't necessarily mean dating others. But it means productively occupying your time well enough (and legitimately being satisfied with doing so) that you can recognize a budding relationship for what it is: something that's not actually there yet.

Ask for numbers, don't give yours. That's the fast way to getting forgotten about as she's likely matching with lots of guys who are asking for her number and engaging her rather than her having to engage them.

Never had this issue. Online: "If texting's easier, my number is ..." I've literally never not had a number offered in response. Offline: "*touches Contacts app* *hands over phone*" Again, no one's ever refused. It's just a number; it's not some rite of passage that it was in the 1950s.

But you have a guy on here that wants what you wanted...I don't think you actually have made peace with it otherwise you wouldn't be interested in dating gaf.

Why don't you and mikedip PM each other. It's not like it's going to hurt either of you if nothing comes of it.

Instead of PMing, it wouldn't be an outright terrible idea to start another thread for those whose tastes don't cater to traditional dating norms, so that, at the very least, they (and others) can offer each other advice. Maybe Asexual-Age |OT| wouldn't be as active as this thread, but there's a need, just as there's a stark difference between GettingaDate-Age and LTR-Age.

I find it hot when a girl wants me to teach her to kiss. I wonder if girls feel the same about guys like OP. Watch some American movies with kissing, OP. See how it's done. I try to keep the closed mouth to open mouth ratio at about 5:3.

Nope. One of the last girls I dated was nicknamed Fish Lips. I suppose there's an innocuous version of the hot vs. crazy scale for sexual inexperience or ineptness here, admittedly. Also, yes to biting. Who doesn't bite?

I've been out on a date with this girl three times. The second and third times I went to her house and we had sex both times. What I found interesting was that each time she didn't let me stay. Before we went to her house she said if I would be ok staying only for a couple of hours and I said yes.

Yesterday I asked her to spend a valentines weekend on a winery and she said she can't stay overnight but is happy to spend Valentine's Day with me at a winery. I found that a bit strange and this got me wondering what are her feelings for me.

I'm seeing her on Friday and I would like to ask what are her feelings towards me but I don't know if that's a good idea and if I should just keep it casual . I imagine most girls who've slept twice with a guy would have some kind of feelings towards him.

I've only known her for ten days for now. I have feelings towards her and want to ask her if we should see each other only and if that's too early to stay it.

No. Absolutely not. You've known each other for 10 days, and you do not want to bring up the exclusivity talk now -- in fact, either let her bring it up or simply wait until it's naturally progressed (at which point, you'll know it when you see it). You're blindsiding her with an ultra-romantic date idea on V-Day. Don't pressure so hard for the overnight stay, either, although I will say that a girlfriend I had back in 2015 had similar ideas, and she ultimately wasn't comfortable with the idea of a relationship at the time.

That said, forcing it doesn't help. Having the DTR ten days in doesn't help. Talking about feelings, at this stage, doesn't help. You're well within your rights to say "I like you." In fact, I volunteer that early on if I'm feeling it. There's nothing wrong with being emotionally open, but not to the degree that you're suggesting.

Let things progress. You know how you can move things from "casual" to "serious?" By dating someone, getting to know them, and spending increasing amounts of time with them. This isn't high school: adults don't ask someone to be their boy/girlfriend.

She sent me a text tonight, asking if we can do something next week, when she's home from her trip. I said sure, with a smiley face.

This is where you figure out something, propose it, and say: "Hey, Leia! Have a good time on your trip. Let's do X at 7pm on Tuesday." You have plenty of time to think of a date between now and then. Also, in the interim, you can prepare. Get a haircut. Groom your beard. You've also got a weekend to consider modifying your wardrobe. It's hard to go wrong with jeans and a button-up with rolled sleeves. (Note: I honestly don't remember what you look like! But, these are points worth following regardless.)

I'm still talking to the other two girls on OKC, because nothing is set in stone and I'm still not sure if there's a romantic connection between the other girl and I. I hope that something good will come out of this, though, after all of my bad luck.

Also, trust me when I say that, although I'm new to this, I know the rights and wrongs and will not cheat. I couldn't live with myself if I did.

There are things I like about them all, but I'll likely never end up meeting the one because she lives 45 minutes to an hour away and I don't know if she has a car.

You can't cheat if you're not in a relationship.

EDIT: And, as for the on campus thing: For what it matters, I got zero sex during college (in fact, I had an eleven year dry streak broken last May...twice, that's it). I didn't live on campus, but did have friends I hung out with outside of school. Women just normally don't seem to find me to be more than their quiet, nerdy friend.

I didn't in college, either. Post-law school, though... well, some people peak later: that's okay.

