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DC Extended Universe |OT2| A League of xX-=DaMaGeD=-Xx Gentlemen
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Smokey_Run
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Fincher isn't happening. First, he likely wants nothing to do with this mess. Second, isn't he notorious for having an insane amount of control over his films? And third, why would Warner Bros want to put someone on a movie with an already insane budget that does dozens of takes for a single scene? Talk about burning through cash on a huge production like this with Fincher's directing style.
If he did, ooh boy. People would shut the fuck up so quick lol. When Ben talked about making his Batman movie more like a detective noir, I immediately thought of Fincher. He has a gift for that kind of movie.
I think Ben will make sure this comes out right. I mean, if the movie is a critical and commercial success, Ben won't ever have to worry about money ever again. It could open up so many doors for him. The upside is tremendous.
BadAss2961
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I mentioned him.
Zack's a workhorse. Had BvS gotten great reception he'd be down for anything. But as it stands, he's gonna burn out. Dude needs a rest.
Yep. A Snyder Batman film would be the best ever, but I want him to recharge after JL.
I think with all the recent news regarding the cinematic universe chaos at WB, I was reminded of how hard these movies are to make. Just getting them off the ground takes an enormous amount of effort. Now I know why Nolan suggested him for MoS. Zack could get it done.
Batman is the ace up DC's sleeve. People would be real foolish to not realize that:
A. The appeal of directing a Batman exists
B. The allure of being that person to "bring the DCEU to glory". JJ Abrams like.
Not sure you can get worse than SS...
GringoSuave89
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I'm sure there is a way, but I don't think Wonder Woman will be the one to attempt it. Justice League, possibly.
thehypocrite
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That's true. Then again, I'm not too bothered by him not being the director.
BadAss2961
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I doubt they'd fuck with Ben's script to the point that he'd step down. Not him... If that's what was going on, he probably would've stepped off entirely.
Some reflection and a change of heart after Live By Night's performance is what makes the most sense. He all but said it in that Variety quote.
Some reflection and a change of heart after Live By Night's performance is what makes the most sense. He all but said it in that Variety quote.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Isn't Batman known as a holy property to them? Because it's Batman? Like, WB gets nervous with the direction folks try to take him? Whatever. I'm sure is a little bit of everything..sucks that this is how is going.
GringoSuave89
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I can't imagine Ben would do anything crazy with Batman that would make WB/DC worry. I mean, Snyder had Batman kill and that made it in.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Batman has killed forever tho..and I'm more thinking they want it way lighter.
I'm not feeling all that bummed about this news to be honest. The movie is just an idea in someone's mind right now. There's a like a whole set of steps to take before I can start worrying about anything.
As Live By Night proved, Affleck is capable of a dud (kinda unfair cuz I haven't seen it) so a Batman film by him wasn't a guaranteed hit. I'm also not that big on Argo or The Town. Nothing in those movies indicate he has the chops to make a Batman film either. I trust him to give it his all and I like him as an actor and a co-writer but as a director I feel there are other people who can do what he does.
Anyways, I'm happy he's still on board because his Batman and his Bruce have a ton of potential.
As Live By Night proved, Affleck is capable of a dud (kinda unfair cuz I haven't seen it) so a Batman film by him wasn't a guaranteed hit. I'm also not that big on Argo or The Town. Nothing in those movies indicate he has the chops to make a Batman film either. I trust him to give it his all and I like him as an actor and a co-writer but as a director I feel there are other people who can do what he does.
Anyways, I'm happy he's still on board because his Batman and his Bruce have a ton of potential.
Smokey_Run
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I could see Ben wanting something more low key and Warner Bros shitting their pants there isn't enough action in it.
Smokey_Run
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I mean in terms of story. I could see him wanting something more detective driven and Warner Bros is like WHERES THE ACTION THO?!
GringoSuave89
Banned
Possible. But Johns was helping him write the script, and the dude loves his action scenes. The more heroic the better.
Those executives greenlit TDK and BvS: movies that for two hours consists of nothing but dialogue and exposition. They can go without action as long as your movie is compelling.
BadAss2961
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The Batman needs to be grounded. It can have a lot of action and still be grounded.
Just no citywide threat plz. Tired of that.
Just no citywide threat plz. Tired of that.
