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Denis Dyack in 1up yours. NeoGAF is "hurting society," justifies having it shut down
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fistfulofmetal
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All of his points are the exact reasons I was attracted to Gaf in the first place.
A casual message board where not everyone is worried about hurting each others feelings. God forbid someone reads an insult and is butthurt over it.
The mod called someone stupid?! OH GOD!!!
Please.
I paid full price for The Twin Snakes, can I play too?
A casual message board where not everyone is worried about hurting each others feelings. God forbid someone reads an insult and is butthurt over it.
The mod called someone stupid?! OH GOD!!!
Please.
Dan said:
I paid full price for The Twin Snakes, can I play too?
here's the whole fucking problem with this podcast: humor doesn't even exist here. when dyack asks why gafers are permitted to make fun of him, shane answers 'because they think it's funny.' dyack echoes him disgustedly: 'because they think it's funny.' and then more stuff about reciprocity and responsibility and accountability. wait a minute: on my planet, humor is a positive value, and 'because they think it's funny' should have been the triumphant answer that ended the debate, blew a wonderful breath of clean air into the 1up yours recording studio, and caused denis dyack to repent. besides, gaf's brand of humor is actually very tame -- check out 4chan sometime. gaf can only offend the pathogically humorless. denis dyack is so pathologically humorless that he impairs other people's senses of humor, the result is the most ridiculous thing i've ever listened to, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. especially shane
heliosRAzi
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Spoo said:
The LA LI LU LE LO?!
I said this when DD made his for & against thread:
Denis deserves all the loss of sales, gifs and ridicule that he is getting on all forums, video comment post and blogs all over the internet.
His behaviour has been appalling and is disgraceful to all the hard working people at Silicon Knights.
Denis deserves all the loss of sales, gifs and ridicule that he is getting on all forums, video comment post and blogs all over the internet.
His behaviour has been appalling and is disgraceful to all the hard working people at Silicon Knights.
HallwayGiant
Member
Seriously, I turned it off after about 15 minutes of it, not because of the GAF hate, (because, really...) but because at the end of the day it just comes off as nagging and annoying and I really don't feel like listening to that. It ruined a otherwise fine podcast. :/fistfulofmetal said:
I don't get this, you can't judge a game based on what you haven't played, yet you're praying those same people who are judging a game based on what they haven't played to buy the full game with their own money.
What's worse is that sometimes Demoes aren't an accurate enough representation on wether the full game is good or not, what a vicious cycle.
What's worse is that sometimes Demoes aren't an accurate enough representation on wether the full game is good or not, what a vicious cycle.
Count Dookkake
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just tray said:
GAF: For you, the day GAF pwned you was the most important day of your life. But for GAF... it was Friday.
robor
Member
Lets get one thing straight. He has made a point in that this forum has some poor management, but then again it is GAF, it is massive, it's kinda hard to manage all that shit. What I don't understand is the fact that he believes that people are stupid enough to return to a place that is "damaging to society and the gaming industry". What, do we need HIM to father us and tell us the path of righteousness? Or maybe people are, ya know INDEPENDENT of their own thoughts and actions perhaps? If this forum is so damaging to those who believe in this notion then those people will have the guts and the will power to leave and never return. It's as simple as that. Why does Denis care so much anyway? Other developers have had their fair share of gif parodies and scrutinies which they've yet to complain about.
I feel it shows a weakness in this man and it saddens me because I know he's passionate about what he does, it's just sometimes he goes about it the wrong way, especially on GAF.
I feel it shows a weakness in this man and it saddens me because I know he's passionate about what he does, it's just sometimes he goes about it the wrong way, especially on GAF.
Mario said:
:lol I like this post.
There are quite a few developers on this forum, probably many of them in disguise. But Ill take Mario and Gazunta as good examples.
1. They dont make games that have the internet hyped up (MGS4/Halo/GTA style)
2. They dont make games that are unjustly hyped up (Too Human, Lair)
but
3. What they do make are games that are either entertaining or for a broader market that don't lend themselves to big pre-release hype or backlash. I enjoyed Gripshift and I know lots of people who's kids loved Spyro, for example.
These two people are the perfect example of how to be a developer, post on a forum and not be a dick-waving arsehole about it a la Dyack. Communicate in a positive way about your game, not be combatitve or dismissive of criticisms, and generally be nice. I think Ryan Payton was another good example.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
:lol :lol :lolCount Dookkake said:
Hypno Funk
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Question, could you guys play Too Human now without a sub-conscious thought about this whole debacle being in the back of your head throughout the game?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
actually pretty accurate.ntropy said:
POWERSPHERE
Member
He seems completely self obsessed and massively insecure, why else would you Duke Nukem yourself into irrelevance.
rollingstart
Banned
Hypno Funk said:
Yep.
I still really like Blood Omen and none of this daft behavior from Dyack is going to make me like the games any less.
Steroyd said:
While true, they at least give you a taste of what the game is like. For example, if you don't enjoy the combat in the Too Human demo, that won't change in the final game.
fistfulofmetal
Banned
Hypno Funk said:
If I decide to Gamefly it, i think I'll get to the part from the gif I saw a page or two back and send the game back.
That's all I really want to see.
