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DEATHLOOP Review Thread

Stuart360

Member
Don't take this the wrong way, but are there any recent mainstream games you really liked a lot? Maybe you have the bar set too high? I remember speaking to you before about two games I absolutely loved and you weren't too keen on them either...
I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. The only negativity i ever see said against ACG is that he 'likes everything', and rarely gives games a poor review.
Luckily for me my tastes tend to fall in line with his.
 

Wizz-Art

Member
Pretty weak bait. But no dualsense for you :p
Yeah pretty weak, because it wasn't bait...

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I don't think you understand the concept of objectivity.
Oh I do. Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Spiderman are all objectively better than The Medium, which at present moment is the only true next gen game on Xbox. And those are only the TRUE next gen games, nvm the upgraded games like Tsushima and FF7.

Its weird as fuck you wanna pretend Xbox is on par with PS5 at the moment, but do you and enjoy Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2 lmao
 

BLAUcopter

Gold Member
Some first impressions....

Word of advice, play it in performance mode. The visual mode does not feel stable at all.

So far I've had a freeze once which meant I had to force quit the game (PS5)

There was an instance after you leave the apartment where the frame rate just tanked to zero multiple times while I was trying to exit the level.

This was all in the first hour and tarnished what was otherwise a pretty good experience.

Graphics and gameplay feel great so far. Only downside I'd give the graphics is that they appear too bright, like the black level or gamma is set wrong.

Lots if text tutorials.

Bethesda login, ugh.

Other than that, I'm really looking forward to getting deep on this. Looks like a great sandbox with lots to do.
 
interesting to see an outlier opinion

Wondering who to trust. This game is too polarizing. The reviews don’t line up with what I’ve seen but they’re too high to ignore
Matty was also unimpressed. I wonder if the biggest Arkane fans see it as inferior to their previous works. Maybe the accessible nature of the game is popular with the masses?
 
Some first impressions....

Word of advice, play it in performance mode. The visual mode does not feel stable at all.

So far I've had a freeze once which meant I had to force quit the game (PS5)

There was an instance after you leave the apartment where the frame rate just tanked to zero multiple times while I was trying to exit the level.

This was all in the first hour and tarnished what was otherwise a pretty good experience.

Graphics and gameplay feel great so far. Only downside I'd give the graphics is that they appear too bright, like the black level or gamma is set wrong.

Lots if text tutorials.

Bethesda login, ugh.

Other than that, I'm really looking forward to getting deep on this. Looks like a great sandbox with lots to do.

how is the DualSense?
 
You're really going to argue Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2 make Xbox worthy competition at the present moment. Even though one is literally a flight simulator as the title suggests, and Psychonauts 2 is not a real "next gen" game and is on PS5 as well.

Man, some of you Xbox guys just refuse to let it go. PS5 is objectively better right now. There is no arguing it, and even trying shows weird delusion.
Psychonauts 2 is the Game of the Year. Game Pass is worth it just for that game alone.
 

Karak

Member
Matty was also unimpressed. I wonder if the biggest Arkane fans see it as inferior to their previous works. Maybe the accessible nature of the game is popular with the masses?
I also can't speak to that as I am pretty vocal in that I am not an Arkane fan. I am a Prey fan but was not as explosive in my like of either Dishonored Game at all.

Someone asked about duelsense. It works ok, its not much. Pressure pull on guns and some shakes for location stuff as well as constant footfall stuff. Not game changing but less annoying than some other titles.
 
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Bryank75

Banned
My review for ACG



I rated it a Wait. Pretty ok, and loved the way the story changed around good music overall and voices. But lack of much difficulty at all, low number of weapons, low number of skills, barebones upgrade systems, and poor AI made it very hard to recommend. As I said in the review when I recorded it yesterday. I can see people who want an easier game likening it, because it is a power fantasy in that way, but playing a game this long, lack of any real risk caused me to sort of turn off at a rest stop and getting back on was more and more difficult. If it had more powers or more enemy types and better ai then it may have been more engaging. I was let down also by the Visionaries being nothing more than normal characters in the game with one Slab power. So going against them is like...almost shockingly casual.


