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The tech experts at Digital Foundry recently had the chance to check out the game running on Sony's soon-to-be-released mid-generation system. They revealed that it features a new Pro display mode that runs at what seems like 4K resolution and 60 FPS. The image looks very detailed but a little soft, but it's not clear if this is due to PSSR upscaling or anything else, as Digital Foundry could not confirm any details regarding the resolution.



What was confirmed, however, is that Demon's Souls on PlayStation 5 Pro features a new visual feature, a new contact shadow system. This system is similar to the screen space shadows system employed on base PlayStation 5, which is mostly noticeable in areas with rocks, but shows more fine shadow details that look quite good. Despite the lack of anything else, which is unsurprising considering the game will be four years old at the time the PS5 Pro launches, Digital Foundry has no doubt that Demon's Souls looks substantially better on the upcoming console.

Demon's Souls Looks Substantially Better on PlayStation 5 Pro; New Visual Feature Confirmed

One of the best looking games released in the current console generation, Demon's Souls, looks substantially better on PlayStation 5 Pro

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[808mate]

Still one of the best looking games this gen.

 

[AngelMuffin]

Was looking for a reason to play through this again.

 

[Mr Hyde]

It looks exactly the same unless you zoom in 400%. Pointless upgrade since Demon's Souls already looked and played fantastic on base PS5.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

I’m down for another run through. Still a few trophies for the platinum.

 

[hemo memo]

"Substantially Better"

 

[Damigos]

Better, yes. The Substantially part, nah

 

[XXL]

Demon Souls is actually one of the least substantial upgrades AFAIK.

It was already 1440p 60fps with great IQ. Now it's 4K 60fps with great IQ. Lol.

I've been thinking about downloading it and playing it again before the Pro comes out for this reason.

 

[Deerock71]

 

[mayham2199]

Nice just another pro game I can add to my list. I started it but dropped it after the first boss because I just wasn't feeling anymore dark souls at that point.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Not really new info:



Original Performance (1440p60) and Cinematic (2160p30) modes still options
Pro mode: 4K-like image quality at 60fps
Pro mode: extra tessellation density like cinematic mode
Pro mode: additional micro-shadowing detail that helps reveal the fine bumps in stones, bricks etc.

The original PS5 release already had such high geometry density that using traditional shadow maps for everything, down to the finest details just bogged performance. Instead they use more advanced forms of screen-space directional occlusion (SSDO) and every light source casts these shadows.

 

[Zacfoldor]

This game was such a looker when it came out I'm beyond stoked it is going to look even better. Wow. Definitely looking forward to a new run one day.

You know what this makes me think? Bloodborne 2 by Bluepoint. There I said it. If it comes true I was the first to connect the dots to work on this engine also being upgraded for a new game BB2.

What if we got Demon's Souls 2 by Bluepoint and BB remake by another studio?

 

[scalman]

well pc people would buy new gpu just to have those upgrades so yh... still i bought used ps4 pro for like 280 euros back then. now og ps5 cost like 300 at least used. digital. so maybe no not now. i still dont have ps5 either so maybe ps5 og prices will drop some
i like DF too but they testing games and do reviews for visuals for graphics...anf thats never goal for me so like thats good for views.. for numbers on youtube sure
not important for game itself. shame peaople just sold they souls for views. and became drama queens

 

[Sleepwalker]

I bought this with my PS5 and never played it, so maybe with the Pro I will. (probably not lol)

 

[rickybooby87]

 

[XXL]

I bought this with my PS5 and never played it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

But will it beat the shadows displayed on PC:

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It looks exactly the same unless you zoom in 400%. Pointless upgrade since Demon's Souls already looked and played fantastic on base PS5.

No it doesn’t

 

[Hrk69]

You know what this makes me think? Bloodborne 2 by Bluepoint. There I said it.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

This is an old ass video, just recut for the DeSo part...

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

The game already looks incredible. Substantially better? No

 

[diffusionx]

time for a remaster, Herman

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Demon's Souls is one of the best looking games I've played. ...not sure I'd want to make time to play it again though. Even if it does have more fine shadow detail that looks "quite good."

 

[Elbereth]

Now Do Returnal…

One of the best games of this gen.

 

[Shin-Ra]

https://ubm-twvideo01.s3.amazonaws.com/o1/vault/GDC+2021/Bluepoint+GDC21.pdf

Covers Bluepoint’s evolution of compute-based tessellation and global illumination between Shadow of the Colossus and Demon’s Souls. Also screen space shadows.

