Dead body found in L.A. hotel's water tank

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I dunno if it's worth it to go to such lengths just to dump a body that will be found by authorities later on. And to move a body upwards would just leave a trail of evidence (in many ways) unless this is some expert.

I'm thinking (if she was high) that she climbed in herself and drowned...
 
out0v0rder said:
i only drink bottled water.
shit that comes from tanks too!
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Even then, be careful. I know someone who would routinely drink the bottled water in the room, then fill it up with tap water before she checks out of the room so they don't charge her card. She does this for clear liquor too if the hotels don't have those pressure sensitive pads in the fridge bar.

Suffice to say, I no longer travel with her.
 
Clockblockers said:
The Cecil Hotel relocated guests in 27 rooms to another hotel on Wednesday, but 11 rooms remained filled, Powell said. Those who chose to remain in the hotel were required to sign a waiver in which they acknowledged being informed of the health risks and were being provided bottled water.

Why would you decide to stay?
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That hotel has something around 500 rooms but only 50-60 guests according to reports going around. More than likely no one heard her plead for help if she was attacked.

hydragonwarrior said:
I dunno if it's worth it to go to such lengths just to dump a body that will be found by authorities later on. And to move a body upwards would just leave a trail of evidence (in many ways) unless this is some expert.

I'm thinking (if she was high) that she climbed in herself and drowned...
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One of the theories going around is that she went up to the roof, got locked out then went into the water tank to get some water but fell in due to it only being 3/4 full.
 
raindoc said:
the door starts to close when she's nowhere near any button. then stops.
you must have some funny delayed elevator controls wherever you're from.
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I don't think I'v ever had a door open/close button work immediately, I feel like it usually takes a couple of seconds to kick in.
 
hydragonwarrior said:
I dunno if it's worth it to go to such lengths just to dump a body that will be found by authorities later on. And to move a body upwards would just leave a trail of evidence (in many ways) unless this is some expert.

I'm thinking (if she was high) that she climbed in herself and drowned...
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they found her naked though. its possible she dumped her clothes.

so weird.
 
They don't have checkouts at motels? Is that just a hotel thing or shouldn't they have wondered why she didn't check out/bring back the key?
What about her stuff? Where is her stuff? When was an investigation opened?
 
Pastry said:
I don't think I'v ever had a door open/close button work immediately, I feel like it usually takes a couple of seconds to kick in.
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actually lots of "close" buttons don't work at all, but "open" do and they don't take seconds. the mechanics in the door need time to react, obviously, but if you choose a floor and immediately press the "open" button - as you suggest - the door shouldn't start to close in the first place, because there's no delay in the signal.
but in this case, the whole show is starting after she's done pressing buttons.

also notice how the door doesn't close again for a very long time (for an elevator, it takes almost a minute) afterwards, even though she pressed multiple buttons (you can see them lit up). someone's stopped that elevator and i doubt that it was her.
 
I have more questions:

To get to the tanks, someone would have to go to the top floor then take a staircase with a locked door and emergency alarm preventing roof access.
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What about the alarm? Why didn't the alarm go off? Or did it? What's the deal with the alarm? Did the worker find foul play with the door? It's a locked door. Who has access to that door. Was anyone else up there or scheduled to be during that day? If the firefighters had to cut a hole to get in with equipment, then it's small but was there room or a possibility to get in by herself without equipment? What's involved in actually getting in there? Where are the hallway videos?

This is fucking creepy as hell. I'm really curious to see the elevator footage but I don't want to get freaked out, and if some of you are freaked out, I can pretty much guarantee I will be also. Ugh.
 
Fantasmo said:
They don't have checkouts at motels? Is that just a hotel thing or shouldn't they have wondered why she didn't check out/bring back the key?
What about her stuff? Where is her stuff? When was an investigation opened?
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If you bought your room using those bidding things through Priceline/Hotwire, you don't have to check out since the rooms are prepaid. You just have to be out of the room by the time housekeeping knocks on the day of your checkout. Anything you consumed from the mini bar or anything you charged to the room is charged to the credit card you used to check in.
 