Mhm, sounds about right.
 

Stuart360

Member
LOL and I am less than 50% critic recommends. So even that is woefully wrong
Hey it wasnt meant as a criticism, and its good to give your true feeling about games and be positive about most games.
Like i said, i RARELY dissagree with one of your reviews.
 
Psychonauts 2 is the Game of the Year. Game Pass is worth it just for that game alone.
Oh OK because you subjectively think a game that is also on PS5 and not even a true next gen game is GOTY, that means PS5 isn't objectively better at the moment despite having R&C, Returnal, Spiderman, and amazing next gen upgrades to games like Tsushima and FF7.

Who was the person who didn't understand objectivity again? Me?!
 
Oh OK because you subjectively think a game that is also on PS5 and not even a true next gen game is GOTY, that means PS5 isn't objectively better at the moment despite having R&C, Returnal, Spiderman, and amazing next gen upgrades to games like Tsushima and FF7.

Who was the person who didn't understand objectivity again? Me?!
It's 1440p 120z with fast load times and HDR on Series X. Definitely worth the upgrade.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
Oh I do. Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Spiderman are all objectively better than The Medium, which at present moment is the only true next gen game on Xbox. And those are only the TRUE next gen games, nvm the upgraded games like Tsushima and FF7.

Its weird as fuck you wanna pretend Xbox is on par with PS5 at the moment, but do you and enjoy Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2 lmao
When did I ever say Xbox is on par with PS5 at the moment? I was just pointing out that your opinions on the 'better' console are subjective and not objective.
 

Zathalus

Member
You're really going to argue Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2 make Xbox worthy competition at the present moment. Even though one is literally a flight simulator as the title suggests, and Psychonauts 2 is not a real "next gen" game and is on PS5 as well.

Man, some of you Xbox guys just refuse to let it go. PS5 is objectively better right now. There is no arguing it, and even trying shows weird delusion.
No, I'm arguing that Gamepass makes it worthy competition right now. Do I think that PS5 has better exclusives at the moment? Yes. Do I believe that gap is going to narrow by the end of the year? Also yes.

Lastly, lol on the 'Xbox Guys' comment. I've bought Demon Souls, Sackboy, Spider-Man Remastered, Miles Morales, Returnal, F.I.S.T., and Ratchet and Clank. I'm also picking up Horizon: Forbidden West day one.

It's OK to enjoy both.
 
It's 1440p 120z with fast load times and HDR on Series X. Definitely worth the upgrade.
Huh? Are you really joining the "Xbox is on par with PS5 at the moment cause despite all the acclaimed next gen games you listed PS5 has atm that Xbox doesn't, I have better specs on Psychonauts 2" argument?

Good God lol yall will stretch as far as you have to to make it seem like Xbox is currently on par w PS5
 

Karak

Member
Hey it wasnt meant as a criticism, and its good to give your true feeling about games and be positive about most games.
Like i said, i RARELY dissagree with one of your reviews.
Oh lol no worries I didn't think you were at all. I was just laughing that in a way generalizations are everywhere. IN group tracking of review scores, in collective ideas of a game reviewer. Its literally the thing we fight against and then when instances happen where something different does pop up, people lose their shit over that. Its like bitching that your diamond shoes are too tight.
It's a weird world.
We were laughing in the discord about a comment in the review stating "You are the best independent reviewer man I love that you do things your own way. Have you thought about splash cards like IGN?" Which just by the sheer irony of it, is funny.

The nice thing is, we have so many games. Tales I adored, Psyconaughts was incredible, and so many others. So even if you sort of like this or hate it, no one has a small number of games they can play.
 
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Ozriel

M$FT
You're really going to argue Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2 make Xbox worthy competition at the present moment. Even though one is literally a flight simulator as the title suggests, and Psychonauts 2 is not a real "next gen" game and is on PS5 as well.