 

[rm082e]

But will it beat the shadows displayed on PC:

 

[Mr Hyde]

No it doesn’t

Yes it does

 

[analog_future]

It looks exactly the same unless you zoom in 400%. Pointless upgrade since Demon's Souls already looked and played fantastic on base PS5.

You played it on PS5 Pro?

 

[scalman]

but like 800 euros. i can have rtx 4060 laptop for like 900 here. and rtx 4070 laptop for like 1.200 . maybe when price drops on used ones
and they right ablut the price . all parts cost more now. but .... how many games are like life exclusive to consoles ?

 

[Shin-Ra]

It looks exactly the same unless you zoom in 400%. Pointless upgrade since Demon's Souls already looked and played fantastic on base PS5.

‘Exactly the same’

 

[AJUMP23]

The claims of a Lunatic.

 

[Mr Hyde]

You played it on PS5 Pro?

Yes, I have. I was invited to the hands on preview that Sony arranged for journos but was thrown out when I wanted to zoom in 400% because I couldn't tell any difference.

 

[Diseased Yak]

Was looking for a reason to play through this again.

Same here. Even if it didn't improve much at all I was already planning on Demon's Souls being one of, if not the, first games fired up when I get the Pro.

 

[Solarstrike]

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

No it doesn’t

James lets agree that this game didn't quite need the PS5 Pro enhancement. The game looked great in it's performance mode on base PS5 since day one. The added clarity isn't discernible on the Pro for this game and that's exactly what Digital Foundry is echoing in their analysis. It's nice to have but wasn't needed compared to the other games that are benefitting from the Pro upgrades.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Now Do Returnal…

One of the best games of this gen.

Now this game is sorely needing some 4K PSSR image quality

 

[Vick]

Just to provide a bit of context, this:

Is what's now supposed to be substantially better.

But I mean it's cool, there's only really so much you can do when your game already looks and runs like Demon's Souls.

 

[Shin-Ra]

The original PS5 release used temporal upsampling like SotC to try and maximise its 1440p60 input but there was still an obvious upgrade in spatial image quality between the two modes.

 

[yogaflame]

It already looks great on base ps5.I hope the pro version PSSR ML will add Ray tracing to the game.

 

[Mister Wolf]

It's just shadows.

 

[rubik's dude]

Lmao at all the gaslighting for this mid-gen refresh.

Nothing's going to look or run "substantially" better until next gen. "Marginally" doesn't have the same exciting ring to it though, even if it is the more accurate word to use.

 

[Cornbread78]

Does it have an easy mode yet?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

James lets agree that this game didn't quite need the PS5 Pro enhancement. The game looked great in it's performance mode on base PS5 since day one. The added clarity isn't discernible on the Pro for this game and that's exactly what Digital Foundry is echoing in their analysis. It's nice to have but wasn't needed compared to the other games that are benefitting from the Pro upgrades.

The game looked a lot softer in performance mode, I actually played through it in fidelity as a result

DF is not saying it’s not discernible at all even if the performance mode was decent

 

[rm082e]

As a PC player who likes to play at max settings (1440), shadows are usually the least interesting visual feature once you get above medium quality. With AC and FarCry games in particular, I usually find the top options look different from each other, but not better. Meanwhile they can be a big load on the GPU.

I haven't seen Demon's Souls new shadows (I think that bit at the end of the DF video was the old shadows, right?), but that's probably not going to be something most players would even notice.

 

[Ebrietas]

DeS is still the most next generation looking game. It's the whole reason I bought a PS5.

 

[Skifi28]

Was looking for a reason to play through this again.

Time to also get that platinum I guess.

 

[StylishMGTOW]

I'll play it once they remove the body types, insert the original soundtrack from the PS3 OG, and change the designs of the enemies.

Otherwise,

Pathetic excuse for a remake.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Does it have an easy mode yet?

Make yourself a strong magic/projectile build and grab the Crescent Falchion sword.

 

[kevboard]

The game looked a lot softer in performance mode, I actually played through it in fidelity as a result

what in the actual fuck?
That has to be some kind of masochism kink. the 30fps mode in that game specifically is absolutely horrible

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

what in the actual fuck?
That has to be some kind of masochism kink. the 30fps mode in that game specifically is absolutely horrible

Why is it horrible? Its not a fast paced game