Fantasmo said:
They don't have checkouts at motels? Is that just a hotel thing or shouldn't they have wondered why she didn't check out/bring back the key?
What about her stuff? Where is her stuff? When was an investigation opened?
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It is actually part of my job to check guest rooms where guests are scheduled to check out but they haven't. If there are items remaining in the room, we automatically extend their stay. If items are gone, we check them out. So she was either extended for a long period of time, or her items were collected by hotel staff after she was announced missing or whatever occurred.

titiklabingapat said:
If you bought your room using those bidding things through Priceline/Hotwire, you don't have to check out since the rooms are prepaid. You just have to be out of the room by the time housekeeping knocks on the day of your checkout. Anything you consumed from the mini bar or anything you charged to the room is charged to the credit card you used to check in.
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Truth is, you don't have to check out anywhere, no matter what the case is. That's why you present a method of payment at check-in. It's an inconvenience to the hotel if you DON'T check out, but there is no penalty. Many people only check out so they can receive their final bill.
 
Man, weird, gross and tragic story. That video of her in the elevator is bizarre to say the least. Whatever happened to her its sounds pretty damn awful. So sad.

Also fucking gross that people were drinking and bathing in her decomposition for two weeks.

And, if those tanks are behind locked doors one would assume if this is indeed murder, that its likely it was by someone who had keys to those doors?
 
titiklabingapat said:
If you bought your room using those bidding things through Priceline/Hotwire, you don't have to check out since the rooms are prepaid. You just have to be out of the room by the time housekeeping knocks on the day of your checkout. Anything you consumed from the mini bar or anything you charged to the room is charged to the credit card you used to check in.
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Ryaaan14 said:
It is actually part of my job to check guest rooms where guests are scheduled to check out but they haven't. If there are items remaining in the room, we automatically extend their stay. If items are gone, we check them out. So she was either extended for a long period of time, or her items were collected by hotel staff after she was announced missing or whatever occurred.
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Thanks guys, few more questions up a couple posts in case you or anyone else didn't see them.
 
ElectricBlue187 said:
she's acting very strange in the video.
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(1) girl enters elevator, for whatever reason chooses a couple of different floors
(2) doors are about to close, but don't, yet noone enters the elevator
(3) hence she sticks her head out to check what's going on, then hides, again for whatever reason

at around .53 she looks outside again and makes a little "jump", as if she was taken by surprise by something/one, soon after that she starts waving her hands around - like i said: talking to someone?

not long after she leaves the camera's view the doors close and the elevator travels to the different floors. in this part you can see that it takes only about 5 secs for the doors to close, whereas earlier on the door was open for almost a minute while she was standing outside (not in the door).
 
It appears she's pressing almost all of the elevator buttons on the left side of the panel(which may bring the elevator to those specified floors). The question is, what is stopping the elevator doors from closing?

Either the elevator malfunctioned, she pushed a stop button, or someone from the outside in the hallway is pressing a button to keep the doors from closing.

Either she was really conversing with someone outside the elevator, was drugged, or was having some emotional breakdown. Her hand movements at around 1:55 in the video just look disturbing.
 
narcosis219 said:
I don't believe so. She was a very smart student apparently. Studied at UBC.

The strange behavior is, well, strange. I didn't know her personally, so I can't comment on anything, but I suspect she was either drugged or drunk.
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So what if she was smart? Smart people can have mental disorders too.
This don't sound like a manic episode but very close to some paranoid psychotic thing.
I feel bad for the girl, real shame that she died this way :/.
 
raindoc said:
actually lots of "close" buttons don't work at all, but "open" do and they don't take seconds. the mechanics in the door need time to react, obviously, but if you choose a floor and immediately press the "open" button - as you suggest - the door shouldn't start to close in the first place, because there's no delay in the signal.
but in this case, the whole show is starting after she's done pressing buttons.

also notice how the door doesn't close again for a very long time (for an elevator, it takes almost a minute) afterwards, even though she pressed multiple buttons (you can see them lit up). someone's stopped that elevator and i doubt that it was her.
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Kind of what I was thinking in the back of my mind, along with the hide and seek theory because of the way she jumped out. The elevator didn't respond to anything it seemed. Close buttons don't work as I heard they were for technicians trouble shooting elevators. Open buttons work though.