Man, some of you Xbox guys just refuse to let it go. PS5 is objectively better right now. There is no arguing it, and even trying shows weird delusion.

The people you’ve been jeering at have both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. They get the best of both worlds. As do I.
you clearly don’t.
This shit you’re doing feels like the height of brokedom, tbh. Eww.
 

Stuart360

Member
Oh OK because you subjectively think a game that is also on PS5 and not even a true next gen game is GOTY, that means PS5 isn't objectively better at the moment despite having R&C, Returnal, Spiderman, and amazing next gen upgrades to games like Tsushima and FF7.

Who was the person who didn't understand objectivity again? Me?!
Honestly i'd reel in your fanboyism a bit if i were you, it wont go well in the long run on here, trust me.
 
No, I'm arguing that Gamepass makes it worthy competition right now. Do I think that PS5 has better exclusives at the moment? Yes. Do I believe that gap is going to narrow by the end of the year? Also yes.

Lastly, lol on the 'Xbox Guys' comment. I've bought Demon Souls, Sackboy, Spider-Man Remastered, Miles Morales, Returnal, F.I.S.T., and Ratchet and Clank. I'm also picking up Horizon: Forbidden West day one.

It's OK to enjoy both.
lol OK if you choose to believe Gamepass makes Xbox worthy competition present day despite The Medium being the only next gen game compared to DS, Spiderman, R&C, Returnal, and the upgrades to amazing games like Tsushima and FF7 then you go for it bud
 

Zathalus

Member
Actually I could buy a PS5 and the game but why would I if I have loads of games to play and can wait till next year when it drops on Game Pass and I can play it on my XSX?
Well, the PS5 has a lot more games then just this one. You can play those as well. But if XSX is your 'main' then perhaps wait until after Horizon: Forbidden West lands. It will have a number of great games to play then. Demon Souls, Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, and Miles Morales are all really good.
 
Honestly i'd reel in your fanboyism a bit if i were you, it wont go well in the long run on here, trust me.
Ahhh yes resort to "fanboy" comment. Ironic twist of fate when all i'm doing is pointing out the delusion of certain fanboys in here who have said things like "Xbox is winning we get it on Gamepass in a year" and "We have Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2, Xbox is on par with PS5 atm". But sure, arguing against those things makes me the fanboy loll
 

Stuart360

Member
Ahhh yes resort to "fanboy" comment. Ironic twist of fate when all i'm doing is pointing out the delusion of certain fanboys in here who have said things like "Xbox is winning we get it on Gamepass in a year" and "We have Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2, Xbox is on par with PS5 atm". But sure, arguing against those things makes me the fanboy loll
Dude i'm trying to help.
 

John Wick

Member
Where are all the dickheads shitting on this game?
You know who you were complaining everytime Sony showed it off on one of their State of Plays. Looks like crow gonna be served. Especially the retards who looked down on this game just because MS bought the developer. Thank you Arkane
 
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The people you’ve been jeering at have both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. They get the best of both worlds. As do I.
you clearly don’t.
This shit you’re doing feels like the height of brokedom, tbh. Eww.
So you're assuming now everyone who has said dumb shit like "Xbox winning we get it on Gamepass in a year" has both.

And you're also assuming claiming to have both makes it ok to say dumb things like "Xbox is on par w PS5 rn, we have Flight Simulator"

Oooook
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
Ahhh yes resort to "fanboy" comment. Ironic twist of fate when all i'm doing is pointing out the delusion of certain fanboys in here who have said things like "Xbox is winning we get it on Gamepass in a year" and "We have Flight Simulator and Psychonauts 2, Xbox is on par with PS5 atm". But sure, arguing against those things makes me the fanboy loll
That time again;