Dating-Age |OT6| We've gone full circle.

Apparently.
 

Yeah. It feels like cheating, but it isn't. I guess I'm just not used to it. I'm learning on the fly, because I hardly ever dated before.

I've never really worn jeans, but should buy some. I'm the type of guy who wears cotton pants or khakis and a button-up shirt. I plan to get a haircut (it honestly doesn't look bad right now, nor does the beard -- just needs a bit of work) because I have a $2.99 coupon that expires on Valentine's Day. Of course, they'll charge an extra seven for the beard.
 
Shit, I want to figure this girl out, but I don't know her name. I guess it wouldn't be hard for me to get her name, but I'm kind of confused on if I should even bother trying to get with her to do something.

We used to talk a pretty good amount, but after a while, we sort of stopped. I'm sure that it was due to me giving lackluster responses and monotone responses to her advances, so I think she got the wrong idea. I'm not really a confrontational person, and I find talking to be tiring sometimes.

I don't know. I'm having some problems with myself, like an existential crisis. As of now, I'm interested in dating, but I'm not really all there most of the time.

Really, I just want companionship, just like Chewie mentioned, but it seems like many my age aren't exactly interested in that type of relationship. If I'm really honest, I just want someone with the same interests as me, which she definitely has a ton in common with me.


Should I just wing it and ask her out despite the way I've been feeling, or should I just wait and let it marinate for a while to get a feeling?

After the months of knowing her and helping her with her work, I don't know how I failed to get her name down. So strange.
 
Instead of PMing, it wouldn't be an outright terrible idea to start another thread for those whose tastes don't cater to traditional dating norms, so that, at the very least, they (and others) can offer each other advice. Maybe Asexual-Age |OT| wouldn't be as active as this thread, but there's a need, just as there's a stark difference between GettingaDate-Age and LTR-Age.

Nah.

Dating-Age |OT6| MikeDipXLeeness You Had Me At "Hello"

...😐
 
Shit, I want to figure this girl out, but I don't know her name. I guess it wouldn't be hard for me to get her name, but I'm kind of confused on if I should even bother trying to get with her to do something.

We used to talk a pretty good amount, but after a while, we sort of stopped. I'm sure that it was due to me giving lackluster responses and monotone responses to her advances, so I think she got the wrong idea. I'm not really a confrontational person, and I find talking to be tiring sometimes.

I don't know. I'm having some problems with myself, like an existential crisis. As of now, I'm interested in dating, but I'm not really all there most of the time.

Really, I just want companionship, just like Chewie mentioned, but it seems like many my age aren't exactly interested in that type of relationship. If I'm really honest, I just want someone with the same interests as me, which she definitely has a ton in common with me.


Should I just wing it and ask her out despite the way I've been feeling, or should I just wait and let it marinate for a while to get a feeling?

After the months of knowing her and helping her with her work, I don't know how I failed to get her name down. So strange.

Well, if you have a ton in common but aren't sure how to maybe let another person into your life, try contacting her again. See how she's doing, don't overthink any interaction between the two of you and see if she wants to do something related to those common interests. Be casual about it. Treat her like a friend. If you guys get along like that, there is your companionship. See how you feel if it gets to that point and go from there.
 
Speaking of getting sick, girl went to see ax doctor and his a virus. She had it when we went it last Friday but thought it went away. She's feeling better now, but I think I caught it from her. Got a sore throat. She said thats where it usually starts.
 
Key word, invest. Spend a bit extra and get some good jeans. I have a couple of mid-high end pairs that I've been rocking for a couple of years now and they still look great.

Yeah, so I've heard. Friends have been telling me this for years, but I've just never liked them much.

I'm interested in perhaps buying some, but don't want to spend too much. I don't know if I'll like them, and don't want to spend a lot then have to do it again if I gain weight.
 
I rock these, all day erryday.

Well, that's kind of a lie. They're pretty much the only pants I own or wear (about 10 pairs in different colours, although I main 3 right now), but I spend most of my life in pajama pants as I don't go out much.
 
I hate jeans. All wear are either linen pants or chinos.

I'd take fashion advice from you. I have literally nothing in between the casual look (jeans, button-up, maybe vest, maybe blazer, with either suede shoes or chukkas) and a suit. D.C.'s a pretty casual city, surprisingly, and jeans are the norm here, but I wouldn't mind something that's a step up.

Ideas?

Also, fellas: invest in a good pair of shoes. Several.
 
Yeah, so I've heard. Friends have been telling me this for years, but I've just never liked them much.

I'm interested in perhaps buying some, but don't want to spend too much. I don't know if I'll like them, and don't want to spend a lot then have to do it again if I gain weight.
A good pair of Levis will do. I dropped $40-50 on some athletic fit Levis, and I've been happy with them for the months I've had them.