MugiwaraCole
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DCEU is 0 for 4, and I'm seriously doubting anything changes with Wonder Woman. Is Justice League the first movie where Johns influence will be felt, or do we have to wait until next year?
Wonder Woman will be the first.
MugiwaraCole
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Here's hoping. I'm not confident though.
Um there's only been 3 movies...
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Mistakenly counting Lantern? 😐
I say 1 for 3
MugiwaraCole
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I count Green Lantern. I know it isn't included now, but it was DC's initial attempt at starting a shared movie universe. They wiped the slate clean, obviously, but it happened.
Gordon Shumway
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Oooh. Nah..ain't lumping that turd. I put that one in whatever universe that horrid cat lady lives in..they belong together.
Oh my. I want this. I want this so much.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
First, I was shook. But a few minutes later, I am okay with this. He seems to be burnt out already.
If they wiped the slate clean then MoS is a reboot. Makes no sense to count GL despite the intention behind it. WB wanted the Nolanverse expanded too but we don't count that.
MugiwaraCole
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My intent is to count the movies that DC has tried to use to expand into the DCEU. There are 4 such movies. That's all. *shrug* 0-3, 0-4, shit's disappointing however you look at it.
GringoSuave89
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Only turd to me has been Suicide Squad. MoS and BvS had some really glaring issues, but nothing that makes me think they're bad movies. Not like Suicide Squad....
My work had the blu ray for $10 last week, and I still wouldn't bite. Such a crap movie...
My work had the blu ray for $10 last week, and I still wouldn't bite. Such a crap movie...
beyond_death
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I put MoS on top of 70 or 80% of MCU movies and BvS Ultimate is seriously a top 5 CB movie for me. Only movie I wish turned out different was Suicide Squad but even still I enjoyed it to an extent. BvS theatrical can die in a fire. If I were WB I'd purge all evidence of its existence.
Discotheque
Banned
sounds about right
prolly top 20 for me. best snyder movie imo but there's actually a lot of great comic book movies out there, particularly when you look past just marvel and dc.
that extent was the 5 or 6 minutes involving will smith in the beginning for me. piece of crap
they should just purge the dceu out of existence after justice league. start fresh in a few years, go for a looser connectivity rather than the mcu approach of having almost everything dependent on other films.
DCEU's time has come. Like Green Lantern or Superman Returns before it the films have become a breeding ground for suffering and injustice. It is beyond saving and must be allowed to die.
of course, back on the hype train for batman if somehow matt reeves or villeneuve came onto it. Dawn of the Apes was so good.
I would love him for forever and a day if there is a scene with Batman attacked in prison. The trolling would be too awesome. Snyder could do it but the negative publicity.....
Glass Rebel
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As much as I give DC and WB shit for the DCEU, people still pushing back against Ben's Batman is kinda wack.
Like, that's the interpretation they're going with for this universe and there's nothing inherently wrong with it. Ben did great given the material, too.
Focus on the stuff that was actually shit.
Like, that's the interpretation they're going with for this universe and there's nothing inherently wrong with it. Ben did great given the material, too.
Focus on the stuff that was actually shit.
Warner wants Batman in every DC movies ? I said it in the other thread, but make some kind of "Batman - the brave and the bold" movie universe. No need to really tie the movies, let directors choose what DC characters they want to play with Batman and let them have fun in the sandbox...
And if it's actually good people will see it and like it. See: M. Night and Split. Dude's rep was DESTROYED. He made a decent movie in Visit, and made a good one in Split. People said it was good, great even, and people have seen it. Folks felt skecth af towards it before, then it came out. So does it matter if it gets destroyed before opening day?
Not if it's actually good
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...ts-as-the-batman-movie-director/#498bc7547a7a
That guy posted an article
That guy posted an article
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Really need to check both of those out..and good point..
But The Visit is fucking trash :-|
I don't buy those "Split is Shyamalan's return to form!" claims because of that fucking movie.
Glass Rebel
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Trump is president
Hughes writes something negative about the DCEU
it really is the endtimes
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Who is he again? I forgot..know someone mentioned him in here before.
broncobuster
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DCEU isn't beyond saving. Give them more time.
Seriously, though. DC built its house on crazy in-universe soft-reboot plots. Flashpoint, Crisis on Infinite Earths, etc. I wouldn't be against something like that instead of burning it down and starting over.
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