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kyoya said:
Her hand movements at around 1:55 in the video just look disturbing.
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I took that as she was trying to trigger the elevator to close, sort of like how you and move your hand in front of automatic doors to open/close, but it does look unusual.
 
There has to be some kind of other security video from inside the hotel (or even outside the hotel) that we're not seeing.
 
kyoya said:
There has to be some kind of other security video from inside the hotel (or even outside the hotel) that we're not seeing.
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If the murderer (if there is one) was someone involved with the hotel, they probably knew the layout of the security cams.
 
Seasoned Badger said:
She hit 7 buttons, the last button being "DOOR HOLD". That's why the door retracted.

picture of it from yelp: http://s3-media1.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/8WRRjdNxuSdkRLmwF7csdQ/l.jpg
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kyoya said:
It appears she's pressing almost all of the elevator buttons on the left side of the panel(which may bring the elevator to those specified floors). The question is, what is stopping the elevator doors from closing?
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she pressed 4 (four) buttons. you can see them lit up in the vid.

bold part is what i'm thinking. the elevator just stops for almost 2 minutes, at one point the doors are open for 50-something seconds without anybody blocking them. they only close after she leaves and she leaves without pushing buttons again, so it couldn't have been her hitting a "stop" button (and switching it off again).
 
kyoya said:
There has to be some kind of other security video from inside the hotel (or even outside the hotel) that we're not seeing.
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It's incredibly rare (or even unheard of) for hotels to place security cameras anywhere besides the lobby and elevators.
 
teruterubozu said:
Downtown seems so manufactured in a weird/sinister way. Like Beijing before the Olympics.
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Nah, as someone whose lived and worked in downtown for 10 years or so (and married to someone who's lived in and around downtown her entire life), its been a fairly organic transition.

THe only thing that gets weird is the over agressiveness of some developers to convert older buildings into higher end residential spaces in areas that aren't quite there at all.
 
StopMakingSense said:
Nah, as someone whose lived and worked in downtown for 10 years or so, its been a fairly organic transition.

THe only thing that gets weird is the over agressiveness of some developers to convert older buildings into higher end residential spaces in areas that aren't quite there at all.
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I used to live there in the 90s. I barely recognize anything there anymore. It's like futuretown or something.
 
Wasn't there a movie about this?

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raindoc said:
she pressed 4 (four) buttons. you can see them lit up in the vid.
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I re-watched it. She hit 5 buttons going downward (only 4 light up) and hit 2 more (possibly those last 2 don't light up). The last button is "DOOR HOLD", which coincidently stops the door from closing.
 
To me it looks like an inside job. If the killer works there, he knows where the cameras are in the elevator, and maybe can get full control of the elevator itself. He also knows how to access the roof without setting off the alarms. hmmm...
 
raindoc said:
she pressed 4 (four) buttons. you can see them lit up in the vid.

bold part is what i'm thinking. the elevator just stops for almost 2 minutes, at one point the doors are open for 50-something seconds without anybody blocking them. they only close after she leaves and she leaves without pushing buttons again, so it couldn't have been her hitting a "stop" button (and switching it off again).
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4 buttons lite up in the center column as she is hitting the buttons but she continues to go down the center column which ends in "Door Hold".

And looking at the elevator panel again I see that there are icons for "Door Open" (bottom left column) and "Door Close" (bottom right column).

The difference between "Door Open" and "Door Hold" could explain why the elevator door remained opened for so long.
 
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