They go good with everything. I wear them every week.
 
I'd take fashion advice from you. I have literally nothing in between the casual look (jeans, button-up, maybe vest, maybe blazer, with either suede shoes or chukkas) and a suit. D.C.'s a pretty casual city, surprisingly, and jeans are the norm here, but I wouldn't mind something that's a step up.

Ideas?

Also, fellas: invest in a good pair of shoes. Several.

yoga pants and northface jacket =)
 
Although I'd like sex, my reason for dating is more about companionship. I want someone who's there for me and who cares about me like I'm the most important person around, and I want to feel the same way/treat them like that too.

I've never had that.

I also really like to cuddle, so there's that. Sex is just a bonus from time to time.

Speaking of sex, is it bad practice to grab a handful of condoms from the local clinic whenever you're there? They're there for free, but it feels grubby. I had a couple of appointments and grabbed some, but I'm tempted to stop in when I'm nearby to get a few more. I'm still learning how to properly use the damned things (ie. which side when opening the package.)

Don't laugh, please.

EDIT: And, as for the on campus thing: For what it matters, I got zero sex during college (in fact, I had an eleven year dry streak broken last May...twice, that's it). I didn't live on campus, but did have friends I hung out with outside of school. Women just normally don't seem to find me to be more than their quiet, nerdy friend.
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GAF, I'm confused. Yesterday I saw the girl who told me she started Tinder back up again because she "was bored" (she was the one who brought it up on the first date) for the third time. She made us pancakes, I played her the guitar, we had good fun and it turned into a 8h hangout session at my place with some making out but not more.

Today I snapchatted her that I was tired so I was gonna watch disney movies with chips, and asked if she knew someone who might like that. She came over and we watched Aladdin. Afterwards more making out, but this time I tried to make more moves which she sort of (I'm not 100% sure) rejected by not moving her hands away from the bottom of her shirt when I tried to get there. Politely took (what I interpreted it as) the hint and a bit later she left because her sister had made food at home. I don't think her going home has anything to with things, she is getting up early and had way too little sleep last night because she was at my place until way past midnight.

However I'm not sure what to make of this. I initially took the "was bored" comment as that she was not looking for anything serious, so I went in cautiously. I then sort of suspected her to be disappointed when a 8 hour hangout at my place didn't turn into sex. But then she came over today again, but rejected my advances.

As I see it, there are two scenarios here. Either she was looking for only sex and wanted it today, but bailed out in the last moment. Or she doesn't feel comfortable/ready or whatever.
EDIT: Just figured that a third possible scenario is that she's on her period. But wouldn't you just say that outright then?

How do I play this from now on?

Well I can say last night went much better. Took a while to work her up to it, but when we got going there was no question about what she wanted. She spent the night too :)

But...

The weirdest thing just happened to me. I was going to do the laundry, so I emptied my laundry basket and put it in a bag to carry to the laundry room. I get to the laundry room, and as I'm taking out the clothes (mostly underwear since I had run out), I suddenly find a pair of black lace panties. I'm very puzzled by this but keep putting stuff in the washing machine, until I eventually find another pair, exactly like the first pair.

How is this even possible? The only person who has been here since I last did my laundry is the girl I'm currently dating. She's been here twice (Wednesday and Thursday the week before this one), so it kind of has to be her. But why would she hide panties in my laundry - we didn't even have sex (we haven't at all yet, just some cuddling and making out). I'm just so confused now. Do I ask her about this? Did she perhaps expect us to have sex when she came here on either Wednesday or Thursday so she put the panties there for some reason (no idea why) and then forgot about them? Like wtf is even going on.

... the panties weren't hers! Or at least she said so. I did set it up so that it could have been a female friend of mine's, so I doubt she was suspicious. But still, this is so weird. A girl did spend the night on new year's eve, but I dunno how I could have missed the panties in two straight washes?!
 
Never had this issue. Online: "If texting's easier, my number is ..." I've literally never not had a number offered in response. Offline: "*touches Contacts app* *hands over phone*" Again, no one's ever refused. It's just a number; it's not some rite of passage that it was in the 1950s.

Wait, do you mean it's better to ask for her number instead of giving you her number?

Or am I getting this wrong; I always thought that giving my own number (and name) was the better move. That way they can answer if they can/want to, and I made the first move. If they don't answer, well... there's your answer.


Well I can say last night went much better. Took a while to work her up to it, but when we got going there was no question about what she wanted. She spent the night too :)
But...
... the panties weren't hers! Or at least she said so. I did set it up so that it could have been a female friend of mine's, so I doubt she was suspicious. But still, this is so weird. A girl did spend the night on new year's eve, but I dunno how I could have missed the panties in two straight washes?!