Hypno Funk said:
I hope so, a good game is a good game and I do want to like the game itself. But I has such distaste towards Dyack's idiocy that it's probably tainted the game for me. But, from what I've seen it looks to be turd, with the real Diablo 3 coming, I think I can wait for the real deal instead of playing Dyack's latest abortion, if it does end up that bad.
BigBlackGamer
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I really don't know what I just listened too. The first 2 segments I felt right at home....listening to the podcast just browsing the internet. Had a pepsi in my hand, nick at night on the tube, had a little skype chat going with some friends. Then the third segment happened and I felt like my house caved into the depths of hell. Yet I didnt bother to question why I was in hell I just kept on doing my regular routine.
Sometimes simple is best. All that just to say GAF is mis-managed and should be closed down. Alright. I'm digging Too Human and im picking it up day one but that shit was a little to much for me. In the end I had no idea what you were actually talking about and at the same I did know.
When the podcast was over all that shit you said just left my brain. Personally I don't care about what you do in your spare time. I like your game and everything I've seen so count me in day one. Personally I think people pay far too much attention to people like you. You are apart of a big team that makes a game. I dont give a fuck about your opinion in the context of if you say something I dont like I would consider not buying your game.
Sometimes simple is best. All that just to say GAF is mis-managed and should be closed down. Alright. I'm digging Too Human and im picking it up day one but that shit was a little to much for me. In the end I had no idea what you were actually talking about and at the same I did know.
When the podcast was over all that shit you said just left my brain. Personally I don't care about what you do in your spare time. I like your game and everything I've seen so count me in day one. Personally I think people pay far too much attention to people like you. You are apart of a big team that makes a game. I dont give a fuck about your opinion in the context of if you say something I dont like I would consider not buying your game.
Sushen
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If Denis spends less time complaining, nagging, whining and moaning about other peoples' opinions, probably Too Human won't take 10 years to make. 
Basically, he's calling for censorship on ideas that he doesn't like. I started out neutral about Too Human, and I'm in a state where I won't touch the game with 10 feet pole thanks to his rather annoying personality that did a great diservice to the game.
Basically, he's calling for censorship on ideas that he doesn't like. I started out neutral about Too Human, and I'm in a state where I won't touch the game with 10 feet pole thanks to his rather annoying personality that did a great diservice to the game.kame-sennin
Member
When Lair started getting bad reviews, the Factor 5 guys tried to argue with gamers and reviewers, and it only made things worse. They eventually shut up about it, and so did the rest of the internet. Their reputation may have been hurt a bit, but if their next game is good, they'll totally bounce back. The lesson to be learned here is, when you're in a hole, stop digging. I'm not even interested in Too Human (don't have an Xbox), but why is this guy still talking? The game is going to come out and it will either sell or it won't. And it'll either be popular... or it won't. Picking fights with anonymous jokesters on the internet is not helping. This guy needs to just lay low and let this crap blow over instead doing everything in his power to make it worse.
"No, see, I was just TESTING you guys. So now YOU'RE the stupid ones"
It's a pretty standard reaction to being trolled on an internet forum. Usually the person is 14 and doesn't go straight to the press about it, especially for someone who attacked the press when they said his preview build wasn't any good.
Dennis, it's the internet. People are allowed to make fun of you without getting shut down (for example: bad video game that you wasted 10 years of your life on, ugly, etc)
In fact, I think now that you've performed your "grand social experiment" you may find youreself being made fun of even more! Perhaps even MORE than that when your awful game is released to retails like so many locusts onto Egypt.
It's a pretty standard reaction to being trolled on an internet forum. Usually the person is 14 and doesn't go straight to the press about it, especially for someone who attacked the press when they said his preview build wasn't any good.
Dennis, it's the internet. People are allowed to make fun of you without getting shut down (for example: bad video game that you wasted 10 years of your life on, ugly, etc)
In fact, I think now that you've performed your "grand social experiment" you may find youreself being made fun of even more! Perhaps even MORE than that when your awful game is released to retails like so many locusts onto Egypt.
jump_button
Banned
well they is alot of hate on NeoGAF but alot of love for good games
but some ppl need to lean to take a joke
but some ppl need to lean to take a joke
Seriously, the one thing I don't get:
So here's Denis, asking everyone to be nice and courtious to each other. Cool, how about this idea: You first, Denis. If you're cool, nice, and let shit flung at you slide off, you'll find it's easy to change perspectives to your liking.
If you're a big floppy penis who makes threads just to get a 'reaction', then, fuck that. The reaction is deserved.
It's socially irresponsible -- yeah, I said that just now -- to except other people to do a job you want done. Start it youself; make it happen. You just might get somewhere. Not on this forum, though, you la li lu le lo'd that up.
So here's Denis, asking everyone to be nice and courtious to each other. Cool, how about this idea: You first, Denis. If you're cool, nice, and let shit flung at you slide off, you'll find it's easy to change perspectives to your liking.
If you're a big floppy penis who makes threads just to get a 'reaction', then, fuck that. The reaction is deserved.
It's socially irresponsible -- yeah, I said that just now -- to except other people to do a job you want done. Start it youself; make it happen. You just might get somewhere. Not on this forum, though, you la li lu le lo'd that up.
nelsonroyale
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