 
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Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
You know, it kinda sucks that reviews are just going to be near impossible to fully trust these days in our current politicized climate. Even suggesting that this is the case is scummy, because there's no direct proof - and it undermines people's ability to think whatever they want. But we know Arkane was one of the first to work with Anita Sarkessian and the main cast of the game is definitely considered "progressive" - which is terrible, because it should be completely non-political to include whatever characters you want. But in the context of their past work with popular political figures in gaming, and the kind of reactions to characters that you see like in Project Eve being overwhelmingly negative among the journalist class - there's just no way to know if the scores get a bit inflated or deflated due to political reasons. Bayonetta 2 got knocked several points for its character at Polygon, while stuff like Gone Home gets a 10. The whole well is just poisoned because even suggesting this implies that I'm the one trying to bias everyone else, even though there's lots of evidence of this happening in the past - currently there is literally zero proof this is the case.

Really all you can do is look at the specific people reviewing and trust who you want.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
So you're assuming now everyone who has said dumb shit like "Xbox winning we get it on Gamepass in a year" has both.

And you're also assuming claiming to have both makes it ok to say dumb things like "Xbox is on par w PS5 rn, we have Flight Simulator"

Oooook
It's almost as if people are allowed their own opinions on what games they like. How dare such a concept be discussed in a game review thread.
 

Zathalus

Member
lol OK if you choose to believe Gamepass makes Xbox worthy competition present day despite The Medium being the only next gen game compared to DS, Spiderman, R&C, Returnal, and the upgrades to amazing games like Tsushima and FF7 then you go for it bud
You continue to ignore Flight Simulator, which is a great experience for some, and I've probably spent 30-40 hours in. It's also the most 'next-gen' of any game right now.

And Gamepass is a worthy competitor, because I get a large number of games to play for a cheap monthly sub.

Once again, and I do not know how much clearer I can make this, PS5 has the better exclusives right now.
 

Wizz-Art

Member
Well, the PS5 has a lot more games then just this one. You can play those as well. But if XSX is your 'main' then perhaps wait until after Horizon: Forbidden West lands. It will have a number of great games to play then. Demon Souls, Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, and Miles Morales are all really good.

I made a promise to myself to not buy a Playstation console anymore untill they offer PS3 BC and I'm sticking with it as I'm Xbox only since last gen and don't feel I'm missing out since GT was the only PS exclusive I was very into but nowadays Forza Motorsports and Forza Horizon have taken over that place GT once had for me.
 

catvonpee

Member
I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. The only negativity i ever see said against ACG is that he 'likes everything', and rarely gives games a poor review.
Luckily for me my tastes tend to fall in line with his.
I meant what I asked in the kindest way possible. Like I was just wondering what is a good game to him.
 

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Looks to much like dishonor for me to be interested. Not a fan of stealth games in general as well.

Congrats on MS for having one of the better Ps5 games this year at lest I guess..
 

Zathalus

Member
I made a promise to myself to not buy a Playstation console anymore untill they offer PS3 BC and I'm sticking with it as I'm Xbox only since last gen and don't feel I'm missing out since GT was the only PS exclusive I was very into but nowadays Forza Motorsports and Forza Horizon have taken over that place GT once had for me.
Each to their own, but the PS4 generation had some really great exclusive games on it.
 
The fact people are trying to give MS credit for this is the most embarrassing thing I've seen in a long while. How fucking desperate are you? My God.
It's actually pretty wild. For some ppl on this forum, the bias is so deeply rooted that they don't even realize how bias they are, or have become.

"Just remember, none of this is Jim Ryan. All of these games and deals were made years before him. He has nothing to do with this"
"Great job by Phil and MS. Another great game. Their 1st party team delivers! This is the work they've been doing..."

It's Arkane, they have been putting out solid solid games. Not always my style of games, but they've always been solid and it looks like this game is a breakthrough for them.

OT: Great to see that Arkane is hitting this out the park! Arkane's games have never really been for me, but the art direction and theming of this game is so good... so I had to do it. Throwing some dough at Arkane while I still can LOL Xbox go them a quality studio! If this game hits with me... I might have to pick up an Xbox down the line, or finally build a PC.
 
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