That IS weird.
 
Well I can say last night went much better. Took a while to work her up to it, but when we got going there was no question about what she wanted. She spent the night too :)

But...



... the panties weren't hers! Or at least she said so. I did set it up so that it could have been a female friend of mine's, so I doubt she was suspicious. But still, this is so weird. A girl did spend the night on new year's eve, but I dunno how I could have missed the panties in two straight washes?!

Is it a communal laundry room? Could someone else have left them there by accident?
 
Is it a communal laundry room? Could someone else have left them there by accident?

No because the thing is that I found it in my own laundry. I have a laundry basket in my apartment which I empty into a bag when I go to the laundry room. I found them as I was taking the laundry out of my own bag to put in the machine.

The only explanation I can think of the new year's eve girl (which my date thinks was my best female friend who stayed the night, but it actually was a online date girl. No reason to tell her because it was before we met), but as I said, how could I have missed it twice? Must have tangled itself into another pair of underwear, but then again why would I wash that pair again without having used it (since it was in my own laundry basket)?

I'll probably just throw them away and forget about it at this point.
 
No because the thing is that I found it in my own laundry. I have a laundry basket in my apartment which I empty into a bag when I go to the laundry room. I found them as I was taking the laundry out of my own bag to put in the machine.

The only explanation I can think of the new year's eve girl (which my date thinks was my best female friend who stayed the night, but it actually was a online date girl. No reason to tell her because it was before we met), but as I said, how could I have missed it twice? Must have tangled itself into another pair of underwear, but then again why would I wash that pair again without having used it (since it was in my own laundry basket)?

I'll probably just throw them away and forget about it at this point.

Why would you throw it away, you have free new underwear. Keep it.
 
I'd take fashion advice from you. I have literally nothing in between the casual look (jeans, button-up, maybe vest, maybe blazer, with either suede shoes or chukkas) and a suit. D.C.'s a pretty casual city, surprisingly, and jeans are the norm here, but I wouldn't mind something that's a step up.

Ideas?

Also, fellas: invest in a good pair of shoes. Several.

Heh, I went to a restaurant a couple weeks ago, and since there's always a waiting time, an older couple were sitting on a bench next to mine. The husband wanted to know where I got my linen pant. $20 on clearance at Banana Republic, the Kentfield pants. Originally $70. Size? 32x34, the only one left. I was LUCKY. Down here in Florida, they're perfect since they're light weight and you won't sweat like a pig.

Guy then asked about my Clark's dark brown suede chukka boots. Other than the chinos, I wear fitted polo shirts from J Crew due to my athletic build. During winter I like to wear my cardigan from J Crew with a grey checkered long sleeve button up shirt underneath it with grey chinos and black shoes.

Date for tomorrow night got cancelled most likely. Since she's sick and took the day off yesterday, she has to make up hours, and work Saturday on her day off and may have to stay late tomorrow night. She said she's sorry for ruining her own surprise. I told her how about Monday, and she said that would work.

Can't be lying, because now I'm fucking sick and got it from her. =\
 
I'm 25 and 2 years into my relationship. i'm very happy and couldn't have asked for a better "first" real relationship.

The problem is, I have nothing really to compare it too. Things seem to be getting serious, but if they do progress, she could potentially be the only women I ever slept with. I'm not really sure how I should feel about that. Has anyone been/are in a similar position?
 
I have a dilemma. I've been seeing this girl for over a month now, we get along and I like her but with Valentine's Day coming up, I'm not comfortable at this stage to hang out with her that day because of the implications that come with that stupid day. It falls on a Sunday so I have no idea what excuse to use to get out of hanging with her that day.
 
I have a dilemma. I've been seeing this girl for over a month now, we get along and I like her but with Valentine's Day coming up, I'm not comfortable at this stage to hang out with her that day because of the implications that come with that stupid day. It falls on a Sunday so I have no idea what excuse to use to get out of hanging with her that day.

Just do something casual. Grab a pizza and hang out. I doubt she's expecting a big romantic gesture.
 
^ This. Valentine's Day is for suckers anyway and if the person you're with gets upset that you're not buying them a big dinner or diamond ring because they fell into the hype of a manufactured "holiday" they're not worth your time.
 
I have a dilemma. I've been seeing this girl for over a month now, we get along and I like her but with Valentine's Day coming up, I'm not comfortable at this stage to hang out with her that day because of the implications that come with that stupid day. It falls on a Sunday so I have no idea what excuse to use to get out of hanging with her that day.

Have you slept with this girl? Or is it just like a friendly thing.
 
Shit, the girl I'm dating for a month's birthday is apparently on the 20th of this month, that's one week after valentine's. If we don't do anything on valentine's we probably should do something in connection to the birthday. If we last to the 20th, do I get her a gift, however insignificant? I'm not going to spend much money, but do you guys think a gift would be appreciated at this stage?
 
Shit, the girl I'm dating for a month's birthday is apparently on the 20th of this month, that's one week after valentine's. If we don't do anything on valentine's we probably should do something in connection to the birthday. If we last to the 20th, do I get her a gift, however insignificant? I'm not going to spend much money, but do you guys think a gift would be appreciated at this stage?
Was in the same exact situation with my last girlfriend. We had been "seeing" each other for about a month and her bday was coming up. I just took her to her favorite restaurant for a casual dinner and bought her a $40 present. She really enjoyed it.

I'd really say not to buy anything too expensive. Between the gift and dinner it probably came to around ~$100 but it made her happy and so it was worth it.

Edit: just realized I don't have to worry about Valentine's Day preparation like I did for her bday and Christmas...that's a solid feeling at least haha
 
I'm 25 and 2 years into my relationship. i'm very happy and couldn't have asked for a better "first" real relationship.

The problem is, I have nothing really to compare it too. Things seem to be getting serious, but if they do progress, she could potentially be the only women I ever slept with. I'm not really sure how I should feel about that. Has anyone been/are in a similar position?

Yes, I was in a six year relationship with my first girl. She had slept with a handful of people, but she was the only girl I had gone that far with. It bothered her quite a bit and is possibly a small part of why we broke up. I think she felt that I surely wanted to sleep with other people, which I found offensive.

Can you be comfortable with the reality that she might be your only one? I felt that I was as long as I was happy with her. Now it's not really an issue since we are no longer together.
 
I can offer up that the idea of different 'flavors' of people extends about as far as their sex technique, biological sex organ build, and personality - and that's really it. Your emotional bond should take precedence over any desires of wanting to sleep around IMO, if you're happy with your relationship.
 
Shit, the girl I'm dating for a month's birthday is apparently on the 20th of this month, that's one week after valentine's. If we don't do anything on valentine's we probably should do something in connection to the birthday. If we last to the 20th, do I get her a gift, however insignificant? I'm not going to spend much money, but do you guys think a gift would be appreciated at this stage?

Flowers. Chocolate?
 
Welp. I think I completely fucked things up with the girl I hooked up with last weekend. On the advice of a mutual friend we didn't really chat all week. Instead, I waited until today to ask her to hang out this weekend. Responded with hanging out with a friend from out of town, I said completely understand, what are you doing tonight? I don't have anything going on so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

No response.

Goddamn it.

Put the phone down y'all.
 
So I saw that girl at work today. I used a whole hour and thirty minutes debating on asking her out. In the end I went for it, but she said she's already in a relationship.

The time it took was shameful. no excuses. I'll do better next time.
 
Welp. I think I completely fucked things up with the girl I hooked up with last weekend. On the advice of a mutual friend we didn't really chat all week. Instead, I waited until today to ask her to hang out this weekend. Responded with hanging out with a friend from out of town, I said completely understand, what are you doing tonight? I don't have anything going on so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

No response.

Goddamn it.

Put the phone down y'all.

What exactly do you think you did wrong? A girl who's into you isn't going to mind that you invited her out since she was occupied. A girl who's not won't care regardless. Just leave the ball in her court. But what you did was fine.
 
I have a dilemma. I've been seeing this girl for over a month now, we get along and I like her but with Valentine's Day coming up, I'm not comfortable at this stage to hang out with her that day because of the implications that come with that stupid day. It falls on a Sunday so I have no idea what excuse to use to get out of hanging with her that day.

Go to a church function? Haha

It's a Sunday- tell her you made plans with family for dinner if she asks to hang out/expects it. Go actually have dinner with family or order in. You count as your own relative, right? O_O
 
Go to a church function? Haha

It's a Sunday- tell her you made plans with family for dinner if she asks to hang out/expects it. Go actually have dinner with family or order in. You count as your own relative, right? O_O

I was thinking of using the family excuse, but maybe she feels the same way and I should just say nothing for now and see what happens
 
I have a dilemma. I've been seeing this girl for over a month now, we get along and I like her but with Valentine's Day coming up, I'm not comfortable at this stage to hang out with her that day because of the implications that come with that stupid day. It falls on a Sunday so I have no idea what excuse to use to get out of hanging with her that day.

Why wouldn't you just talk to her about it?
 
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